Towers toppled.
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handsofstone
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Yeah as i said ive never claimed to know too much about Stevensons case so never really had too much to say about it on here
I think its just human nature,nobody likes anyone who has form for doing harm with females,its the same with Tyson,now im not saying he did rape DW but everyone knows how wild he was back then but most people would rather dismiss her story rather than be seen to be showing admiration for someone they believed to be a rapist so just call her a lying bitch even though apart from them 2,nobody knows what happened
I think its just human nature,nobody likes anyone who has form for doing harm with females,its the same with Tyson,now im not saying he did rape DW but everyone knows how wild he was back then but most people would rather dismiss her story rather than be seen to be showing admiration for someone they believed to be a rapist so just call her a lying bitch even though apart from them 2,nobody knows what happened
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thepocketrocket
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I think anyone who turns their life around, when it would be easy to just go back into that way of life when released deserves credit.Superheavy wrote:Towers seems to get a hell of a lot of credit for having done something appalling and then going on to become a mediocre boxer who no longer commits crimes. If something awful had happened to him and he'd gone on to turn his life around, I could understand all the praise. But given what he did, I find it odd. Better not to say anything really, let the guy get on with his career and hope he doesn't do anything like that again.
It is certainly tough trying to get a job, but explaining that you have been away for years, but you have 'really changed', No wonder many just go back to what they know
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He never did any torturing, he was done for the conspiracy. Guess that may have been a factor on there not being a war[/quote]
How long was he inside for again?
columbo wrote:I agree, Towers does like a genuinely nice fella. It was more the double standard of it that I took issue with vs Tower's himself. I dont know who the drug dealer was but im surprised that Tower's has never had any comeback from the guy involved? I wonder if he has.thepocketrocket wrote:"We had this known drug dealer kidnapped and tortured. He was taken somewhere and he was done with steam irons and other such things. We demanded a ransom for him but we let him go after three days."columbo wrote:I dont want to turn this into a debate about a crime but I find it slightly odd how Adonis Stevenson get's absolutely slated on here for in some eyes "being the scum of the earth" for past crimes committed but yet you dont see that with Towers. Wasnt tower inside longer than Stevenson was and if memory serves me correct wasnt it a pretty serious crime with some kind of torture involved?
Taken from an interview I did with him....
Richard was a great fella when I spoke to him...really has turned his life around, no matter what happens in his career
He never did any torturing, he was done for the conspiracy. Guess that may have been a factor on there not being a war[/quote]
How long was he inside for again?
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thepocketrocket
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Got 13 years........
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Damn. That's a long ass time.thepocketrocket wrote:Got 13 years........
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thepocketrocket
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Yeah, having someone tortured doesn't usually go down well LOLcolumbo wrote:Damn. That's a long ass time.thepocketrocket wrote:Got 13 years........
He would have done at least half of that, thats a real chunk
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The thing he's got on his side though is that he's a bloody giant so not many people are gonna try and mess with him haha.thepocketrocket wrote:Yeah, having someone tortured doesn't usually go down well LOLcolumbo wrote:Damn. That's a long ass time.thepocketrocket wrote:Got 13 years........
He would have done at least half of that, thats a real chunk
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thepocketrocket
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The thing he's got on his side though is that he's a bloody giant so not many people are gonna try and mess with him haha.[/quote]columbo wrote: He would have done at least half of that, thats a real chunk
Yes, i would have to watch myself in the showers more than him haha
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All these heavies are getting exposed because of the drug testing believe me. Karma.
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All these heavies are getting exposed because of the drug testing believe me. Karma.
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mickey1975
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If a 6'8 kid and his mates are prepared to kidnap you for three days and torture you with irons, you don't generally going looking for revenge.columbo wrote:I agree, Towers does like a genuinely nice fella. It was more the double standard of it that I took issue with vs Tower's himself. I dont know who the drug dealer was but im surprised that Tower's has never had any comeback from the guy involved? I wonder if he has.thepocketrocket wrote:"We had this known drug dealer kidnapped and tortured. He was taken somewhere and he was done with steam irons and other such things. We demanded a ransom for him but we let him go after three days."columbo wrote:I dont want to turn this into a debate about a crime but I find it slightly odd how Adonis Stevenson get's absolutely slated on here for in some eyes "being the scum of the earth" for past crimes committed but yet you dont see that with Towers. Wasnt tower inside longer than Stevenson was and if memory serves me correct wasnt it a pretty serious crime with some kind of torture involved?
Taken from an interview I did with him....
Richard was a great fella when I spoke to him...really has turned his life around, no matter what happens in his career
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If a 6'8 kid and his mates are prepared to kidnap you for three days and torture you with irons, you don't generally going looking for revenge.[/quote]columbo wrote:I agree, Towers does like a genuinely nice fella. It was more the double standard of it that I took issue with vs Tower's himself. I dont know who the drug dealer was but im surprised that Tower's has never had any comeback from the guy involved? I wonder if he has.thepocketrocket wrote:"We had this known drug dealer kidnapped and tortured. He was taken somewhere and he was done with steam irons and other such things. We demanded a ransom for him but we let him go after three days."columbo wrote:I dont want to turn this into a debate about a crime but I find it slightly odd how Adonis Stevenson get's absolutely slated on here for in some eyes "being the scum of the earth" for past crimes committed but yet you dont see that with Towers. Wasnt tower inside longer than Stevenson was and if memory serves me correct wasnt it a pretty serious crime with some kind of torture involved?
Taken from an interview I did with him....
Richard was a great fella when I spoke to him...really has turned his life around, no matter what happens in his career
If you're a serious drug dealer though you would.
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mickey1975
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That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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You're telling me that proper serious drug dealers wouldnt try and get retribution? If you tried that shit in south america or Mexico or somewhere like that you'd end up floating in a river somewhere.mickey1975 wrote:That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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I don't think Towers was the ringleader, just a henchman, so they would be likely to go after the ringleaders. I think most of them ended up inside anyway and the Mexicans are fvcking mental, there's no comparison between them and anyone else in the world.columbo wrote:You're telling me that proper serious drug dealers wouldnt try and get retribution? If you tried that poo in south america or Mexico or somewhere like that you'd end up floating in a river somewhere.mickey1975 wrote:That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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Even serious crime families over here though wouldnt let you get away with that. If you look at some of the crime families you have in London and over major cities like Manchester, etc. They're really serious people.expe wrote:I don't think Towers was the ringleader, just a henchman, so they would be likely to go after the ringleaders. I think most of them ended up inside anyway and the Mexicans are fvcking mental, there's no comparison between them and anyone else in the world.columbo wrote:You're telling me that proper serious drug dealers wouldnt try and get retribution? If you tried that poo in south america or Mexico or somewhere like that you'd end up floating in a river somewhere.mickey1975 wrote:That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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DavidPayne
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Re: Towers toppled.
weeks.Horse wrote:Joshua should fight both of them in the next few months.Black Sam Bellamy wrote:Towers against Dallas could be an interesting cliff top type of affair.
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forcefraser
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Lucas browne came across as a top bloke in the post fight interview. Seemed a very humble guy.
I'll be rooting for big daddy from now on.
I'll be rooting for big daddy from now on.
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mickey1975
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Sheffield IS a big city, and they were a serious firm.columbo wrote:You're telling me that proper serious drug dealers wouldnt try and get retribution? If you tried that poo in south america or Mexico or somewhere like that you'd end up floating in a river somewhere.mickey1975 wrote:That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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Audley really did miss a trick with Towers. Harrison is a lot better than Towers and would have been a perfect opponenent to beat and start the bullshit rolling again.
As for those who thought Towers belonged in the same ring as Tyson Fury, let alone beat the furious one, hang your heads in shame
As for those who thought Towers belonged in the same ring as Tyson Fury, let alone beat the furious one, hang your heads in shame
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I wasnt saying it isnt mate. It just seems strange to me.mickey1975 wrote:Sheffield IS a big city, and they were a serious firm.columbo wrote:You're telling me that proper serious drug dealers wouldnt try and get retribution? If you tried that poo in south america or Mexico or somewhere like that you'd end up floating in a river somewhere.mickey1975 wrote:That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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Postcode wars and all that sort of thing?mickey1975 wrote:Sheffield IS a big city, and they were a serious firm.columbo wrote:You're telling me that proper serious drug dealers wouldnt try and get retribution? If you tried that poo in south america or Mexico or somewhere like that you'd end up floating in a river somewhere.mickey1975 wrote:That's naive, Columbo. You don't mess with the big boys. I don't care how much tackle the victim had sold. It's sh!t when it comes on top..,
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mickey1975
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That's kids with no respect for life. To fall out over a postcode is backward. To compare what goes on here with Mexico is mad, it is truly mental over there, it will never happen here, thank god.
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Does happen over here Mickey maybe your not watching enough tv!
I wonder if the firm towers associated with were the same who planned to kidnap jonny nelson??
I wonder if the firm towers associated with were the same who planned to kidnap jonny nelson??
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hurlock wrote:Does happen over here Mickey maybe your not watching enough tv!
I wonder if the firm towers associated with were the same who planned to kidnap jonny nelson??
That crossed my mind as well but I imagined there are a few nasty gangs in Sheffield.