James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Vladimir5555
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James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Who takes it?
Ezzard
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Ward would be in great shape. Who knows about Toney.

I think Toney wins in a best for best scenario but Ward would win more than he lost due to Toney's lack of discipline.
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Ward W12
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Ezzard wrote:Ward would be in great shape. Who knows about Toney.

I think Toney wins in a best for best scenario but Ward would win more than he lost due to Toney's lack of discipline.
I agree here but with both at there best it would be a good fight.
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Best vs Best? Toney would FORCE Andre to fight...and would have the tools to do so. AND could be every bit as slick in return. This is Toney's fight, and I would cover all Ward money.
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Talking about their top conditions, I pick Toney. If prior to the fight Toney would have lost another battle against refrigerator and would have had weight-cut troubles, what could have affected his shape, or whatever, Ward could have easily used that. But talking about primes, I see Toney being a better fighter. James was more elusive, he could provide masterfully executed combinations from the positions, that on the first look could have been better for his opponents. Andre was more good in being viscous, an uncomfortable opponent to anyone on the edge of fouling. But Toney had more of a class, enough to deal with Ward's tricks. They both displayed approximately the same level of rationality, but Toney was more special and polished.
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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The End wrote: 16 Sep 2013, 09:02
Ezzard wrote:Ward would be in great shape. Who knows about Toney.

I think Toney wins in a best for best scenario but Ward would win more than he lost due to Toney's lack of discipline.
I agree here but with both at there best it would be a good fight.
Would it be good?

Would it be entertaining?
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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The only time Toney fought a top 168 fight he lost almost every round.
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Re: James Toney v . Andre Ward at 168

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Lol, the same old blinkered attitude from Keith. Needless to say, Ward never boxed anyone comparable to a peak Roy Jones, so citing Toney's loss to him is hardly relevant. I think Toney would win a dull decision over SOG.
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