British Top 30 P4P November 2013

[Horse]

1. (1.) Carl Froch
2. (2.) Ricky Burns
3. (3.) David Haye
4. (4.) Martin Murray
5. (5.) Darren Barker
6. (6.) Amir Khan
7. (7.) Tyson Fury
8. (8.) George Groves
9. (11.) Kell Brook
10. (15.) Carl Frampton

11. (9.) Tony Bellew
12. (10.) Jamie McDonnell
13. (12.) Ola Afolabi
14. (13.) Nathan Cleverly
15. (19.) Scott Quigg
16. (17.) Lee Selby
17. (14.) Matthew Macklin
18. (16.) Dereck Chisora
19. (18.) James DeGale
20. (23.) Brian Rose

21. (20.) Billy Joe Saunders
22. (21.) Frankie Gavin
23. (22.) Lee Haskins
24. (24.) Derry Mathews
25. (25.) Darren Hamilton
26. (26.) Stephen Smith
27. (27.) Anthony Crolla
28. (28.) Gavin Rees
29. (29.) Andy Lee (Irish)
30. (30.) John Simpson

[Horse]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

[n1ebf]

Any comments/criticisms of the British Top 30 P4P list are very welcome.

yeah I've got a comment. James Degale's got more talent in his little finger than Tyson Fury, but I guess it all comes down to physicalities/ rankings at the end of the day. Is a man ranked 10 among 99 bad heavies a better boxer than a man ranked 99 amongst a thousand Super Middles? No.

[tsunami]

Perhaps for me id of swapped murray and barker the other way round, and burns wouldnt quite be so high

[WelshJack]

P4P is based on opposition right? So surely Carl Frampton would be ahead of Brook and Groves?

[brian13]

Scott Quigg is a world champion and is number 15, he needs to be brought up much higher.

[Crazyboy]

Derry Matthews above Haskins for me and also macdonnell above Bellow

Would genuinely like to know your thoughts on that horse

I do like your lists and thanks for doing it every month, always a topic of conversation where i work

[sweetscience]

good list

dont think Brian Rose should be in it though

[Horse]

yeah I've got a comment. James Degale's got more talent in his little finger than Tyson Fury, but I guess it all comes down to physicalities/ rankings at the end of the day.

I'd say Fury is more proven than DeGale. Heavyweights tend to look less talented than they are.

Is a man ranked 10 among 99 bad heavies a better boxer than a man ranked 99 amongst a thousand Super Middles? No.

I don't know.

[Horse]

Perhaps for me id of swapped murray and barker the other way round, and burns wouldnt quite be so high

If Barker beats Sturm next month then he's likely to overtake Murray and Burns.

[Horse]

P4P is based on opposition right? So surely Carl Frampton would be ahead of Brook and Groves?

Frampton has two very good wins, but he has fewer good wins than Groves or Brook have.

[milpool]

When does D.Haye get omitted through inactivity?

[Gordon KOs]

Burns at #2 WTF?

[Horse]

Scott Quigg is a world champion and is number 15, he needs to be brought up much higher.

He was rubbish in his last fight.

[Horse]

Derry Matthews above Haskins for me and also macdonnell above Bellow

Would genuinely like to know your thoughts on that horse

Mathews struggled at domestic level recently with Coyle and Crolla, but Haskins beat Hall and Ward fairly comfortably. That gives Haskins the slight edge for me.

Bellew has fought better opposition than McDonnell recently, so he gets the nod. If Stevenson smashes Bellew easily this month, then he'll probably drop below McDonnell in next month's list.

I do like your lists and thanks for doing it every month, always a topic of conversation where i work

Involving the workplace in the discussion, nice.

[brian13]

Scott Quigg is a world champion and is number 15, he needs to be brought up much higher.

He was rubbish in his last fight.

Wasn't Cleverly six when he was regularly fighting cans.

[Horse]

good list

dont think Brian Rose should be in it though

Rose is the clear No. 1 British light middleweight. I think it would be very harsh not to include him. He's struggled recently, but at least he's fighting good opponents.

[Horse]

When does D.Haye get omitted through inactivity?

Probably never.

[Finch]

Scott Quigg is a world champion and is number 15, he needs to be brought up much higher.

Correct me if I am wrong but he is not a proper world champion is he? He holds the equivalent of Povetkin's and Froch's WBA world title rather than Klit's and Ward's?

[Horse]

Burns at #2 WTF?

He deserves 2nd position more than Haye, that's why he kept his place.

Barker can take the No. 2 spot if he beats Sturm.

[Horse]

Wasn't Cleverly six when he was regularly fighting cans.

He earned 5th place when he was fighting good opposition and then he fell because of his poor opponents.