bengulnaci1 wrote:If he was honest, I think he would class himself as Jamaican by ethnicity and Canadian, as his country. It all came done to money, as to why he choose to turn pro under the British banner.
His alligences are to Canada and Jamaica. I am sure I read somewhere where he is quoted as saying pretty much this.
There is no such thing as Jamaican 'ethnicity' though, he would be broadly classified as an
Afro-Caribbean. His nationality could be Jamaican though if it wasn't for the fact he was born
and raised in London and has a British passport - unless he has revoked his citizenship.
The point I was attempting to make (albeit, clumsily) was that he is Canadian at heart. He's more Jamaican than he is British.
The issue, for me, wasn't whether he had whatever passport but what he feels his identity is.
Quixall wrote:This thread seems to have turned into some kind of politically correct dogma, where people are going out of there way to refute that the fact that patriotism exists in all sporting fields. We can all come up with people who were born in other countries but have lived their lives in this country from a few months or years old. The fact is that most of the most people can view sporting figures and teams and appreciate them eitther because they are simply good at what they do OR because they represent your country. It all seems a bit wishy washy to me, with people trying their upmost not to offend anyone.
Oh pardon me Geoffrey Boycott, sorry for breathing! There is nothing complicated about this
one I am afraid - if someone was born and lived life for the first 12 years in England then he is
English. It can't get simpler. He is hardly Bob Hope or Bob Fitzsimmons.
I don't think you read my post correctly, you seem to be agreeing with me and at the same time railing against me.......
Nothing complicated lol.......Oh the irony Have you actually read the posts on this thread ? Complicated is the word.
That was the whole point of my post.
Your post made no sense and is badly written nonsense.
When the term 'Politically Correct' is used, that flatlines my brain admittedly. If you re-write it again into something that makes sense then I might agree with you.
bengulnaci1 wrote:If he was honest, I think he would class himself as Jamaican by ethnicity and Canadian, as his country. It all came done to money, as to why he choose to turn pro under the British banner.
His alligences are to Canada and Jamaica. I am sure I read somewhere where he is quoted as saying pretty much this.
There is no such thing as Jamaican 'ethnicity' though, he would be broadly classified as an
Afro-Caribbean. His nationality could be Jamaican though if it wasn't for the fact he was born
and raised in London and has a British passport - unless he has revoked his citizenship.
The point I was attempting to make (albeit, clumsily) was that he is Canadian at heart. He's more Jamaican than he is British.
The issue, for me, wasn't whether he had whatever passport but what he feels his identity is.
I go along with that and would also say he might have more than one identity which is common in today's globalised world.
clopixolacuphase wrote:He's all three, if that's what he wants. Even though I'm pure bred UK Caucasian I have a multicultural family and if was Multicultural myself I'd claim them all. But the dude was born and spent his childhood in England. He may have spent years in Canada and he may have West Indian roots, but he was born here and we're a mongrel nation anyway, especially London. He's English. Or British, if that's fairer. We claim Calzaghe, so the Welsh can claim Lennox
clopixolacuphase wrote:He's all three, if that's what he wants. Even though I'm pure bred UK Caucasian I have a multicultural family and if was Multicultural myself I'd claim them all. But the dude was born and spent his childhood in England. He may have spent years in Canada and he may have West Indian roots, but he was born here and we're a mongrel nation anyway, especially London. He's English. Or British, if that's fairer. We claim Calzaghe, so the Welsh can claim Lennox
Calzaghe was born in London!
True dat! I forgot. Calzags is English! We let the Welsh claim him!
Anyway, didn't he make a big deal of being Italian? So is Joe Calzaghe Welsh, English or Italian?
I'd say he was British as he was born in Britain, and raised in Britain until he was 12. The fact that the Canadians let him represent them just because he lived there at the time doesn't really make much difference to me.
But then, it's not really up to me. Does it really matter where any of us consider Lennox Lewis to be from? It's not like Lennox is going to be reading this going; "I'll consider myself to be from the country the majority of people at Boxrec say I'm from...."
Your post made no sense and is badly written nonsense.
When the term 'Politically Correct' is used, that flatlines my brain admittedly. If you re-write it again into something that makes sense then I might agree with you.
I would imagine that flatlining your brain wouldn't be that hard.................
If you think my post made no sense and was nonesense, then your definately in the right club. Welcome friend
lennox lewis is british imo,i know he went away and learned his trade in canada but so what? the pro game is a business and he and frank maloney used their business brains and made the best money they could at that time. after he got beat by mcCall he had to go the states to perfect his style of boxing,if he had stayed in britain he would never of reclaimed the titles imo
Quixall wrote:Your post made no sense and is badly written nonsense.
When the term 'Politically Correct' is used, that flatlines my brain admittedly. If you re-write it again into something that makes sense then I might agree with you.
I would imagine that flatlining your brain wouldn't be that hard.................
If you think my post made no sense and was nonesense, then your definately in the right club. Welcome friend
Have you actually read the posts on this thread ? Complicated is the word.
