Is Tyson Fury unfairly criticised?

[moorser]

Because he is from Irish traveller stock, Irish travellers are the most discriminated group in Britain and this is the reason Fury gets more stick than any fighter, its no coincidence!!

[J]

and they dont do anythign ever at all to become targets for criticism...no smoke without fire.

ask Henry wharton.

[TJ77]

Because he is from Irish traveller stock, Irish travellers are the most discriminated group in Britain and this is the reason Fury gets more stick than any fighter, its no coincidence!!

No its cos he ducked Price and still banging on he'll fight any man which clearly he wont .

[Jon Saxon]

[quote="moorser"]Because he is from Irish traveller stock, Irish travellers are the most discriminated group in Britain quote]


Yeah right!

There is a strong criminal culture running through their viens...i.e. loads of tacky crims.

[ShadrachSimmo]

Because he is from Irish traveller stock, Irish travellers are the most discriminated group in Britain and this is the reason Fury gets more stick than any fighter, its no coincidence!!

Coincidence? He could be a Welsh-Portugese-Norse Heathen and people would still be saying the same.

[Stevolad]

He is levels below Haye but as I said in other threads the lad is only 23 years old!! Let him learn his trade and his time will come, he is in better condition every fight and looking like he is improving with every fight... slowly slowly catchy monkey as they say

[davie]

To say tyson is unfairly critisised implies he recieves critisism that is unmeritted at the time it is levelled at him.
That is not the case.
Tyson recieves critisism and praise as and when they are deserved (certainly from me anyway)
When he fights an opponent that is regarded a good step up at the time or fights a fighter that match the boast he is making, he'll get praise. when he fights a fighter that is a step backwards or indeed isn't anywhere near the level he is expected to be operating at he will take a bit of stick.
when he fought John Mcdermot in his 8th pro fight and Derek Chisora in his 15th he was rightly praised for moving on at a good rate and taking on good fights at an early age while other guys like price are taking it slower (some may even have been critical of his camp for pushing him on a little too fast for a 22 year old at the time)
where as, when he is ranked by some, himself included, as a top ten fighter and is already throwing his name in the ring for a klitschko, then he goes and fights a guy that can in no way be considered a step forward from chisora 4 fights earlier, he will hear a bit of critisism.

Equally, in terms of performance, preparation, attitude and fitness he gets critisised when he deserves it and praise when he earns it.
I watched him against Pajkic and he was out of shape coming into the fight, started of sloppily and looked distracted, as a result he ended up on his backside. he then bucked up his ideas and pummeled the guy as he should have done. What really got me was when he stepped out of the ring and made a remark about how he likes to leave it late to gey started as it makes for a more interesting fight. his head was clearly not in the right place coming into that fight and it took him being planted on his arse to realise that. this isn't a sport where you coast a couple rounds before you start trying, especially not in with the big boys. he looked a million miles from the guy that dominated chisora.

Where as at the weekend, regardless of the standard of opponent, tyson came in looking in really good shape, well prepared, clearly had a game plan and stuck to it well, his movement was good, hand speed was good, he countered brilliantly and threw combinations. he looked like everything a 6'9" heavywieght usually doesn't. he was sharp, fast and hardly got hit.
that tyson fury will give david price real headaches, that tyson fury will challenge for world titles.
That tyson has recieved praise (the level of opponent aside) and rightly so
and if he keeps preparing professionally, getting in great shape and looking so sharp and slick in the ring, then this boxing fan will keep singing his praises!

[davie]

He is levels below Haye but as I said in other threads the lad is only 23 years old!! Let him learn his trade and his time will come, he is in better condition every fight and looking like he is improving with every fight... slowly slowly catchy monkey as they say

A few have said he is looking in better condition in every fight
that has been the case in his last 2 outings but it's not like it's been an ongoing steady progression.
As i said in my last post, to say he improved from chisora to the fights against Firtha and Pajkic, in terms of conditioning, preparation, mental state or performance is not the case.
Many people have concerns that fury isn't completely wired up right and worry that he may just start giving a monkeys at times. i think he went about things all wrong after chisora

He deserves a great deal of credit for his recent improvement in shape and level of performance.
And i will personally forgive him for taking his time working through opponents. the last thing we need is to see is one of our most promising talents, in against a top name he is not ready for.
And now that he has gone back to showing us that he is a genuinely promising young fighter, i'd actually preffer to wait to see the fury vs price showdown, because i believe both guys have it in them to go on to operate at world level. i'd like to see those two square off for something more important than the brittish title one day.
I personally think price will edge this one, but as we've seen, with that right hand, price doesn't do 'edging' decisions. the last thing i think fury needs is being sparked out.
If theres one thing i don't think fury might have in his arsenal is the mental toughness to come back from a bad defeat, certainly not before he gets to the highest level.

[davie]

He is levels below Haye but as I said in other threads the lad is only 23 years old!! Let him learn his trade and his time will come, he is in better condition every fight and looking like he is improving with every fight... slowly slowly catchy monkey as they say

A few have said he is looking in better condition in every fight
that has been the case in his last 2 outings but it's not like it's been an ongoing steady progression.
As i said in my last post, to say he improved from chisora to the fights against Firtha and Pajkic, in terms of conditioning, preparation, mental state or performance is not the case.
Many people have concerns that fury isn't completely wired up right and worry that he may just start giving a monkeys at times. i think he went about things all wrong after chisora

He deserves a great deal of credit for his recent improvement in shape and level of performance.
And i will personally forgive him for taking his time working through opponents. the last thing we need is to see is one of our most promising talents, in against a top name he is not ready for.
And now that he has gone back to showing us that he is a genuinely promising young fighter, i'd actually preffer to wait to see the fury vs price showdown, because i believe both guys have it in them to go on to operate at world level. i'd like to see those two square off for something more important than the brittish title one day.
I personally think price will edge this one, but as we've seen, with that right hand, price doesn't do 'edging' decisions. the last thing i think fury needs is being sparked out.
If theres one thing i don't think fury might have in his arsenal is the mental toughness to come back from a bad defeat, certainly not before he gets to the highest level.

[mickey1975]

He is levels below Haye but as I said in other threads the lad is only 23 years old!! Let him learn his trade and his time will come, he is in better condition every fight and looking like he is improving with every fight... slowly slowly catchy monkey as they say

Exactly. Haye was stopped by the 40 years old Carl Thompson at that age.