FURY AND ROGAN TO FIGHT FOR IRISH HEAVYWEIGHT TITLE

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When all's said and done it's just a terrible fight for Fury to take. If like expected he hammers Rogan early people will rightly say what was the point. If he beats him on points people will say couldn't even knock out an inactive old man and if he was to lose, well it's game over really. And all for the Irish title after vacating the British. Has he vacated the commonwealth as well?
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonny wrote:As you say usually area titles are 10 rounds with a scoring referee but been told this will be 12 rounds with judges. From a good source
This isnt an area title fight. Its a national title.

Every Irish title fight since the BUI took over from the IBBoC has been over 10 rounds, why would this be any different?

What exactly is your source?
Why i said area title is because the Irish title is really classed the same as a area title over 10 rounds like the Scottish Welsh and all the other areas.

My source is i am friends with the brother of one of the officials appointed
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jonny wrote:Why i said area title is because the Irish title is really classed the same as a area title over 10 rounds like the Scottish Welsh and all the other areas.

My source is i am friends with the brother of one of the officials appointed
Eh, no!

Scottish and Welsh titles are area titles because they are a sub titles leading to the British national title, all three are BBBoC sanctioned titles. The Irish title is a national title the same as the British title and sanctioned by the BUI.
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yid14 wrote:When all's said and done it's just a terrible fight for Fury to take. If like expected he hammers Rogan early people will rightly say what was the point. If he beats him on points people will say couldn't even knock out an inactive old man and if he was to lose, well it's game over really. And all for the Irish title after vacating the British. Has he vacated the commonwealth as well?
I think you are being overly harsh.

It's a good exciting fight in my opinion. Just because we all want to see Fury and Price in the ring together doesnt mean that all other match-ups are shíte.

You'd be shocked at the number of people in Ireland that believe Rogan is going to win this, or at least I was.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonny wrote:Why i said area title is because the Irish title is really classed the same as a area title over 10 rounds like the Scottish Welsh and all the other areas.

My source is i am friends with the brother of one of the officials appointed
Eh, no!

Scottish and Welsh titles are area titles because they are a sub titles leading to the British national title, all three are BBBoC sanctioned titles. The Irish title is a national title the same as the British title and sanctioned by the BUI.
Is there no Irish title sanctioned by the bbbofc then,
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jonny wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonny wrote:Why i said area title is because the Irish title is really classed the same as a area title over 10 rounds like the Scottish Welsh and all the other areas.

My source is i am friends with the brother of one of the officials appointed
Eh, no!

Scottish and Welsh titles are area titles because they are a sub titles leading to the British national title, all three are BBBoC sanctioned titles. The Irish title is a national title the same as the British title and sanctioned by the BUI.
Is there no Irish title sanctioned by the bbbofc then,
The Northern Irish title is sanctioned by the BBBoC and that is an area title like the Central, Southern, Scottish etc.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonny wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote: Eh, no!

Scottish and Welsh titles are area titles because they are a sub titles leading to the British national title, all three are BBBoC sanctioned titles. The Irish title is a national title the same as the British title and sanctioned by the BUI.
Is there no Irish title sanctioned by the bbbofc then,
The Northern Irish title is sanctioned by the BBBoC and that is an area title like the Central, Southern, Scottish etc.
yeah that's what i was thinking with my mistake.
Still 12 rounds though
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jonny wrote: yeah that's what i was thinking with my mistake.
Still 12 rounds though
Wrong again mate, just called the head of the BUI and he confirmed that it is a 10 round fight.

:TU:
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The British Northern Ireland area title has only been fought for twice in the last 15 years at any weight.

Joe Hillerby and Willie Thompson will put the NI middleweight title on the line this weekend in Belfast.

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slapbangwhallop wrote:
safeerah wrote:
Finch wrote:Brilliant. Fury vacates the British title because he's petrified of Price, despite the fact it's much bigger money and against tougher opposition and fights for a less prestigious title against a 40 year old who hasn't done anything for a few years now.

Still, I'm sure it's the right move to prepare for a world title.
You are spot on mate, lets be honest most people would go for european title next or an International title against a top 15 heavyweight, not an Irish title, most people could fight for a Irish title from England, as most people have grandparents or great grand parents who are Irish, ridiculous if you ask me, did not Fury get turned down by Ireland for the amateurs before ?
You have to qualify for an Irish passport to be eligible for an Irish title, which is the exact same rules as fighting for a British title.
Has Firy got an Irish passport, yes or no ?
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonny wrote: yeah that's what i was thinking with my mistake.
Still 12 rounds though
Wrong again mate, just called the head of the BUI and he confirmed that it is a 10 round fight.

:TU:
So is it a scoring ref now then or judges.
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safeerah wrote:Has Firy got an Irish passport, yes or no ?
Not that i am aware of. There are British champions that didnt have British passports, and even some that didnt hold a British licence.

Your point?
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jonny wrote:So is it a scoring ref now then or judges.
Usually just a scoring ref.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
safeerah wrote:Has Firy got an Irish passport, yes or no ?
Not that i am aware of. There are British champions that didnt have British passports, and even some that didnt hold a British licence.

Your point?
I did not ask about the british title did I ? You said they had to qualify or be eligable for a an Irish passport, to do that you would have to have applied and been granted.
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safeerah wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
safeerah wrote:Has Firy got an Irish passport, yes or no ?
Not that i am aware of. There are British champions that didnt have British passports, and even some that didnt hold a British licence.

Your point?
I did not ask about the british title did I ? You said they had to qualify or be eligable for a an Irish passport, to do that you would have to have applied and been granted.
British is not the same as Irish and English anyway.
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safeerah wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
safeerah wrote:Has Firy got an Irish passport, yes or no ?
Not that i am aware of. There are British champions that didnt have British passports, and even some that didnt hold a British licence.

Your point?
I did not ask about the british title did I ? You said they had to qualify or be eligable for a an Irish passport, to do that you would have to have applied and been granted.
As usual you are WRONG! like most of the time when you aint discussing your son.

Didnt your lad fight for some WBC Asia continent trinket?
safeerah wrote:British is not the same as Irish and English anyway.
Really? wow, thanks for the info! Logged.
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safeerah wrote: British is not the same as Irish and English anyway.

Isn't it?
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
safeerah wrote:Has Firy got an Irish passport, yes or no ?
Not that i am aware of. There are British champions that didnt have British passports, and even some that didnt hold a British licence.

Your point?

Dont want to get involved in this whole thing as its the fights that are important not whos from where or not. But i think thats a great bit of trivia whos the british champs with no british passport good tiebreaker for a quiz that is.

Like i say not getting involved in this discussion but really intersted in the answer to this one.
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jonp wrote:
Dont want to get involved in this whole thing as its the fights that are important not whos from where or not. But i think thats a great bit of trivia whos the british champs with no british passport good tiebreaker for a quiz that is.

Like i say not getting involved in this discussion but really intersted in the answer to this one.
Peggy, stop getting involved and stirring stuff with me and Mr. Al Harbi! :wink:

Plenty of Northern Ireland lads have Irish passports and only that to show a birth cert to the board as proof of eligibility to fight for the British title.

Neil Sinclair, I believe had a British passport, but only ever fought off an Irish BUI licence.

#IrishBoxingTriviaKing
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonp wrote:
Dont want to get involved in this whole thing as its the fights that are important not whos from where or not. But i think thats a great bit of trivia whos the british champs with no british passport good tiebreaker for a quiz that is.

Like i say not getting involved in this discussion but really intersted in the answer to this one.
Peggy, stop getting involved and stirring stuff with me and Mr. Al Harbi! :wink:

Plenty of Northern Ireland lads have Irish passports and only that to show a birth cert to the board as proof of eligibility to fight for the British title.

Neil Sinclair, I believe had a British passport, but only ever fought off an Irish BUI licence.

#IrishBoxingTriviaKing
Did Barry McGuigan have a British passport? Obviously I'm just thinking because he was born in the Republic thats all.
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jameswilson wrote:Did Barry McGuigan have a British passport? Obviously I'm just thinking because he was born in the Republic thats all.
Yeah McGuigan had to take an British passport because he was from Monaghan.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonp wrote:
Dont want to get involved in this whole thing as its the fights that are important not whos from where or not. But i think thats a great bit of trivia whos the british champs with no british passport good tiebreaker for a quiz that is.

Like i say not getting involved in this discussion but really intersted in the answer to this one.
Peggy, stop getting involved and stirring stuff with me and Mr. Al Harbi! :wink:

Plenty of Northern Ireland lads have Irish passports and only that to show a birth cert to the board as proof of eligibility to fight for the British title.

Neil Sinclair, I believe had a British passport, but only ever fought off an Irish BUI licence.

#IrishBoxingTriviaKing
Haha thats why i stated at the start i wanted nothing to do with it ,but its not often i can get asked a boxing trivia question and not have a clue what the answer is, i genuinly wanted to know the answer.
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jonny wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
jonny wrote:As you say usually area titles are 10 rounds with a scoring referee but been told this will be 12 rounds with judges. From a good source
This isnt an area title fight. Its a national title.

Every Irish title fight since the BUI took over from the IBBoC has been over 10 rounds, why would this be any different?

What exactly is your source?
Why i said area title is because the Irish title is really classed the same as a area title over 10 rounds like the Scottish Welsh and all the other areas.

My source is i am friends with the brother of one of the officials appointed
Your wasting your time with this guy Jonny, he does not take anything on board anyone says thinks he knows it all, especially anything to do with Ireland, then if you disagree he goes back to his childhood lol.
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i think most people here are missing the point,now i like fury in the ring hes exciting and can dig and i like him outside too hes pretty witty without being too cruel almost an ali-esque cheeky glint in the eye(mcdermott-mcmuffin being my personal fave) but hes been built up from day 1 and this is the 1st real test i know he beat an overweight chisora but that was when the jury was still out on del boy whereas alot of people genuinly believe price is a bona fide replacement to the klitschkos so for fury(or mick hennessey) to vacate is massive let down for british boxing regardless of who hes fighting the fact hes fighting an ageing and inactive rogan just confirms it
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
safeerah wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote: Not that i am aware of. There are British champions that didnt have British passports, and even some that didnt hold a British licence.

Your point?
I did not ask about the british title did I ? You said they had to qualify or be eligable for a an Irish passport, to do that you would have to have applied and been granted.
As usual you are WRONG! like most of the time when you aint discussing your son.

Didnt your lad fight for some WBC Asia continent trinket?
safeerah wrote:British is not the same as Irish and English anyway.
Really? wow, thanks for the info! Logged.
So why compare them then in your argument then, what an argumentative boxing Irelander you are and I am not wrong unless Ireland is some other place, because the last time I looked at your passport system, you had to apply for a passport before you where considered. As usual and judging by your responses to everyone, you don't like being wrong, the worst part of it for you is Fury qualified for the title because of a grandparent, that I started with in the first place, you could start an argument with yourself lol.
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