fatcity69 wrote:I cant belive people are just writing off Murray in this fight!. Harrison has not had a proper 'fight' against a qulaity opponent for 6 years and is a natural feather and it being thrown in with a guy who despite his flaws is one of the best lightweights in Europe.... this is a gimme for Murray... look for Harrison to start good and then fade and be stopped in about 7 or 8 rounds. Really dissapointed that Harrison is being handled like this, basically he is being thrown to the wolves, a short cut to a deadend alley for Harrison...
If Scott had 3 or 4 more quick bouts it would make it a bit more of a bout, but straight after a bum fight into a scrap with John Murray is gonna just write him off.
Say he loses badly.... He will fall off that wagon in spectacular fashion.
That is the big worry for me, if and when Harrisson looses, where does he go? Back to the bottle I think.
G0mez wrote:Say he loses badly.... He will fall off that wagon in spectacular fashion.
That could happen if he wins, draws, whatever. Something completely outside of boxing could well cause him to fall of the wagon. I hope not, but alchoholism is a very delicate thing.
fatcity69 wrote:I cant belive people are just writing off Murray in this fight!. Harrison has not had a proper 'fight' against a qulaity opponent for 6 years and is a natural feather and it being thrown in with a guy who despite his flaws is one of the best lightweights in Europe.... this is a gimme for Murray... look for Harrison to start good and then fade and be stopped in about 7 or 8 rounds. Really dissapointed that Harrison is being handled like this, basically he is being thrown to the wolves, a short cut to a deadend alley for Harrison...
Agree people are crazy to write Murray off, but Harrison wants the short cut back to the top, if he does loose he can just say it was a step to far to quick and come back abit more gradual after, his age doesn't give him much of a choice really to being fast tracked, I still believe it's a 50/50 fight !
If a loss will send Harrison back to the bottle (IF!) then it has to happen at some point. What do people want him to do, fight a bum every time until he is 90!?!
winkveron wrote:If a loss will send Harrison back to the bottle (IF!) then it has to happen at some point. What do people want him to do, fight a bum every time until he is 90!?!
he didn't seem to mind doing that in his 'first' boxing career, let me see now, featherweights on the scene Barrera Morales Marquez, featherweights he actually fought, Manuel Medina in his 95th failed attempt to gain a wortld title, ummm the fistic great Victor Polo, ummm, some bloke called Chacon?
Regardless of how hard he's trained in the past few months, or how hard he's going to train in the build-up to the fight, Harrison simply isnt going to have the necessary conditioning to last 10 full, hard competitive rounds.
people can say "who has scott fought", but a closer look at murrays record isnt that impressive either. its all domestics and a few europatsys. he gets too much credit cos hes tough and brave. its hardly like hes hard to find and he tends to make every fight a life or death battle lately. marks up REALLY easy and doesnt live the life.
also, seeing as they have sparred together, maybe scott feels he simply has his number or knows something we dont.
obv. just playing devils advocate, we wont know untill scott gets hit will we? That 10 year old boy he beat told us nothing. I can see it being a classic.
If Scott has got it this fight will tell us - he's gone beyond being able to be 'built up'. At this stage its a great opportunity for him and a good fight.
If he takes a shelling for 4 or 5 rounds pull him out. No waste in seeing what he's got.
Murray - brave, likeable but just shy of world class and certainly not a monster.
If Scott has got it this fight will tell us - he's gone beyond being able to be 'built up'. At this stage its a great opportunity for him and a good fight.
If he takes a shelling for 4 or 5 rounds pull him out. No waste in seeing what he's got.
Murray - brave, likeable but just shy of world class and certainly not a monster.
This is a very good fight IMO
I agree. If Harrison and his team think he's ready and its worth the gamble, this is a fast track to bigger fights and pay days. As I've said in earlier posts, I think Harrison should have had at least another 2 fights before taking this huge step up in class. The fact that most people think Murray is on the slide and Harrison is still much of an unknown quantity make this fight all the more exciting. This has fight of the year written all over it while it lasts. I wouldn't bet on either man outright but ill be staking big on it not going the distance. Really looking forward to this promotion.
Wales wrote:I hope the bookies are as generous in picking Harrison as you guys. I reckon Murray will smash him to pieces.
Seconded. One swallow doesn't make her my girlfriend. And one half decent performance in his comeabck fight doesn't mean Harrison is anywhere near the fighter he was.
Harrison was always a class act in the ring but with his time out and abuse, a warm up against a teenage, Bulgarian novice is not enough to even get back into top domestic class, Murray will need to have slipped badly for the Scot to win
Surely if it's true this is some chance for John and Scott withwinner fighting ricky?
Either way IMO ricky beats both,as I've said Before none of the UK lightweight are in the same leauge has Ricky Burns,I know it's hard for some people to accept but it's true!
Surely if it's true this is some chance for John and Scott withwinner fighting ricky?
Either way IMO ricky beats both,as I've said Before none of the UK lightweight are in the same leauge has Ricky Burns,I know it's hard for some people to accept but it's true!
Mitchell is a better fighter then Ricky can dream off, my point will be proven come 22nd of September, I feel you find that hard to except but it's true
Really cant see How Mithcell beats burns
Cant see him catching him with anything meanifull to stop him or regular to outwork him , Burns long range jab and body hooks will be catching him all night i think.
only time can really see burns getting hit is when he sits on ropes with gaurd up and mitchell maybe get through with odd straight right when doubled up , but burns doesnt give much away even when on the ropes
Gazmac81 wrote:Really cant see How Mithcell beats burns
Cant see him catching him with anything meanifull to stop him or regular to outwork him , Burns long range jab and body hooks will be catching him all night i think.
only time can really see burns getting hit is when he sits on ropes with gaurd up and mitchell maybe get through with odd straight right when doubled up , but burns doesnt give much away even when on the ropes
Still its going to be some night
Hopefully Harrison in decent test too
I agree, even with Billy who would have you believe Burns would beat a prime Ali! Burns has too many minerals for Kev, i suspect.
Surely if it's true this is some chance for John and Scott withwinner fighting ricky?
Either way IMO ricky beats both,as I've said Before none of the UK lightweight are in the same leauge has Ricky Burns,I know it's hard for some people to accept but it's true!
Mitchell is a better fighter then Ricky can dream off, my point will be proven come 22nd of September, I feel you find that hard to except but it's true
We will see come the 22nd you will be full of praise for Ricky on the 23rd he looking great in the gym and so up for this fight it's unreal
In a development of such a hugely unpredictably nature that it can only be described as an act of god, a tasty FW triple-header has been reduced down to one of the announced matches.
