Fernando Vargas vs . Paul Williams

[Vladimir5555]

I think Vargas win by TKO early rounds

[gilgamesh]

I do think a prime Vargas would be a big, big problem for Paul Williams. He would definitely be able to shove him around the ring and get him on the ropes and work him over a lot. It's conceivable he could rattle Paul early, but I think Paul would stay up...so I do think Vargas' sheer aggression in the early rounds would give him a big advantage on the cards after 4 rounds. After that I think Paul knowing he's behind would change his tactic and start using his reach and height more to outbox Vargas and he would for a fair number of rounds, I could see Vargas taking a few more rounds down the stretch though and with a possible knockdown thrown in. Who knows.

I see a Split Decision in this fight...could go either way, but I'd favor Vargas by a hair.

[SenorPipino]

A strong Margarito wore down a tiring Williams in the late rounds and probably deserved a close decision.
An also strong Vargas, with quicker hands than Margarito and better movement, would probably do the same thing.
But he'd start getting to Williams earlier en route to a 9th round KO.

[Bobbyptsd]

Williams UD

Williams was relatively fast, had respectable power and threw tons of shots, while having(usually) a granite chin.

I don't think Vargas had anything to really hurt him with, I don't think he outboxes or outworks him.

[Rover]

Williams UD

Williams was relatively fast, had respectable power and threw tons of shots, while having(usually) a granite chin.

I don't think Vargas had anything to really hurt him with, I don't think he outboxes or outworks him.

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I only ever saw Williams hurt at MW.

[Rover]

A strong Margarito wore down a tiring Williams in the late rounds and probably deserved a close decision.
An also strong Vargas, with quicker hands than Margarito and better movement, would probably do the same thing.
But he'd start getting to Williams earlier en route to a 9th round KO.

With Marg, though, the discovery a year and a half later must be kept in mind in evaluating prior results. Also, I had that fight for Williams.

[Bobbyptsd]

Yeah that's a funny post. Saying "probably deserved a close decision" is pretty much tantamount to saying "probably could have gone either way"

[RadioElRadar]

A strong Margarito wore down a tiring Williams in the late rounds and probably deserved a close decision.
An also strong Vargas, with quicker hands than Margarito and better movement, would probably do the same thing.
But he'd start getting to Williams earlier en route to a 9th round KO.

With Marg, though, the discovery a year and a half later must be kept in mind in evaluating prior results. Also, I had that fight for Williams.

I had it for Williams too. Although Margarito came on well in the second half, I thought P-Dub won it clearly. I've never really seen anyone question it tbh.

The hand-wraps uncertainty just makes it look like an even better win.

I'd take Williams by a 7-5-type decision v Vargas, not accounting for knockdowns.

[Vladimir5555]

I think Vargas in his youth was hitting much harder than Margarito.Vargas саn brock Williams his punches to the head and to the body.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Williams by UD, too active. It would be a war though.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

A strong Margarito wore down a tiring Williams in the late rounds and probably deserved a close decision.

No he didn't deserve that decision. He did well in the second half, until the final round. Paul absolutely won the 12th with room to spare. I had it 8-4, but if Margarito would have done anything in the last round a draw would have been acceptable.

[Rover]

A strong Margarito wore down a tiring Williams in the late rounds and probably deserved a close decision.
An also strong Vargas, with quicker hands than Margarito and better movement, would probably do the same thing.
But he'd start getting to Williams earlier en route to a 9th round KO.

With Marg, though, the discovery a year and a half later must be kept in mind in evaluating prior results. Also, I had that fight for Williams.

I had it for Williams too. Although Margarito came on well in the second half, I thought P-Dub won it clearly. I've never really seen anyone question it tbh.

The hand-wraps uncertainty just makes it look like an even better win.

I'd take Williams by a 7-5-type decision v Vargas, not accounting for knockdowns.

I'm saying for anyone who thought he won. I had it 116-112 Paul.

[Rover]

I think Vargas in his youth was hitting much harder than Margarito.Vargas саn brock Williams his punches to the head and to the body.

Vargas wasn't a big one punch puncher. In his defenses, he took 11 to stop Marquez and blew out Clark and Thompson. Campas quit after 7. Wright and Quartey went the distance; I have little doubt Paul at 154 could also.