Opening a pro-am gym questions.....
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Jeff Thomas
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Opening a pro-am gym questions.....
Hi folks- just trying to get this sorted. What are the rules regarding training times etc? Has anyone had any experience with this set up - does it cost more?
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fightacademy
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i have a pro am gym we train at different times and yes its more expensive to have a pro am gym
Stefy Bull
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Why don't you get a crossfit gym there is a massive market there . Don't mix what you love with business if you can jeff
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Jeff Thomas
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Not about making money mate - I already do well as a PThurlock wrote:Why don't you get a crossfit gym there is a massive market there . Don't mix what you love with business if you can jeff
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Good on you. Is this at Poulton? Do you have any cruisers/heavies?Jeff Thomas wrote:Not about making money mate
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Good Luck with it Jeff, 
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the patriot
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fightacademy wrote:i have a pro am gym we train at different times and yes its more expensive to have a pro am gym
Stefy Bull
Out of interest, why would it be more expensive to run a pro-am gym as opposed to one or the other??
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Looking On
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the patriot wrote:fightacademy wrote:i have a pro am gym we train at different times and yes its more expensive to have a pro am gym
Stefy Bull
Out of interest, why would it be more expensive to run a pro-am gym as opposed to one or the other??
They can train at same times if you want them to though , dont HAVE to be seperate just whichever seems to work best for each individual gym .
and its more expensive as you have to register with the aba as well as getting the pro licenses etc , along with associated costs such as amateur kit .
Probably be a good idea to have an assistant trainer put through the aba course so that you can spend time with pros who need it without it being of any detriment to the amateurs .
Also nothing to stop you having lads there who box unlicensed but of course cant do any cornering for them and they cant do unlicensed while registered amateur etc , obviously.
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Jeff Thomas
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Cheers stefyfightacademy wrote:i have a pro am gym we train at different times and yes its more expensive to have a pro am gym
Stefy Bull
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Jeff Thomas
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Thanks mateAlba wrote:Good Luck with it Jeff,
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RonnieTheSharkClark
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Amateurs gym gets better funding and grant and such where as pro get nothing... A pro trainer don't get paid just 10% of a fighters purse normally... Ha... Pro boxing is a joke also how I got involved I don't have a clue :(
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Hey mate, shame you feel like that but will you feel like that when you get decent paydays (which i hope you do)?RonnieTheSharkClark wrote:Amateurs gym gets better funding and grant and such where as pro get nothing... A pro trainer don't get paid just 10% of a fighters purse normally... Ha... Pro boxing is a joke also how I got involved I don't have a clue :(
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shame that, i don't know enough to be honest, i'm just gutted that a pro boxer (ronnie) feels that way. Says a lot about the sport.billy bessey wrote:Ronnies got a point the only decent non corrupt(mainly) boxing is amateur sooo many people regret turning pro the only thing that spoils the amateurs is the headguards(which they're getting rid of I think) and mainly the poor picky refs who just love the sound of their own voicesCrazyboy wrote:Hey mate, shame you feel like that but will you feel like that when you get decent paydays (which i hope you do)?RonnieTheSharkClark wrote:Amateurs gym gets better funding and grant and such where as pro get nothing... A pro trainer don't get paid just 10% of a fighters purse normally... Ha... Pro boxing is a joke also how I got involved I don't have a clue :(
That been said, Ronnie, you call it a joke but if you all of a sudden start earning money out of it (Proper money) would you still call it a joke? (Honest question)
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Ronnie's biggest gripe with the sport at the moment is the match-making process.RonnieTheSharkClark wrote:Amateurs gym gets better funding and grant and such where as pro get nothing... A pro trainer don't get paid just 10% of a fighters purse normally... Ha... Pro boxing is a joke also how I got involved I don't have a clue :(
He's all for testing himself against the best prospects out there in the UK, and unfortunately for him most promoters/managers choose to match their prospects intelligently for the first year or so after turning over.
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RonnieTheSharkClark
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If I'm honest I just want REAL fights... I don't understand the avoiding people! I ain't rich but I don't fight for money either I just like to fight and wanna be the best... :s I wouldn't complain if I got a good wage of course for fighting because would mean I was active... I love the fact I get paid for what I do obviously but I hate being inactive and not knowing what's happening from one day to the next... Is queensbury boxing league gonna be the way forward?!
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Just out of curiosity Ronnie. Do you sell a lot of tickets?RonnieTheSharkClark wrote:If I'm honest I just want REAL fights... I don't understand the avoiding people! I ain't rich but I don't fight for money either I just like to fight and wanna be the best... :s I wouldn't complain if I got a good wage of course for fighting because would mean I was active... I love the fact I get paid for what I do obviously but I hate being inactive and not knowing what's happening from one day to the next... Is queensbury boxing league gonna be the way forward?!
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RonnieTheSharkClark
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I sold 70 at my last fight away from home... I done 150 at my fight before in Dundee... I will do over 200 for my next one in Dundee... I'm building a good fan base but gotta be busier I think :)
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If your selling that many tickets then getting fights shouldnt be a problem , i think the problem will be the promoters will want to protect that little bit of extra income your sales are generating , thus having to box lesser opponents .RonnieTheSharkClark wrote:I sold 70 at my last fight away from home... I done 150 at my fight before in Dundee... I will do over 200 for my next one in Dundee... I'm building a good fan base but gotta be busier I think :)
If your selling 70 as an away fighter then to me that may be your best way of getting meaningful fights , but you have more chance of not getting the rub of the green etc then , many lads dont sell 70 for home fights to be honest .
How far away was your away fight ? if you was boxing in somewhere like manchester would you sell enough to get matched , over around 60 , or maybe fight a bigger name etc etc
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RonnieTheSharkClark
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Fighting away would be fine! If I fight away the problem is they have me fighting on short notice and it's hard to sell tickets as people have work and children to sort out... If I had a big fight in England I could sell alot of tickets with the correct notice... I know promoters want to give fighters as least notice as possible so the home fighter has a better chance but I'm as fit as GOD... Best give me full notice I will still be fit and I will sell the shows... My dream is a s/f prizefighter so I could knock everyone out for dodging me ;)
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I actually think you proberly would do quite well in PF, if it was at your own weight ,be a good way to fast track should you win itRonnieTheSharkClark wrote:Fighting away would be fine! If I fight away the problem is they have me fighting on short notice and it's hard to sell tickets as people have work and children to sort out... If I had a big fight in England I could sell alot of tickets with the correct notice... I know promoters want to give fighters as least notice as possible so the home fighter has a better chance but I'm as fit as GOD... Best give me full notice I will still be fit and I will sell the shows... My dream is a s/f prizefighter so I could knock everyone out for dodging me ;)
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RonnieTheSharkClark
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Would be sure if I was in it alba that ur chum would not risk any his fighters against me ;)
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Jeff Thomas
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Re: Opening a pro-am gym questions.....
Has anyone got a checklist of what is and isn't allowed in the gyms - the abae website is a maze
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Jeff Thomas
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Ie radius to other clubs etc