Groves sinner or saint

[TJ77]

I like George and i think he can
win his up coming world title challenge.
That said i think the fight is winnable more so
because of flaws in his opponent though Groves
will need to dominate .
Nice as it will be to have another British
world champ it will always be said he ducked
out of the fight he needed to have but never really
fancied.
Kenny Anderson would have as much chance of winning
that world title as groves IMO and the fact he has been denied
his chance to avenge his loss will undermine groves standing with
genuine fans regardless of his achivements .

[Omerta]

If he wins title he should make first defence against Anderson

[TJ77]

If he wins title he should make first defence against Anderson

Will probably do a khan and claim anderson wants
too bigger share of the purse .I hope not as its a great fight
that needs to happen .

[Tommy Gunn13]

If he wins title he should make first defence against Anderson

I doubt very much Anderson even has a ranking as hes not beat anyone of note(not that he couldnt)
EDIT Just looked on Andersons record&apart from Groves hes only boxed 4 fighters with a winning record

[yiddo14]

Stieglitz would beat Anderson. He has shown nothing to suggest he would stand as much chance of beating him as Groves.

This Groves-Anderson thing really isn't like Hatton- Witter, Khan-Brook etc. The so called pretenders in them cases had showcased their considerable talents and beat fighters of note. Anderson is living off a few good rounds against an underperfoming Groves who rallied to stop Kenny and who has improved considerably since.

I think Smith would beat Anderson.

[TJ77]

Stieglitz would beat Anderson. He has shown nothing to suggest he would stand as much chance of beating him as Groves.

This Groves-Anderson thing really isn't like Hatton- Witter, Khan-Brook etc. The so called pretenders in them cases had showcased their considerable talents and beat fighters of note. Anderson is living off a few good rounds against an underperfoming Groves who rallied to stop Kenny and who has improved considerably since.

I think Smith would beat Anderson.

Paul ?

[smoggy7188]

I dont see how people can call for Groves to fight Kenny if he wins the world title then complain when Cleverley fights Karpency and Krasniqi. Kenny needs to do a number on Smith then beat another decent fighter then maybe fight Groves. Groves will fight Abraham cos I reckon Booth thinks George can do a Froch and outbox Abraham like the DeGale fight.

[Tommy Gunn13]

I dont see how people can call for Groves to fight Kenny if he wins the world title then complain when Cleverley fights Karpency and Krasniqi. Kenny needs to do a number on Smith then beat another decent fighter then maybe fight Groves. Groves will fight Abraham cos I reckon Booth thinks George can do a Froch and outbox Abraham like the DeGale fight.

Surely he cant get a straight shot if Groves wins the title?I was quite shocked when i looked on his record at how poor his opponents have been to date..

[jameswilson]

Stieglitz would beat Anderson. He has shown nothing to suggest he would stand as much chance of beating him as Groves.

This Groves-Anderson thing really isn't like Hatton- Witter, Khan-Brook etc. The so called pretenders in them cases had showcased their considerable talents and beat fighters of note. Anderson is living off a few good rounds against an underperfoming Groves who rallied to stop Kenny and who has improved considerably since.

I think Smith would beat Anderson.

Paul ?

No. Granny.


Of course fornicating Paul!

[Tommy Gunn13]

Stieglitz would beat Anderson. He has shown nothing to suggest he would stand as much chance of beating him as Groves.

This Groves-Anderson thing really isn't like Hatton- Witter, Khan-Brook etc. The so called pretenders in them cases had showcased their considerable talents and beat fighters of note. Anderson is living off a few good rounds against an underperfoming Groves who rallied to stop Kenny and who has improved considerably since.

I think Smith would beat Anderson.

Paul ?

No. Granny.


Of course effing Paul!

[TJ77]

I dont see how people can call for Groves to fight Kenny if he wins the world title then complain when Cleverley fights Karpency and Krasniqi. Kenny needs to do a number on Smith then beat another decent fighter then maybe fight Groves. Groves will fight Abraham cos I reckon Booth thinks George can do a Froch and outbox Abraham like the DeGale fight.

Surely he cant get a straight shot if Groves wins the title?I was quite shocked when i looked on his record at how poor his opponents have been to date..

Fact remains they were meant to settle it and it hasnt happened
regardless of records groves agreed to the fight and therefore the least he
should do having swerved the rematch is offer him 1st crack .

[ashedward]

I like George and i think he can
win his up coming world title challenge.
That said i think the fight is winnable more so
because of flaws in his opponent though Groves
will need to dominate .
Nice as it will be to have another British
world champ it will always be said he ducked
out of the fight he needed to have but never really
fancied.
Kenny Anderson would have as much chance of winning
that world title as groves IMO and the fact he has been denied
his chance to avenge his loss will undermine groves standing with
genuine fans regardless of his achivements .

Nah mate,i think you forget that Groves won the first fight by stoppage so the rematch wasn`t a fight he needed to have despite Andersons propagnda.It would of been a sideways step at best,now he gets a world title fight.Anderson needs to beat some half decent fighters before he would deserve to be near a World title fight,his best win at the moment is Mendy who has just lost to a light middleweight.

[smoggy7188]

Anderson was a mandatory defence so had to fight him or give up the belts or take a world title fight, I know which of those three options the majority of boxers would pick.

[yiddo14]

He didn't swerve him. He got a better offer to fight a better fighter in a much bigger fight.

I guess he could always fight him in a non title bout if he wanted to beat him again. I cannot see the WBO sanctioning Anderson as an opponent. This is of course presuming Groves beats Stieglitz which is no certainty.

If Groves wins I imagine Anderson won't feature on his radar at all. He would have moved on ( he had already moved on to bigger things ) considerably.

[smoggy7188]

My memory might be slipping but didnt kenny pull out of a fight to take on groves the 1st time?

[TJ77]

I understand your reasoning but he gave him the rematch and he should fight him

[smoggy7188]

He didnt give him a remtach it was a mandatory, big difference.

[yiddo14]

If Groves loses then an Anderson fight makes sense.

[TJ77]

@ smoggy your right and im not digging.groves out for
choosing the better fight just think its all gone under the rug
because we have had 3 failed attempts and now there is a chance
we will nick another title.no one wants to recognise an injustice

[smoggy7188]

3 failed attempts at what?

[ashedward]

I dont see how people can call for Groves to fight Kenny if he wins the world title then complain when Cleverley fights Karpency and Krasniqi. Kenny needs to do a number on Smith then beat another decent fighter then maybe fight Groves. Groves will fight Abraham cos I reckon Booth thinks George can do a Froch and outbox Abraham like the DeGale fight.

Surely he cant get a straight shot if Groves wins the title?I was quite shocked when i looked on his record at how poor his opponents have been to date..

Fact remains they were meant to settle it and it hasnt happened
regardless of records groves agreed to the fight and therefore the least he
should do having swerved the rematch is offer him 1st crack .

He` s ditched the rematch for a tougher fight for a world title hardly a duck is it.Anderson has been fucked over but he hadn`t done mutch to be made mandatory anyway,like somebody has already said he is living of a couple of good rounds.If Groves wins,Anderson should be happy with fighting for a vacant British title in a winable fight against someone like Smith.

[Tommy Gunn13]

I dont see how people can call for Groves to fight Kenny if he wins the world title then complain when Cleverley fights Karpency and Krasniqi. Kenny needs to do a number on Smith then beat another decent fighter then maybe fight Groves. Groves will fight Abraham cos I reckon Booth thinks George can do a Froch and outbox Abraham like the DeGale fight.

Surely he cant get a straight shot if Groves wins the title?I was quite shocked when i looked on his record at how poor his opponents have been to date..

Fact remains they were meant to settle it and it hasnt happened
regardless of records groves agreed to the fight and therefore the least he
should do having swerved the rematch is offer him 1st crack .

If Groves wins he will be on a totally differant level to Anderson&i doubt he will give him a second thought..

[dbf]

Feel sorry for Anderson.

Haye, according to his confident and 'biographer' looked shit in prep for initial Wladi fight (summer 09) and pulled out with a back problem.

Groves gets a chance to fight for a world title and pulls out of a tricky fight against a man who gave him all he could handle in their first encounter with, you guessed it, a back problem.

Booth is no genius but played it well both times, back injuries are very hard to substantiate or should I say dispute.

Poor Anderson he deserves a shot should Groves win.

[smoggy7188]

He should give up the Commonwealth title and let Anderson/Smith fight for it so if he looses the Stieglitz fight then he can fight the winner of that.

[Terrrrry]

No way does Anderson deserve a world title shot. Anderson needs to do what Groves has done to get a shot, i.e beat the best that Britain has to offer at domestic level. Anderson has beat a load of nobodies so far.

He is very, very overrated on here.

Saint George