Mitchell/Burns, 14th July, Upton Park, London

[billy nelson]

Kevin hasnt achieved anything like what Ricky has and end off geezer...Yes he has. He's been British and Commonwealth Champ, they've both acheived alot. Mitchell also he won the British Title stopping a man who defeated Burns very wide on points. You and others go on about the Katsides result to compare them so why not the Carl Johannson result?

Come on to eff that was Rickys last fight for his old trainer,more recently Ricky schooled a guy that stopped Kevin in three Ricky has became a two weight world champion with the fullest of repect at present theres no comparison between the two

It was still Ricky in the ring, "more recently Ricky schooled a guy that stopped Kevin in three " ... I think even you would have to agree that (a) Burns didn't box the same Katsides, and (b) The Mitchell which boxed Johannson, Prescott & Murray wasn't the same Mitchell who boxed Katsides. Point I'm trying to make to you Billy is that you can't go by past form on similar/same opponents or sparring to make a guaranteed prediction. It's good to be passionate but your showing your sleeve and emotions way too much. You mention 'no excuses' in earlier posts. I wonder if you'll come out with any should this fight not go to plan for you? "Ricky has became a two weight world champion with the fullest of repect at present theres no comparison between the two" Come on Billy, even you know nowadays its the fighters which make the title not the other way round. Your not talking to the general public on here who don't understand about the politics of the sport. Burns is a two weight 'WBO Champ'. And your deluded if you really think that there is 'no comparison between the two'. If I was Ricky, I'd be concerned your thinking like this and taking Mitchell to lightly and giving him no respect. Anyway, not long now so we shall see. One thing, it will be interesting

We certainly wont take Kevin lightly but one things for sure i have the better man and he will prove it,whatever you say about Ricky what hes achieved Kevin hasnt

[lusop]

IS IT ON BILLY ????????????????

[billy nelson]

IS IT ON BILLY ????????????????

NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[billy nelson]

I agree

that makes 2 of you and one of you had to make up they went to a non existent sparring session where mitchell won.

I 100% saw them spar, and from what I saw Mitchell didn't show anything near what his capable of and it was still 50/50, ask billy joe saunders, he was there !

Ask the other 40-50 that were there they'd tell you diffrently,listen it dont matter Burns beats Kevin handy

[lusop]

Cheers Billy....

[Des1]

You see, I'm glad most are writing Mitchell off as most was for the Murray fight. Look what happened when nobody gave him a chance. Yes, Murray and Burns are different styles but that wont make a difference as he was written off against Prescott and his style is different to both (just in my opinion Billy, dont take it personal and comeback with abusive comments :) ). And I'll say it again, if your going to use the Katsides fight to compare then also use the Johannson fight. And Billy, I dont see Jimmy or Mark Tibbs on here getting all uptight and emotional over it. I'd say deep down they're more comfortable about this fight than you, wouldn't you? And if Mitchell did happen to lose, I'm sure they wont look back feeling a fool as they haven't been running their mouth off. Let actions speak louder than words, be humble and let it happen. Its a better feeling if it does happen, and its no pressure or shame if it doesn't. In short, stop acting like a 14 year old in a playground.

[yiddo14]

It's far from 'everyone writing Mitchell off'.

I would hazard a guess that if there was a poll running on here it would be something like 65-35 in Burns' favour.

[Dan Dares]

so far the 3 nutt huggers on this site have he hits harder than katsidis, he's more accurate than katsidis, he has a masterful boxing brain and a granite chin. Yet katsidis smashed him up in 3 rounds without even breaking a sweat.

I'm not a 'nuthugger'. It's just my opinion that Mitchell hits just as hard as Katsidis, and is a better boxer than Burns. Got nothing to do with 'nuthugging'. Mitchell's loss to Katsidis was down to Mitchell, not Katsidis.

If his promoter didn't believe that a focused, fit Mitchell would beat Katsidis, he wouldn't have made the fight. And he certainly wouldn't have made the fight with Burns had Katsidis not been further shopworn from severe beatings off JMM and Guerrero.

Burns has improved dramatically, which makes it a good fight. Full respect to him and his trainer for this, but fancying Mitchell to knock Burns out doesn't make me a 'nuthugger'.

Well your clearly deluded if you think kevin is a better boxer than Ricky. Rickys faster,stronger,fitter and beats Kevin in every dept sorry but your a mile out my man

If you read the post earlier, you'll notice I said "I'm not interested in what Burn's trainer says"

[Des1]

IS IT ON BILLY ????????????????

NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, thats why your comments are so cocky. Because.."Is the fight on?".... your quote "NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ......The fight isn't officially made yet! Thats why your beating on like you are Do you actually want the fight Billy? Don't think you do, you've never pushed for it and in the past have tried to rubbish it off "burns dosn't need Mitchell", " going for bigger fish" etc. I think when it becomes real, and your in the changing room ready to go out your going to be in deep thought.......

[jessi]

You see, I'm glad most are writing Mitchell off as most was for the Murray fight. Look what happened when nobody gave him a chance. Yes, Murray and Burns are different styles but that wont make a difference as he was written off against Prescott and his style is different to both (just in my opinion Billy, dont take it personal and comeback with abusive comments :) ). And I'll say it again, if your going to use the Katsides fight to compare then also use the Johannson fight. And Billy, I dont see Jimmy or Mark Tibbs on here getting all uptight and emotional over it. I'd say deep down they're more comfortable about this fight than you, wouldn't you? And if Mitchell did happen to lose, I'm sure they wont look back feeling a fool as they haven't been running their mouth off. Let actions speak louder than words, be humble and let it happen. Its a better feeling if it does happen, and its no pressure or shame if it doesn't. In short, stop acting like a 14 year old in a playground.

[jessi]

IS IT ON BILLY ????????????????

NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, thats why your comments are so cocky. Because.."Is the fight on?".... your quote "NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ......The fight isn't officially made yet! Thats why your beating on like you are Do you actually want the fight Billy? Don't think you do, you've never pushed for it and in the past have tried to rubbish it off "burns dosn't need Mitchell", " going for bigger fish" etc. I think when it becomes real, and your in the changing room ready to go out your going to be in deep thought.......

[Datsue]

If you read the post earlier, you'll notice I said "I'm not interested in what Burn's trainer says"

[billy nelson]

You see, I'm glad most are writing Mitchell off as most was for the Murray fight. Look what happened when nobody gave him a chance. Yes, Murray and Burns are different styles but that wont make a difference as he was written off against Prescott and his style is different to both (just in my opinion Billy, dont take it personal and comeback with abusive comments :) ). And I'll say it again, if your going to use the Katsides fight to compare then also use the Johannson fight. And Billy, I dont see Jimmy or Mark Tibbs on here getting all uptight and emotional over it. I'd say deep down they're more comfortable about this fight than you, wouldn't you? And if Mitchell did happen to lose, I'm sure they wont look back feeling a fool as they haven't been running their mouth off. Let actions speak louder than words, be humble and let it happen. Its a better feeling if it does happen, and its no pressure or shame if it doesn't. In short, stop acting like a 14 year old in a playground.

I have the utmost respect for Jimmy Tibbs but Jimmy knows i have the better and more professional man.It will be a great fight when it happens i just beleive Ricky will be too good for Kevin (only my opinion).
Mate i supported Kevin when he fought Murray i like the guy and we talk every time we meet,what happens will happen.

[J]

it will be a good fight.

I think Ricky has more in the tank and is on the upward curve, is more disciplined and has the better jab.

Kevin..as we know has had his ups and downs Iwould say has more power (but not the better chin) and is more flashy with more in his armoury. He is also easier to hit clean.

Its a good fight and like both lads. Dunno who i will shout for.

[palooka]

You see, I'm glad most are writing Mitchell off as most was for the Murray fight. Look what happened when nobody gave him a chance. Yes, Murray and Burns are different styles but that wont make a difference as he was written off against Prescott and his style is different to both (just in my opinion Billy, dont take it personal and comeback with abusive comments :) ). And I'll say it again, if your going to use the Katsides fight to compare then also use the Johannson fight. And Billy, I dont see Jimmy or Mark Tibbs on here getting all uptight and emotional over it. I'd say deep down they're more comfortable about this fight than you, wouldn't you? And if Mitchell did happen to lose, I'm sure they wont look back feeling a fool as they haven't been running their mouth off. Let actions speak louder than words, be humble and let it happen. Its a better feeling if it does happen, and its no pressure or shame if it doesn't. In short, stop acting like a 14 year old in a playground.

I have the utmost respect for Jimmy Tibbs but Jimmy knows i have the better and more professional man.It will be a great fight when it happens i just beleive Ricky will be too good for Kevin (only my opinion).
Mate i supported Kevin when he fought Murray i like the guy and we talk every time we meet,what happens will happen.

Ricky seems to have his feet on the floor, has done great the last couple of years and has beat a couple of men that had very good track records. He does seem to be more settled than Kevin and if it comes off it will be a great bout. I think that Mitchell will knuckle down and get in fantastic condition; if he does then both will be facing the best they've fought; (Mitchell wasn't at his best v Katsidis, Burns hadn't hit his stride v Johansson, Martinez was a ittle over rated ad when Katsidis boxed Burns he was past his peak).

On their day both are top boxfighters. I hope it comes off and imagine that Kevin will have rounds to make up by halfway; it should be nerve wracking for both sets of fans. Kevin has one punch power and Ricky hit Katsidis very hard at times. An excellent bout, with no one to slate.

[revporl]

Really hope this comes off. Top match up, far more exciting than a couple of heavyweight hooligans, but this won't be on that bill now will it, after the BBBoC's statement?

[Dan Dares]

far more exciting than a couple of heavyweight hooligans

Nail on the head.

[davie]

IS IT ON BILLY ????????????????

NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh, thats why your comments are so cocky. Because.."Is the fight on?".... your quote "NO IT ISN'T!!!!!!!NO YET ANYWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" ......The fight isn't officially made yet! Thats why your beating on like you are Do you actually want the fight Billy? Don't think you do, you've never pushed for it and in the past have tried to rubbish it off "burns dosn't need Mitchell", " going for bigger fish" etc. I think when it becomes real, and your in the changing room ready to go out your going to be in deep thought.......

i hardly think burns/nelson need to be too concerned about mitchel,when they've fought bigger names already at a higher level.
the thing is, mitchell isn't a step up, so it maybe represents an unneccesary risk, but wouldn't be something that should concern a man who beat martinez and katsidis

[billy nelson]

Kevin's gona smash him up. Find it funny how no one's giving Mitchell a chance again. If you look up some posts I put up about Kevin last year before the Murray fight, everyone was saying he didn't have a chance in hell. I think I was the only one that thought he'd beat John. Then what happens, ...Kev stopped him, ...hahaha! Now you're saying that Murray played into Mitchell's hands with his "come forward style" The same aggressive style you all said would be too much for Kevin.
Now it's like Deja-vous all over again!

Kevin will send the sweaty back up the M1 with a black eye. "Team Tibbs"

Ricky Burns isnt John Murray you mug!

[Eddy]

Now now sweet heart. Don't get all upset.
If this fight happens, can't wait to see your reply when Kev bangs him out. Bet we won't see you on here again, you prat!

[billy nelson]

Now now sweet heart. Don't get all upset.
If this fight happens, can't wait to see your reply when Kev bangs him out. Bet we won't see you on here again, you prat!

Oh rest assured Eddy you will when i tell you all again "TOLD YOU SO"

[Des1]

Now now sweet heart. Don't get all upset.
If this fight happens, can't wait to see your reply when Kev bangs him out. Bet we won't see you on here again, you prat!

Oh rest assured Eddy you will when i tell you all again "TOLD YOU SO"

Dont you get it Billy? The point being made to you is not so much who will win but the way you carry on about it, your really letting yourself down. What if Ricky happened to lose? Lets say that in your mind the impossible happened? Honestly, how would you feel after childishly running your mouth off? More importantly, how will Ricky feel on top of not just losing but feeling he has really let you down, to the point of embarrassing you? Is it wise to put added pressure on a fighter? Anyway, I hear that Ricky Burns (more than likely with your input) is refusing to sign the contract for the fight. I may have heard wrong, I hope I have. So, are you expressing your overwhelming confidence or are you preaching this massive confidence because 'you know' this fight isn't going to happen?

[yiddo14]

Got to chuckle at those here saying Nelson is shouting his mouth off etc. Just look at some of the posts above! The Mitchell fan club hardly seem the standard bearers of class here do they?

Plenty here are giving Mitchell a chance if they do fight, Burns, understandably starts as favourite though. Mitchell gets some unwarranted praise at times here. Anyone would think we are talking about Manny Pacquaio the way some go on! Shame because he is a good fighter in his own right. The hype brigade has always seemed to follow him.

[Des1]

Got to chuckle at those here saying Nelson is shouting his mouth off etc. Just look at some of the posts above! The Mitchell fan club hardly seem the standard bearers of class here do they?

Plenty here are giving Mitchell a chance if they do fight, Burns, understandably starts as favourite though. Mitchell gets some unwarranted praise at times here. Anyone would think we are talking about Manny Pacquaio the way some go on! Shame because he is a good fighter in his own right. The hype brigade has always seemed to follow him.

Difference is, Nelson is a trainer of one of the fighter's. Point out where I have shown bad class (if including me in what you referring too) as I can point out where Nelson has shown poor class in his comments regarding another boxer, its one thing stomaching it coming from a 'fan' but not from a coach of a respected boxer.

[Des1]

It was also the begining of Rickys camp no excuses lads

No it wasn't, anyway as a trainer/coach you should know you can't go by sparring at who would win the 'contest'. Sparring is not a real fight Billy....

Listen mate how the eff would you know? im telling you it was at the start of our training camp and Ricky was far far better

Billy, so the fight is not happening now because Burns (that really being you) has refused to sign the contract as you "Don't feel you have enough time to get ready for 14 July"..... Thats two months! How much time do you want! You knew and know the fight isn't going to happen, thats why you made all your noise.