Best P4P fighter ever??

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 05 Sep 2005, 15:11

ill takeeee ezzard charles.. maybe armstrong i dunno what do u guys think?

vagabundo55 · Post by **vagabundo55** » 05 Sep 2005, 15:27

Sugar Ray Robinson.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 05 Sep 2005, 15:27

I'd go for Henry Armstrong... if any one deserves this distinction it has to be him imo.......

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 05 Sep 2005, 16:20

silkov wrote:I'd go for Henry Armstrong... if any one deserves this distinction it has to be him imo.......

Man, I seem to agree with you everywhere but heavyweight discussions. Armstrong's my #1. Not as talented as Robinson nor a career as expansive as Robinson, but was as if not more destructive in his prime than Robinson.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 05 Sep 2005, 17:06

Sherlock wrote:
silkov wrote:I'd go for Henry Armstrong... if any one deserves this distinction it has to be him imo.......
Man, I seem to agree with you everywhere but heavyweight discussions. Armstrong's my #1. Not as talented as Robinson nor a career as expansive as Robinson, but was as if not more destructive in his prime than Robinson.

I actually think a peak Armstrong would have been too strong and fast for Robinson at Welter and would have beaten him on points!. Hell of a fight though!......

wlvrne · Post by **wlvrne** » 05 Sep 2005, 17:16

The one and only SUGAR gets my vote - Sugar Ray Robinson.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 05 Sep 2005, 17:44

Ezzard Charles

dws · Post by **dws** » 05 Sep 2005, 17:46

I'd go for Robinson because his style was more conductive to beating different styles(outbox the boxers and he could out slug the sluggers) but if anyone picks Armstrong I wouldn't argue a bit,his record for a while until his style probably caught up with him was amazing.

Sherlock · Post by **Sherlock** » 05 Sep 2005, 17:54

silkov wrote:
Sherlock wrote:
silkov wrote:I'd go for Henry Armstrong... if any one deserves this distinction it has to be him imo.......
Man, I seem to agree with you everywhere but heavyweight discussions. Armstrong's my #1. Not as talented as Robinson nor a career as expansive as Robinson, but was as if not more destructive in his prime than Robinson.
I actually think a peak Armstrong would have been too strong and fast for Robinson at Welter and would have beaten him on points!. Hell of a fight though!......

I think he does too. Just saying overall he wasn't as purely talented boxing wise as Robinson.

Sam Langford should get a mention.

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 05 Sep 2005, 18:52

David Tua

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 05 Sep 2005, 19:48

david tua?

klompton · Post by **klompton** » 05 Sep 2005, 19:58

Harry Greb or Sam Langford

Rory McCloskey · Post by **Rory McCloskey** » 05 Sep 2005, 20:09

hmm where do u guys think duran lists?... i dont think hes the greatest or anything, but ive heard other people dub him the greatest.. where do u think he is on the list?

jwizard · Post by **jwizard** » 06 Sep 2005, 01:41

Every poll I have ever seen that used experts, observers and historians on this subject have put Sugar Ray Robinson at the top.

Every Ring Magazine list and the AP End of Century Boxing Poll come to mind.

Plus MOST (not all, of course) of the old boxers, trainers and observers who saw him fight....Ali, Joe Louis, Ingemar Johansson, Floyd Patterson...Nat Fleischer, Don Dunphy, Ferdie Pacheco...on and on and...

vagabundo55 · Post by **vagabundo55** » 06 Sep 2005, 01:53

Rory McCloskey wrote:hmm where do u guys think duran lists?... i dont think hes the greatest or anything, but ive heard other people dub him the greatest.. where do u think he is on the list?

Top 10 maybe even top 5. He's the greatest Latin boxer.

jyuza · Post by **jyuza** » 06 Sep 2005, 02:33

For sure, Sugar Ray Robinson.

If Duran he's in top 10 than Hagler and Hearns are too

Ezzard · Post by **Ezzard** » 06 Sep 2005, 04:29

1. Ezzard Charles
2. Ray Robinson
3. Sam Langford
4. Roberto Duran
5. Henry Armstrong
6. Harry Greb
7. Sandy Saddler
8. Willie Pep
9. Ray Leonard
10. Jimmy Wilde

Everyone has their own opinions and the order does change but hopefully most people would take at least 6/10 of my list

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iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 06 Sep 2005, 05:32

David Tua, Fahshan 3K Battery Por Thawatchai, and Lovemore N'Dou!

dalek · Post by **dalek** » 06 Sep 2005, 08:25

i'd go with in no particular order
armstrong
pep
robinson
duran
ketchel
greb
langford
charles
ali
saddler

Grimm · Post by **Grimm** » 06 Sep 2005, 08:45

J.C. Chavez(hey don't go there)
Sam Langford
Joe Walcott
Ray Leonard
Ray Robinson.
Just my list.

barry · Post by **barry** » 06 Sep 2005, 11:53

I've always said Robinson, but the more that I learn about Henry Armstrong, the more I lean toward him as P4P best!

tiredoldngrey · Post by **tiredoldngrey** » 06 Sep 2005, 15:13

Benny Leonard.

sharkeysboy · Post by **sharkeysboy** » 06 Sep 2005, 16:41

Henry Armstrong
Sam Langford
Harry Greb
Ray Robinson
Mickey Walker
Bob Fitzsimmons
Roberto Duran

Seasoned Veteran · Post by **Seasoned Veteran** » 07 Sep 2005, 05:36

Robinson would get my vote.

Haven't seen enough of Henry Armstrong to make a judgement.

Gordon · Post by **Gordon** » 07 Sep 2005, 07:07

The Sugar man OR Hammering Hank

Ray Robinson & Henry Armstrong were head & shoulders above the rest.

Others in NO particular order

Benny Leonard
Roberto Duran
Muhammad Ali
Jimmy Wilde
Harry Greb

Are just a few of the top of my head.

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