damianhucker1 wrote:Why delete the whole thread , its not as if any particular promotor can complain as it was 100% farcical and cant be denied , ok delete any posts that say it was a Con job as in bribed Timekeeper etc as thats potentially slanderous , but why the entire thread .
Complete farce , Shane was robbed , simple as that .
It wasn't deleted - I moved it until it could be cleaned up.
Certain people would absolutely f**king love it if this forum was closed down and some posters on here are helping them get their wish.
What you trying to say ?????
When i wrote that comment the thread wasnt there , so as far as forum menmbers were concerned it had been deleted .
Fair enough you reason makes sense but why you quoting me ?
Kind of makes me think your pointing the finger in my direction .
Enzos punch resistance has completely gone, never seen a reply of the shot that knocked him all over the place in the first round but when watching it live it didn't seem like that big a shot or didn't seem to hit him flush, anyone got a link to it
not seen the fight yet (was out last night) but McPhilbin was robbed of the chance to finish a floored enzo because the timekeeper hit the bell 47 seconds early??
what the f...
thats an absolute farce. was mcphilbin aware the round ended too short?
desperados wrote:not seen the fight yet (was out last night) but McPhilbin was robbed of the chance to finish a floored enzo because the timekeeper hit the bell 47 seconds early??
what the f...
thats an absolute farce. was mcphilbin aware the round ended too short?
He wasnt aware at the time , He was made aware after the fight .
desperados wrote:not seen the fight yet (was out last night) but McPhilbin was robbed of the chance to finish a floored enzo because the timekeeper hit the bell 47 seconds early??
what the f...
thats an absolute farce. was mcphilbin aware the round ended too short?
He wasnt aware at the time , He was made aware after the fight .
he must have been pissed off - but i wonder what his reaction would have been if he had known at the time. for example if the venue had a big screen with a 3 minute clock counting down on a screen in view of the fighters & their corner.
desperados wrote:not seen the fight yet (was out last night) but McPhilbin was robbed of the chance to finish a floored enzo because the timekeeper hit the bell 47 seconds early??
what the f...
thats an absolute farce. was mcphilbin aware the round ended too short?
He wasnt aware at the time , He was made aware after the fight .
he must have been pissed off - but i wonder what his reaction would have been if he had known at the time. for example if the venue had a big screen with a 3 minute clock counting down on a screen in view of the fighters & their corner.
He wasnt p*ssed off last night at all(on tv),he was just pleased to share the ring with his hero
damianhucker1 wrote:
He wasnt aware at the time , He was made aware after the fight .
he must have been pissed off - but i wonder what his reaction would have been if he had known at the time. for example if the venue had a big screen with a 3 minute clock counting down on a screen in view of the fighters & their corner.
He wasnt p*ssed off last night at all(on tv),he was just pleased to share the ring with his hero
I think he will pretty annoyed when he watches it back
desperados wrote:
he must have been pissed off - but i wonder what his reaction would have been if he had known at the time. for example if the venue had a big screen with a 3 minute clock counting down on a screen in view of the fighters & their corner.
He wasnt p*ssed off last night at all(on tv),he was just pleased to share the ring with his hero
I think he will pretty annoyed when he watches it back
Im sure he will be when he comes round from his well earned 12 day bender
damianhucker1 wrote:Why delete the whole thread , its not as if any particular promotor can complain as it was 100% farcical and cant be denied , ok delete any posts that say it was a Con job as in bribed Timekeeper etc as thats potentially slanderous , but why the entire thread .
Complete farce , Shane was robbed , simple as that .
It wasn't deleted - I moved it until it could be cleaned up.
Certain people would absolutely f**king love it if this forum was closed down and some posters on here are helping them get their wish.
What you trying to say ?????
When i wrote that comment the thread wasnt there , so as far as forum menmbers were concerned it had been deleted .
Fair enough you reason makes sense but why you quoting me ?
Kind of makes me think your pointing the finger in my direction .
Not at all - I only quoted you because you asked about the thread, that's all.
maybe Enzo should have stuck at LHW like the original plan, instead of hoping for an easy win just to win a British title, then again gods knows how he'd go on if he ever faced Ovill McKenzie
The_Don1 wrote:maybe Enzo should have stuck at LHW like the original plan, instead of hoping for an easy win just to win a British title, then again gods knows how he'd go on if he ever faced Ovill McKenzie
MachoMan09 wrote:Whether by design (unlikely) or incompetence, McPhilbin was cheated out of his title last night. If the Board don't declare the fight a NC, shame on them.
I agree. The 'error' was likely down to lack of concentration or incompetence and not really any skullduggery. Whether the Board will change the decision or order a rematch, which would be the fairest outcome, time will tell. Personally, I am not so sure.
bengulnaci1 wrote:I agree. The 'error' was likely down to lack of concentration or incompetence and not really any skullduggery. Whether the Board will change the decision or order a rematch, which would be the fairest outcome, time will tell. Personally, I am not so sure.
Why was it likely down to incompetence? Don't you think the "incompetent" early stoppage of the round coinciding with Enzo getting saved from being knocked out was a bit odd?
I don't see why so many people are jumping in to try to whitewash this incident. It is clearly something that needs to be investigated and it is not something that should be swept under the carpet.
If Chisora's behaviour needed to be made an example of then the same certainly applies to what happened on Friday.
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fatcity69 wrote:Im sorry, noone is THAT incompetent!. I used to see this type of thing pulled regularly in the continent, always when the home fighter wasnt doing well!. Im just surprised they didnt go the whole hog and switch the lights off!. This stunk to high heaven but the saddest thing is that I want even very surprised. As for Enzo he should seriously consider his future, if he is wise he will take this early/late Chistmas present and retire before he gets hurt, which he will do if he carries on fighting. With his vulnerbility, accummulated punishment and his ill advised weight yo-yoing hes an accident waiting to happen.
If it was a con designed to save Enzo then it failed miseraby. Every second between rounds is vital to the recovery of a boxer and the timekeeper gave Enzo only 30 seconds rest between round 1 and 2! Luckily for Enzo his opponent was so terrible that he couldn't capitalise further in the next three rounds while Enzo was still like Bambi on ice.
And without the timekeeper's screw up Enzo probably wouldn't have recieved any time to recover between rounds.
Tommy Gunn13 wrote:
He wasnt p*ssed off last night at all(on tv),he was just pleased to share the ring with his hero
I think he will pretty annoyed when he watches it back
Hi Tommy; If Shane was glad to share a ring with Enzo he certainly didn't want to lose; and if he got cheated out of a win against someone he admired I'dve thought a 30 day bender wouldn't make it right. There have been a couple of things lately that've made it seem like boxing was a 'carny' affair and been done in the 'tank towns'. If Kirkland can win by DQ in last nights bout after losing the fight in the rng, is anything possible in boxing any more, even in front of the camera?
Im sure he will be when he comes round from his well earned 12 day bender
bengulnaci1 wrote:I agree. The 'error' was likely down to lack of concentration or incompetence and not really any skullduggery. Whether the Board will change the decision or order a rematch, which would be the fairest outcome, time will tell. Personally, I am not so sure.
Why was it likely down to incompetence? Don't you think the "incompetent" early stoppage of the round coinciding with Enzo getting saved from being knocked out was a bit odd?
I don't see why so many people are jumping in to try to whitewash this incident. It is clearly something that needs to be investigated and it is not something that should be swept under the carpet.
If Chisora's behaviour needed to be made an example of then the same certainly applies to what happened on Friday.
I can only put it down to incompetance as the minute between rounds, wasn't even a minute. So if the idea was to end the round early as Mac was in trouble, it was pretty significant that the break betwen rounds hardly did him any favours. Just looking at the simplest solution, really.
If people are sure that there was something more sinister involved then, fair enough. I can only go by what I saw and base it off that.
PS Never expect the media to tell it how it really is. They know what side their bread is buttered. And Enzo will continue on and get sparked out again, unfortunately.
bengulnaci1 wrote:I can only put it down to incompetance as the minute between rounds, wasn't even a minute. So if the idea was to end the round early as Mac was in trouble, it was pretty significant that the break betwen rounds hardly did him any favours. Just looking at the simplest solution, really.
If people are sure that there was something more sinister involved then, fair enough. I can only go by what I saw and base it off that.
Perhaps the timekeeper did that on purpose to make himself look incompetent rather than corrupt. Like Crusader said 30 seconds of rest is better than getting none.
bengulnaci1 wrote:PS Never expect the media to tell it how it really is. They know what side their bread is buttered. And Enzo will continue on and get sparked out again, unfortunately.
I don't expect much from the media, but I feel their shameful reporting of this event should be pointed out and exposed.
bengulnaci1 wrote:I can only put it down to incompetance as the minute between rounds, wasn't even a minute. So if the idea was to end the round early as Mac was in trouble, it was pretty significant that the break betwen rounds hardly did him any favours. Just looking at the simplest solution, really.
If people are sure that there was something more sinister involved then, fair enough. I can only go by what I saw and base it off that.
Perhaps the timekeeper did that on purpose to make himself look incompetent rather than corrupt. Like Crusader said 30 seconds of rest is better than getting none.
Ah I see, when you look it at that way, then I suppose I can see that point of view. Indeed 30 secs and looking incompetent, is better than allowing the 'house' fighter to be KO'd in 1.
i watched it 3 or 4 times last night. (edited by mod) no-one is that incompetent.
the bell rang to sound round, i seen earlier in this thread that someone put forward a theory maybe the time keeper started the clock during the ref's instructions - but the bell rang to sound round 1.
