Warren to block Hatton fights until after court date

boxingchat · Post by **boxingchat** » 07 Sep 2005, 10:24

So you are a Hatton stooge?

So come on tell us or stopr wasting our time on here. Doesn't he have a car for you to clean or something.

G-man + Hatton = Hemoroid

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 10:26

boxingchat wrote:So you are a Hatton stooge?

So come on tell us or stopr wasting our time on here. Doesn't he have a car for you to clean or something.

G-man + Hatton = Hemoroid

Why do you bother posting here? Its obvious you're just trying to antagonise everyone but failing miserably and just looking like a complete pudendum.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Sep 2005, 10:40

boxingchat wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
boxingchat wrote:
Hallh- ficking- lullah - someone get's it!
I don't disagree with any of this, never have.

Why exactly. you bias is obvious.

What fornicating bias? Do I work for Hatton...nope. Do I work for Warren, no.

I see it objectively. Warren has invested in Hatton, made money, and got him where he wanted on terms that suited him.

Hatton has done very nicely, and I have it on what I consider pretty good authority that some of the fights which fell through mentioning no specifics, fell through because of Hatton's demands, not Warrens.

I don't accept the spiel that promoters are always to blame, far from it.

However. I'm sure Warren has also done very nicely out of Hatton, and without getting his brains bashed in too.

If Ricky is indeed a free agent, the courts will uphold his right to pursue his career with whosoever he wishes, after all, he's not an indentured worker.

If however, Warren DOES have a watertight agreement, the courts will undoubtedly tell the Hattons that they either have to pay him off to get out of contract or stay put.

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 07 Sep 2005, 10:43

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
boxingchat wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote: I don't disagree with any of this, never have.

Why exactly. you bias is obvious.
What fornicating bias? Do I work for Hatton...nope. Do I work for Warren, no.

I see it objectively. Warren has invested in Hatton, made money, and got him where he wanted on terms that suited him.

Hatton has done very nicely, and I have it on what I consider pretty good authority that some of the fights which fell through mentioning no specifics, fell through because of Hatton's demands, not Warrens.

I don't accept the spiel that promoters are always to blame, far from it.

However. I'm sure Warren has also done very nicely out of Hatton, and without getting his brains bashed in too.

If Ricky is indeed a free agent, the courts will uphold his right to pursue his career with whosoever he wishes, after all, he's not an indentured worker.

If however, Warren DOES have a watertight agreement, the courts will undoubtedly tell the Hattons that they either have to pay him off to get out of contract or stay put.

I have it on very good authority that what Warren refers to as an agreement is not binding in any way shape or form

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Sep 2005, 10:44

Well, I'm sure we will find out soon enough.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 10:45

The sooner the better I'm all Hatton'ed out at the moment.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 07 Sep 2005, 11:00

If Fwank wins the battle for Wrickay - what odds he puts Witter in with Hatton on the 3rd fight knowing full well Witter could knock him out?.

BunglesFingers · Post by **BunglesFingers** » 07 Sep 2005, 11:12

I think that Hatton would be more worried about being thrown in with the likes of Mayweather that Witter

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 07 Sep 2005, 11:26

DG. wrote:If Fwank wins the battle for Wrickay - what odds he puts Witter in with Hatton on the 3rd fight knowing full well Witter could knock him out?.

Hatton would bully Witter.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Sep 2005, 11:34

I tend to agree...Witter needs time and space to wing in those big shots. Hatton would be on him like white on rice, and Witter doesn't like pressure.

He'd have to stop Hatton early otherwise he'd run out of gas and get clobbered.

BunglesFingers · Post by **BunglesFingers** » 07 Sep 2005, 11:53

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I tend to agree...Witter needs time and space to wing in those big shots. Hatton would be on him like white on rice, and Witter doesn't like pressure.

He'd have to stop Hatton early otherwise he'd run out of gas and get clobbered.

I'm sure we'd all love to see it though! If Hatton fights in Sheffield and Witter is ringside I hope he behaves himself rather than mouthing off and acting like a numpty. He may get his shot.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 11:57

Ding_Ding wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:I tend to agree...Witter needs time and space to wing in those big shots. Hatton would be on him like white on rice, and Witter doesn't like pressure.

He'd have to stop Hatton early otherwise he'd run out of gas and get clobbered.
I'm sure we'd all love to see it though! If Hatton fights in Sheffield and Witter is ringside I hope he behaves himself rather than mouthing off and acting like a numpty. He may get his shot.

I think he's calmed down a bit I don't see him trying to barge into Hatton's post fight interview again. Mind you that was as much Sky's fault as Witter's they engineered that no doubt.

BunglesFingers · Post by **BunglesFingers** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:01

It may have been engineered by Sky but at least JW now knows it's not the way to do things (hopefully)

states · Post by **states** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:05

Was it the Hutchinson fight, up in Newcastle, where Hatton climbed the ropes at the end and shouted "You're fornicating next" to Junior? Or have I imagined that?

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:07

And Hatton had a Witter fight written into a contract with Warrenl but it never happened did it?

Crying shame, those two outdoors at the old Maine Road or City of Manchester stadium would have been a huge event.

And it still could be but I feel the momentum for that fight has been lost a bit.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:13

Witter would have beaten Hatton at one time but it seems now that Ricky just rushes too hard. Witter needs an electric performance in world class and I'm not sure we're going to see it.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:15

Imagine the intensity those two would bring into the ring against each other, it would be a brilliant fight. I would still give Witter a change against Hatton, he can whack with the best of them if he timed one of Hatton's rushes right he could decapitate him! Obviously Hatton would be a favourite if it materialised but 60-40 at best in my opinion.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:18

I used to think so too, but recently Hatton has digested right hand bombs from Kostya Tszyu, while last time out Witter looked anything but a puncher. It was a miserable performance, even his jabs were missing the target.

Junior really needs to do something spectacular now.

DG. · Post by **DG.** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:21

Ding_Ding wrote:I think that Hatton would be more worried about being thrown in with the likes of Mayweather that Witter

But would fwan be able to pay Mayweather?. NO!

He could pay Witter and possibly see Hattin knocked out?.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:22

I think its a different fight, whereas Tszyu was facing Hatton head on Witter would use lateral movement to slip Hatton's charges and counter. Those shots from funny angles you dont see coming are the ones that hurt. I think its a tough fight for Hatton for 5 or 6 rounds then its his fight.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:31

My last post on this one Nick I promise

. I just don't think Witter is smart enough nor strong enough not to get bullied by Hatton from round 1. If you were talking about Floyd Mayweather who can pull off just about any defensive/offensive move you care to wish for then yes I'd agree. But Witter is way way behind Mayweather. He could never have stood centre ring and smacked up Gatti for 6 rounds with ease, while barely taking a single shot.

Mayweather v Hatton is the big fight, I really hope to god it happens.

mrbassie · Post by **mrbassie** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:36

states wrote:Was it the Hutchinson fight, up in Newcastle, where Hatton climbed the ropes at the end and shouted "You're fornicating next" to Junior? Or have I imagined that?

I think it was, he threw his gumshield at him too.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:37

Thats definitely a possibility I have to concede.

I think Mayweather will beat Hatton handily, exactly for your reasoning. His defence and combinations are outstanding. That sixth round against Gatti was something else.

Will try and upload it to give some of you a look that might not have seen it.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:39

nickd wrote:
That sixth round against Gatti was something else.

Will try and upload it to give some of you a look that might not have seen it.

Yeah, watching that sixth round brought back memories of a prime Sugar Ray Leonard - awesome.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:41

MightyWarrior wrote:
nickd wrote:
That sixth round against Gatti was something else.

Will try and upload it to give some of you a look that might not have seen it.
Yeah, watching that sixth round brought back memories of a prime Sugar Ray Leonard - awesome.

Granted Gatti was a bit of a catcher, but his slipping and upper body movement then 3 or 4 punch combos were outstanding I have not seen a fighter doing that in a long time.

I dont see anyone beating Mayweather 147 or below. Only when he ventures higher can I see him getting beaten. Seriously.