who were the most naturaly gifted british fighters ......

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naz hamed stands out he had amazing reflexs and chilling power also kirkland laing how can you go from beating duran to back to fighting at british level .
so who else had the talent but maybe not the deadication
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Audley Harrison
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John Conteh was brilliant, partying and injuries spoilt his career though, his 15 round decision win over the dangerous Yaqui Lopez with one good hand is one of my favourite old fights.
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banjo wrote:John Conteh was brilliant, partying and injuries spoilt his career though, his 15 round decision win over the dangerous Yaqui Lopez with one good hand is one of my favourite old fights.
i just missed out on seeing conteh at his peak but from what i've read and seen he seemed a great boxer
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I always thought Hamed under achieved badly, he could have been an all time great
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Coco wrote:I always thought Hamed under achieved badly, he could have been an all time great
i agree if naz had stayed with ingle and stopped trying to blast everyone out he could of been a great ,he started as a boxer then became this terrifying puncher but he forgot that it was his defence that allowed him to be in postion to land the big punches .
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stevedoc wrote:
Coco wrote:I always thought Hamed under achieved badly, he could have been an all time great
i agree if naz had stayed with ingle and stopped trying to blast everyone out he could of been a great ,he started as a boxer then became this terrifying puncher but he forgot that it was his defence that allowed him to be in postion to land the big punches .
Worst thing He ever did leaving Brendan, what He had was ingrained.
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banjo wrote:John Conteh was brilliant, partying and injuries spoilt his career though, his 15 round decision win over the dangerous Yaqui Lopez with one good hand is one of my favourite old fights.
Night He smashed all the Cars in the Strand. I spent an Hour trying to get His Car Keys of Him :D
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Bomber Graham was a naturally gifted fighter.
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forcefraser wrote:Bomber Graham was a naturally gifted fighter.
Herol Graham invented Naz.
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forcefraser wrote:Bomber Graham was a naturally gifted fighter.
if only he had a chin,what a boxer herol graham was
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Ken Buchanan was dazzling

Kirkland Laing

Howard Eastman too, a bigger more durable Laing.
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semtexreilly wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Bomber Graham was a naturally gifted fighter.
if only he had a chin,what a boxer herol graham was
????? He didn't have a bad chin. I presume u mean getting ko'd by 1 of he hardest punchers of all time.
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stevieb_8006 wrote:
semtexreilly wrote:
forcefraser wrote:Bomber Graham was a naturally gifted fighter.
if only he had a chin,what a boxer herol graham was
????? He didn't have a bad chin. I presume u mean getting ko'd by 1 of he hardest punchers of all time.
His chin did alright against McCallum, to push him to a split decision and in his career he only got stopped 3 times, 2 towards the end of his career and the Ko you remember was Julian Jackson, who knocked out nearly all his opponents, chilling power,if I remember rightly Graham was dominating him at the time and on verge of stopping him, when caught with a haymaker.
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There was nothing wrong with Herol's chin. Hagler might have got up from that Jackson shot, but I struggle to think of another fighter who would. Herol's problem was threefold, he was heavily avoided because he made everyone look bad, he was on the wrong end of several iffy decisions in his biggest fights, and most of all, he chose to slug against McCallum. I think he won that fight anyway, but if he stayed away, it's a comfortable win,
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Danny Costello? I think that was his name
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SamWise72 wrote:There was nothing wrong with Herol's chin. Hagler might have got up from that Jackson shot, but I struggle to think of another fighter who would. Herol's problem was threefold, he was heavily avoided because he made everyone look bad, he was on the wrong end of several iffy decisions in his biggest fights, and most of all, he chose to slug against McCallum. I think he won that fight anyway, but if he stayed away, it's a comfortable win,
He choose to slug with his hands down as well, showed how tough he was, did not McCallam stop Watson later on as well, not to mention Don Curry,Julian Jackson and the Terrible one, yes Herol Grahams chin was sound.
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Going by the original question, someone who had the talent but not the dedication, them Herol Graham is not in that group, he trained all the time and was dedicated as they come at championship level.
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Joe calzaghe is the most gifted british fighter imo. He had just about everything.
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Colin McMillan was very good and had terrific coordination and just about everything really, Paul Hodkinson struck me as a very natural fighter and Nigel Benn seemed to be born for knocking people out as did Darren Dyer - they weren't fantastic movers but what they did they did very well from the day they started boxing till they packed in.
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I've trained with, sparred and fought with loads and out of everyone the two that stand out are Tony Doherty and Mathew Ellis.
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Jeff Thomas wrote:I've trained with, sparred and fought with loads and out of everyone the two that stand out are Tony Doherty and Mathew Ellis.
It's strange that the most talented didn't really attain what they could have.
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The best I have seen on tv is Conteh, the George Best if boxing, the best live was Calzaghe. And I have seen some fighters... Joe was exceptional.
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rio wrote:Joe calzaghe is the most gifted british fighter imo. He had just about everything.
It will be always argued how good he was because he never faced the best in his prime, I think he had it all.
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Coco wrote:
rio wrote:Joe calzaghe is the most gifted british fighter imo. He had just about everything.
It will be always argued how good he was because he never faced the best in his prime, I think he had it all.
Including the ability to make adjustments as the fight went on, he didn't need to be told which punches to throw or even be given much of a gameplan, you can't teach that.
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