Is boxing spoiled by fans?

johnreilly
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Is boxing spoiled by fans?

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I went to the Groves-Froch fight last weekend, my first big boxing event. Really enjoyed the contest but was dismayed at the number of people in the crowd spoiling for a fight. So many drunk people acting agressively has put me off going to another professional event. I've been to several amateur events and find the atmosphere much better.

Does the behaviour of boxing crowds put other people off? I train at a local boxing gym; for me boxing is about mutual respect, two people engaged in a tough sport recognising the hard work and dedication they both put in. It's not about drinking a gallon of beer and abusing people.
Spud
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johnreilly wrote:I went to the Groves-Froch fight last weekend, my first big boxing event. Really enjoyed the contest but was dismayed at the number of people in the crowd spoiling for a fight. So many drunk people acting agressively has put me off going to another professional event. I've been to several amateur events and find the atmosphere much better.
Getting drunk in the bar and the odd scrap here and there happens in every walk of life - I have been to amateur shows and white collar events where exactly the same has happened.
johnreilly wrote:Does the behaviour of boxing crowds put other people off? I train at a local boxing gym; for me boxing is about mutual respect, two people engaged in a tough sport recognising the hard work and dedication they both put in. It's not about drinking a gallon of beer and abusing people.
Nope it doesnt put me off and if you wish to carry on wearing your rose tinted spectacles then so beit.
Gazmac81
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Post by Gazmac81 »

much the same as the Darts mate , these big Events are treated as piss ups and thats why they sell so well.

as thats what the majority of people going want to do ,

and of course once drinks involved then a minority of folk seem to think there fighters and it can escalate

i wouldnt let it put you off though ,
Parson Cross
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Post by Parson Cross »

No.
Boxing is made by fans.
You will always get this at major sporting events - not just boxing.
It's a reflection of society not the sport.
The bigger the event the more I pay for my ticket.
The rucks are often with the lads in the cheap seats.
I know this will open up the "well I can't afford those prices" debate and I understand that.
It's a shame that this was the first attendance johnreilly but I wouldn't let it put you off.
Many many shows go by well attended with no bother.
Spud
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Post by Spud »

Parson Cross wrote:No.
Boxing is made by fans.
You will always get this at major sporting events - not just boxing.
It's a reflection of society not the sport.
The bigger the event the more I pay for my ticket.
The rucks are often with the lads in the cheap seats.
I know this will open up the "well I can't afford those prices" debate and I understand that.
It's a shame that this was the first attendance johnreilly but I wouldn't let it put you off.
Many many shows go by well attended with no bother.
F*ck me you have just made me realise I might have to start paying for my tickets now David aint fighting!! :-? :-?
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Welcome to the club buddy !
rm1
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yes to a degree and it's worth noting that this is preventing the spread of the sport to a wider audience and is one reason why TV is cautious about showing boxing. Great sport watched by too many morons I am afraid.
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rm1 wrote:yes to a degree and it's worth noting that this is preventing the spread of the sport to a wider audience and is one reason why TV is cautious about showing boxing. Great sport watched by too many morons I am afraid.
Football, cricket and rugby all have their share of morons.
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Post by WelshJack »

The only thing is when people keep asking you when the main event is got it a lot at the Cleverly bill whilst Buckland v Smith and Enzo v Ovill was on.
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Post by bodyactive »

Ive been to an amateur show and evetyone in the venue was fighting.at pro shows the security is alot stronger.where ever alcohol is sold ur gunna get the odd bit of trouble in every sporting event.so dont let it put u off.
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Post by banjo »

It's weird how it works, a lot of people say that the problem is down to alcohol BUT I've been at a few concerts in the MEN and there was no trouble, just metalheads getting pissed and rocking out.

Maybe it's British sports fans in general, yobbos abusing people, you see it at the football, boxing, rugby, I've even seen it at the British MotoGP round at Donny.
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Boxing is bad because of the nature of the sport it winds morons up to want to fight even though they can't eevn do that well. - alcohol doesn't help but as said other things have alcohol and less violence.
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banjo wrote:It's weird how it works, a lot of people say that the problem is down to alcohol BUT I've been at a few concerts in the MEN and there was no trouble, just metalheads getting pissed and rocking out.

Maybe it's British sports fans in general, yobbos abusing people, you see it at the football, boxing, rugby, I've even seen it at the British MotoGP round at Donny.
I can't see there being many yobbos at rugby, bit posh for that.
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Post by Parson Cross »

Not true.
My worst experience of trouble was in Cardiff when I went to my one and only RU International Wales v England.
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Post by TheCobra »

It's usually a lot better at the small hall shows, a lot more real boxing fans usually unless there's a particular rivalry in the offing. Every single arena show I've been to there have been several scraps. Just what happens when you get people who don't care about boxing at boxing shows. I mean seriously, they've paid £100 to watch Froch vs Groves and then they have a scrap during one of the most anticipated fights of the year, just proves to me that they don't give a shit about boxing in the first place.
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Post by pyenest77 »

Was gonna mention the same thing 99% of the small hall shows that I have been to go off without problem.
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Post by lillywhite14 »

expe wrote:
banjo wrote:It's weird how it works, a lot of people say that the problem is down to alcohol BUT I've been at a few concerts in the MEN and there was no trouble, just metalheads getting pissed and rocking out.

Maybe it's British sports fans in general, yobbos abusing people, you see it at the football, boxing, rugby, I've even seen it at the British MotoGP round at Donny.
I can't see there being many yobbos at rugby, bit posh for that.
League is working class. Union is for the posh
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Spud wrote:
johnreilly wrote:I went to the Groves-Froch fight last weekend, my first big boxing event. Really enjoyed the contest but was dismayed at the number of people in the crowd spoiling for a fight. So many drunk people acting agressively has put me off going to another professional event. I've been to several amateur events and find the atmosphere much better.
Getting drunk in the bar and the odd scrap here and there happens in every walk of life - I have been to amateur shows and white collar events where exactly the same has happened.
johnreilly wrote:Does the behaviour of boxing crowds put other people off? I train at a local boxing gym; for me boxing is about mutual respect, two people engaged in a tough sport recognising the hard work and dedication they both put in. It's not about drinking a gallon of beer and abusing people.
Nope it doesnt put me off and if you wish to carry on wearing your rose tinted spectacles then so beit.
You started most of them :wink:
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rm1 wrote:yes to a degree and it's worth noting that this is preventing the spread of the sport to a wider audience and is one reason why TV is cautious about showing boxing. Great sport watched by too many morons I am afraid.
I disagree to an extent. A lot of the people at Froch-Groves are probably not even hardcore boxing fans! They just get caught up in the hype of the event and decide to go.
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Parson Cross wrote:Not true.
My worst experience of trouble was in Cardiff when I went to my one and only RU International Wales v England.
Yeah, rugby lads can be feisty fuckers. I've never been a member of one but you only to look at their social clubs to see that. Big bastards a lot of them aswell so not good when they kick off lol.
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Ps, ive never been to York hall *mad I know* is it definietly worth going to a card there?
stevedoc
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Big stadium/arena fights aren't filled with boxing fans more like football fans who like the whole gang thing of surporting one team /fighter .i've only ever been to one big show benn vs eubanks 2 and i'd rather watch a southern area title fight at york hall than be miles away from the action at a big stadium bill .
many of the people there would of never been to a show before and the shock stoppage would of wound many up.

SIMPLY PUT REAL BOXING FANS GO TO SMALLER SHOWS
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Columbo,
You have no right to call yourself a British boxing fan until you've attended its home.
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columbo wrote:Ps, ive never been to York hall *mad I know* is it definietly worth going to a card there?
to be fair you get some crap there as well . the one i'm gutted i missed and i could of got tickets as a mate was topping the bill was when johnny tapia boxed there about 10 years ago .the atmosphere seemed amazing
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Parson Cross wrote:Columbo,
You have no right to call yourself a British boxing fan until you've attended its home.
Haha fair cop.
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