Is Froch's power overrated?
Is Froch's power overrated?
First off I want to apologise because ive been complaining about all the Froch and Groves threads but I wanted to put this question out there. There's no doubt that Froch does have a dig on him but does he hit as hard as some think he does and he himself thinks he does? I remember the Bute fight and whilst he clearly hit hard enough to hurt Bute, the flurry at the end when he had him on the ropes still didnt actually manage to drop Bute.
Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
The ropes held him up....
Froch bangs & is a stiff hitter like robin Reid.
He looks like he's punching through treacle at times but he allway's lands knowbody mentions that he don't miss a lot
Froch bangs & is a stiff hitter like robin Reid.
He looks like he's punching through treacle at times but he allway's lands knowbody mentions that he don't miss a lot
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I dont think the ropes fully held him up. I think if that had been Groves, Kessler and maybe a few others at 168 Bute probably would of been out cold. Anyway, yeah I wasnt saying Froch doesnt hit hard but I was asking if he is a true puncher.hurlock wrote:The ropes held him up....
Froch bangs & is a stiff hitter like robin Reid.
He looks like he's punching through treacle at times but he allway's lands knowbody mentions that he don't miss a lot
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
I think you're underrating Bute a lot there mate. I watched a lot of him before the Froch fight and he was quality. I don't know how much physical and mental damage the Froch fight did to him, but going into that fight, he was very impressive and I think he would have been very hard to beat by anyone other than Froch and Ward.columbo wrote:I dont think the ropes fully held him up. I think if that had been Groves, Kessler and maybe a few others at 168 Bute probably would of been out cold. Anyway, yeah I wasnt saying Froch doesnt hit hard but I was asking if he is a true puncher.hurlock wrote:The ropes held him up....
Froch bangs & is a stiff hitter like robin Reid.
He looks like he's punching through treacle at times but he allway's lands knowbody mentions that he don't miss a lot
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I don't think he's a real one punch hitter, the way he looked like he was coming up, but I think everyone knows that, so he's rarely overrated.
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Ah no I wasnt questioning Bute's talent mate but he was badly hurt and got very lucky against Librado Andrade in their first fight. He doesnt have the best chin in the world. That's all I was saying. In terms of talent though he's got a lot of skill for sure.keithmoonhangover wrote:I think you're underrating Bute a lot there mate. I watched a lot of him before the Froch fight and he was quality. I don't know how much physical and mental damage the Froch fight did to him, but going into that fight, he was very impressive and I think he would have been very hard to beat by anyone other than Froch and Ward.columbo wrote:I dont think the ropes fully held him up. I think if that had been Groves, Kessler and maybe a few others at 168 Bute probably would of been out cold. Anyway, yeah I wasnt saying Froch doesnt hit hard but I was asking if he is a true puncher.hurlock wrote:The ropes held him up....
Froch bangs & is a stiff hitter like robin Reid.
He looks like he's punching through treacle at times but he allway's lands knowbody mentions that he don't miss a lot
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I said this after the Bute fight and got slated for it but i'll say it again: At world level Froch is not a devastating puncher despite what a good few posters think. He wears people down with the accumulative effect of his punching. His power though is obviously to be respected even at world level.
I do think Bute was virtually out though. Even Bute's trainer said the stoppage was a couple of punches too late. If you watch it in again you can see the 2nd or 3rd last punch Carl throws is fairly sickening and Bute is completely gone, not unconscious but absolutely nothing left. If there was no ropes he'd have been flat on his back. If Carl was a devastating puncher though Bute wouldn't have got to the 5th round. I just think Bute's very chinny.
I do think Bute was virtually out though. Even Bute's trainer said the stoppage was a couple of punches too late. If you watch it in again you can see the 2nd or 3rd last punch Carl throws is fairly sickening and Bute is completely gone, not unconscious but absolutely nothing left. If there was no ropes he'd have been flat on his back. If Carl was a devastating puncher though Bute wouldn't have got to the 5th round. I just think Bute's very chinny.
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I never thought of Froch as a devastating puncher, I didnt think that many did. He has good world level power, not one punch KO but concussive enough. Especially when you add his style.
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the answer is a simple "yes".
but he is a top class fighter
but he is a top class fighter
Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
No doubtmullenman wrote:the answer is a simple "yes".
but he is a top class fighter
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
DMA1987 wrote:I never thought of Froch as a devastating puncher, I didnt think that many did. He has good world level power, not one punch KO but concussive enough. Especially when you add his style.
Spot on
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
If we all think it's overrated, who is overrating it?
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ShadrachSimmo
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
His KO percentage before he began fighting at world level was impressive.
But essentially he's a grind 'em down type of fighter. I wouldn't say his power is overrated though I'm sure most people would agree he's never been known as a KO artist.
But essentially he's a grind 'em down type of fighter. I wouldn't say his power is overrated though I'm sure most people would agree he's never been known as a KO artist.
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Froch has a numbing power.
I know.
I know.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
G0mez wrote:Froch has a numbing power.
I know.
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More so than Groves, Kessler or Bute though do you think?G0mez wrote:Froch has a numbing power.
I know.
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Hijacking the question, I know, but for me, they all have more one punch power than Froch. For me, Froch is more aware than most fighters as to when he has people shaken though and really makes the most of his power with combination punching and his aggressive style. Not a devastating puncher by any stretch, but he easily hits hard enough to get the job done.columbo wrote:More so than Groves, Kessler or Bute though do you think?G0mez wrote:Froch has a numbing power.
I know.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
Based on what? Being able to deck Carl Froch once and not being able to finish him? He landed a load of clean right hands. If he had WORLD CLASS POWER, would he not have knocked him down more than once?Groove Armada wrote:He has ok power at world level.
GROVES HAS WORLD CLASS POWER!
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
He hits clubbing shot's, not concussive.
he's had the respect of many top class guys after catching them, i thinks its more a case of Groves isn't as chinny as people suggest.
he's had the respect of many top class guys after catching them, i thinks its more a case of Groves isn't as chinny as people suggest.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
Why did you get banned when you were Tom Ford?Groove Armada wrote:What do you weigh? Maybe you are just chinny? Are you world class?G0mez wrote:Froch has a numbing power.
I know.
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
I'm just asking why you got banned last time?Groove Armada wrote:Look, if you want me banned just kiss some butt.
Jog on.
DD
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keithmoonhangover
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
I wouldn't know, because I've never been banned. You have 'huckleberry'.Groove Armada wrote:I never been banned! If I were how am I still posting? Now jog on!
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
hurlock wrote:The ropes held him up....
Froch bangs & is a stiff hitter like robin Reid.
He looks like he's punching through treacle at times but he allway's lands knowbody mentions that he don't miss a lot
I agree with this post completley, Froch usually has good accuracy. One of the biggest shocks for me was how inaccurate he was at weekend.
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Re: Is Froch's power overrated?
Froch has decent power, I don't think anyone has ever claimed he was Julian Jackson. Groves has world class power in my opinion. I thought that before the Froch fight.
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Mickey, I still havent seen your reaction on this..... were you shocked by Blackledge getting knocked out like he did?mickey1975 wrote:Froch has decent power, I don't think anyone has ever claimed he was Julian Jackson. Groves has world class power in my opinion. I thought that before the Froch fight.