Virgil Hill

numpty · Post by **numpty** » 08 Sep 2005, 08:32

Seems this guy is fighting for the WBA cruiserweight title again!! At 41!!

What happened to JM Mormeck, he only just won that title and now it is vacant again?!

Hill should've stuck to his retirement plan but I think he has a good chance against the Russian guy he is fighting..

states · Post by **states** » 08 Sep 2005, 08:38

Mormeck is now WBA 'super champion' as he holds more than one belt, which means the regular title is available for the WBA to screw more sanction fees out of people.

numpty · Post by **numpty** » 08 Sep 2005, 08:49

Ahh, so that is why Chris John is Featherweight champ etc! Kind of down grades the normal champ then really it is more of an interim belt then!

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 08 Sep 2005, 10:34

numpty wrote:Ahh, so that is why Chris John is Featherweight champ etc! Kind of down grades the normal champ then really it is more of an interim belt then!

How VERY dare you!

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 08 Sep 2005, 11:25

reminds me when Hopkins' WBA title was split to accommodate Joppy. wish Mormeck would do what Hopkins did to Joppy & hammer & humiliate him for it.

Funny thing is Mormeck already battered Hill into submission and won a surprisingly tough rematch! Would be funny if he found a way to Hill III although obviously it's besides King's and the WBA's point.

Whatever, let's hope this doesn't stop all these excellent top 10 guys from fighting each other. Hopefully Showtime don't endorse this nonsense, as they are supposed to only approve the best available fights.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Sep 2005, 11:29

This guy Hill is fighting looks useful. http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=015182

Fair enough Hill getting a title shot to celebrate his centenary year! Seems like he's been around forever.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 08 Sep 2005, 13:04

I brought this up on the current scene. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is the WBA ruled by headless emus or something. If you have an undisputed champion of the world, you can't have another world champion. You're just admitting the 2nd guy is 2nd best. Absolute farce and it should be stopped.

And Virgil Hill retired after he lost to Mormeck. Now I wonder what's brought him out of retirement???

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 08 Sep 2005, 13:34

jomothepure wrote:I brought this up on the current scene. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is the WBA ruled by headless emus or something. If you have an undisputed champion of the world, you can't have another world champion. You're just admitting the 2nd guy is 2nd best. Absolute farce and it should be stopped.

And Virgil Hill retired after he lost to Mormeck. Now I wonder what's brought him out of retirement???

This WBA Super Champ nonsense is old news they have been doing it for a while now.

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 08 Sep 2005, 13:38

nickd wrote:
jomothepure wrote:I brought this up on the current scene. It's absolutely ridiculous. Is the WBA ruled by headless emus or something. If you have an undisputed champion of the world, you can't have another world champion. You're just admitting the 2nd guy is 2nd best. Absolute farce and it should be stopped.

And Virgil Hill retired after he lost to Mormeck. Now I wonder what's brought him out of retirement???
This WBA Super Champ nonsense is old news they have been doing it for a while now.

Yeah I know. Doesn't make it any better tho

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 08 Sep 2005, 13:40

Hill deserves this fight, he ran Mormeck VERY close.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 08 Sep 2005, 20:08

stujones wrote:Hill deserves this fight, he ran Mormeck VERY close.

Apparently he trained like never before for that rematch - having had to cut weight the first time round.

A fit Hill is still someone to be reckoned with, as his main skill is working with that left jab.

He could still expose a few pretenders if he comes in in top shape, despite having been around forever.

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 08 Sep 2005, 20:12

Just looked at this Russian's record. He's never been past 8 rounds and is fighting for a 'world' title. Cool.

Raff The Frenchman · Post by **Raff The Frenchman** » 09 Sep 2005, 03:23

i admit Hill gave Mormeck a much tougher rematch compared to their 1st bout where Mormeck really pummeled him...still Mormeck never was put in trouble during their rematch...Mormeck floored Hill who nevertheless suffered and was at least 3 points behind Mormeck...but from what i've seen in Mormeck's bout against Braithwaite, Mormeck has improved a LOT and is even bigger and stronger, Hill would get killed in another rematch with Mormeck...

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 09 Sep 2005, 03:33

Can anyone remember what the last unification match were that didnt have the WBA champ as one of the boxers?

Manos de Oro · Post by **Manos de Oro** » 09 Sep 2005, 05:04

Freiheit wrote:Can anyone remember what the last unification match were that didnt have the WBA champ as one of the boxers?

Maybe DLH - Trinidad? Julio Diaz stepping up to face Castillo was a 'virtual' WBC/IBF unification, but if I remember right Diaz had to vacate it beforehand due to some red-tape nonsense from the 'sanctioning body'.

That's a good question though, because the WBA seem to be involved in the majority of unifications.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 09 Sep 2005, 08:37

The next one will be Barrera v Peden.

Will have a think at to the last one.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 09 Sep 2005, 08:38

Castillo - Corales

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 09 Sep 2005, 09:00

Raff The Frenchman wrote:i admit Hill gave Mormeck a much tougher rematch compared to their 1st bout where Mormeck really pummeled him...still Mormeck never was put in trouble during their rematch...Mormeck floored Hill who nevertheless suffered and was at least 3 points behind Mormeck...but from what i've seen in Mormeck's bout against Braithwaite, Mormeck has improved a LOT and is even bigger and stronger, Hill would get killed in another rematch with Mormeck...

Hill did ok in the rematch, but Mormeck was always ahead plus he knocked him over. I don't think it should've been scored as close as it was. JMM was a little raw & he learned a lot against the veteran.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 09 Sep 2005, 09:13

Morales v Hernandez was for the WBC & IBF.

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 09 Sep 2005, 10:25

This superchampion stuff is total shit though!. Now we have two or three WBA champs at the same weight!. Sickening!. Its just greed, pure greed!.