In my opinion at 140lbs prime Chavez beats Delahoya, but it'll be far, far from easy. Laporte is not in Delahoya's league and Molina is far from Chavez's.
Neither Chavez nor Delahoya beat fighters as great as the other, unless you count Oscars "victory" over Whitaker.
Just my two cents.
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I don’t think Chavez ever looked quite the same at 140. Might have had some of his best results there but his power always seemed severely diminished to me above 135.
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well he sure smashed Taylor's face in for him just as spectacularly as he did Rosario's.Ezzard wrote:I don’t think Chavez ever looked quite the same at 140. Might have had some of his best results there but his power always seemed severely diminished to me above 135.
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I think he was better at 140 than he was at 130, much stronger and his skills were honed.Ezzard wrote:I don’t think Chavez ever looked quite the same at 140. Might have had some of his best results there but his power always seemed severely diminished to me above 135.
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I agree with this. At 130lb he seemed a bit weight drained in some of his fights. I actually think he appeared his best at 135lb; i know he was only there for a few fights but man, he looked like a monster. Wish he would have hung out there longer.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I think he was better at 140 than he was at 130, much stronger and his skills were honed.Ezzard wrote:I don’t think Chavez ever looked quite the same at 140. Might have had some of his best results there but his power always seemed severely diminished to me above 135.
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Was better than any other fighter that De La Hoya beat. Do not bring the Whitaker or Chavez victories...They were past their very best.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Juan Laporte is greater than DelaHoya?elmersalsa wrote:You must be out of your mind. I don't see Oscar whupping none of those guys above. They were very good.SaadOffTheDeck wrote: Nope, it's the truth. As painful as it might be for you to accept, Oscar was a better fighter than Rosario, Ramirez, Lockridge, LaPorte, etc..![]()
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I don't see Vargas better than La Porte either.
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2x...Thanks for coming The One.theone wrote:In my opinion at 140lbs prime Chavez beats Delahoya, but it'll be far, far from easy. Laporte is not in Delahoya's league and Molina is far from Chavez's.
Neither Chavez nor Delahoya beat fighters as great as the other, unless you count Oscars "victory" over Whitaker.
Just my two cents.
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"2x???" 
He directly contradicts you when he says Chavez never beat anyone as good as De La Hoya, but now you're on board with that? Did you borrow some of what you alleged Saad to be smoking?
He directly contradicts you when he says Chavez never beat anyone as good as De La Hoya, but now you're on board with that? Did you borrow some of what you alleged Saad to be smoking?
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elmersalsa wrote:Was better than any other fighter that De La Hoya beat. Do not bring the Whitaker or Chavez victories...They were past their very best.SaadOffTheDeck wrote:Juan Laporte is greater than DelaHoya?elmersalsa wrote: You must be out of your mind. I don't see Oscar whupping none of those guys above. They were very good.![]()
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I don't see Vargas better than La Porte either.
LOL, you don't even try to follow along in a conversation.