The Hitman or The Hawk: Who Was the Better KO Artist

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The Hitman or The Hawk: Who was the better KO artist

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The Hitman or The Hawk: Who Was the Better KO Artist

Post by elmersalsa »

Two of the most devastating punchers of all time pound per pound of recent memory. Who was the better puncher? The great Thomas "The Hitman" Hearns or Julian "The Hawk" Jackson?
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Whoever BoxBuzz picks.
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Seamus wrote:Whoever BoxBuzz picks.
Well it's not THAT Hawk.....lol.....However this does put the pressure on to be accurate....as I don't want to let Seamus down.

I'll need to confer with Il Duce...and get back to you.
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Re: The Hitman or The Hawk: Who Was the Better KO Artist

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I picked Jackson for having more raw power, but Hearns was the more skilled of the two punchers and beat the better opposition. Guess it depends on one's criteria.
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I think Jackson had more one shot KO power as well, but Hearns was definitely right there with him. I think Hearns would beat Jackson more often than not in a head to head fight.
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Seriously if you use the word "Artist" It's Hearns.......Jackson's work was not often pretty.
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gilgamesh wrote:I think Jackson had more one shot KO power as well
I don't. Jackson was a bit diminished with his power at 160. Tommy was dropping and stopping Light Heavyweights and Cruiserweights well past his prime.
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drunkenpiper36 wrote:I picked Jackson for having more raw power, but Hearns was the more skilled of the two punchers and beat the better opposition. Guess it depends on one's criteria.
This +1
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:I don't. Jackson was a bit diminished with his power at 160. Tommy was dropping and stopping Light Heavyweights and Cruiserweights well past his prime.
Fair point. Add to that his superior quality of wins, I'd go for Tommy, too.
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Don't know about sheer power but Tommy would land a far higher percentage of his home-run shots.

Accuracy makes a huge difference.
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Hearns was the better knockout artist... But Jackson had more power.

It's a bit of a strange old question.
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When I saw the title I thought it would be about Aaron Pryor.
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:When I saw the title I thought it would be about Aaron Pryor.
I thought the same thing.
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So did I.

And I voted for Hearns. I think he was a better finisher, and hit harder shot for shot.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:I think Jackson had more one shot KO power as well
I don't. Jackson was a bit diminished with his power at 160. Tommy was dropping and stopping Light Heavyweights and Cruiserweights well past his prime.
I don't think his power was diminished at Middleweight. He was just on the down slope of his career starting there. He was still just as capable of putting guys out in frightening ways at Middle as he was Jr. Middle.
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That's quite a contradiction.
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gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:When I saw the title I thought it would be about Aaron Pryor.
I thought the same thing.

And as much as I admire Hearns, I'd pick Pryor -- only 4 of 39 went the distance with him.
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:When I saw the title I thought it would be about Aaron Pryor.
I thought the same thing.

And as much as I admire Hearns, I'd pick Pryor -- only 4 of 39 went the distance with him.
:lol:
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Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:When I saw the title I thought it would be about Aaron Pryor.
I thought the same thing.

And as much as I admire Hearns, I'd pick Pryor -- only 4 of 39 went the distance with him.
Not sure it can be quantified as simply as that, to be honest. The quality of wins has to come into play.
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Post by SaadOffTheDeck »

NazNaci1 wrote:
Cutman Scabbers wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
I thought the same thing.

And as much as I admire Hearns, I'd pick Pryor -- only 4 of 39 went the distance with him.
Not sure it can be quantified as simply as that, to be honest. The quality of wins has to come into play.
I'd think so, unless Hector Camacho was a greater knock out artist than Ike Williams.
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Hearns had many more ways of winning than a right hand to the chin.
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Post by IKSRTFO »

Hearns. His power even carried over to the unbreakable. Even though he didn't stop neither he almost ended Leonard's career and hurt the superhuman chin of Hagler even if for a few seconds.
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Re: The Hitman or The Hawk: Who Was the Better KO Artist

Post by elmersalsa »

The great Hitman KO'd stone-chinned great Roberto Duran.

another question for you all will be, who was the better puncher/ko artist after round 5: The Hitman or The Hawk?

It seemed to me that after five rounds, Hearns was not as devastating as a puncher. Did Jackson had that problem?
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That's quite a contradiction.
His power wasn't on the down slope. He was as a fighter. Not to mention his eyes were getting worse and worse. One of the reasons he became less technically proficient down the line. Not that he was ever a great technician, but still. His power was just as frightening, he just wasn't as adept at landing the big shot (with some obvious exceptions).

Hearns was the more skilled finisher, but Jackson was the harder puncher as far as raw power for me.
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King Carlos wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:That's quite a contradiction.
His power wasn't on the down slope. He was as a fighter. Not to mention his eyes were getting worse and worse. One of the reasons he became less technically proficient down the line. Not that he was ever a great technician, but still. His power was just as frightening, he just wasn't as adept at landing the big shot (with some obvious exceptions).

Hearns was the more skilled finisher, but Jackson was the harder puncher as far as raw power for me.
I don't agree with a word of this, but it's quite clear. :TU:
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