Amateur losses of well known pros

[Vladimir5555]

Serik Konakbaev
*Patricio Oliva,dec,EC 1979
*Azumah Nelson,TKO 3,World Cup 1979
*Don Curry,dec,USSR vs USA 1981

[gilgamesh]

Didn't Kostya Tszyu beat Vernon Forrest in the amateurs when he (Tszyu) was like two years younger, or am I remembering that wrong?

And while I'm on Forrest, he did beat Mosley in the amateurs(as well as pros, of course). Kelson Pinto beat Miguel Cotto.

Ok, well what a shiitty contribution, I'm no historian on these matters

I remembered thinking it was interesting that Pinto beat Cotto as an amateur and Cotto beat him with ease as a Professional.

Whereas Cotto beat Ricardo Torres as an amateur, and then had absolute hell with him in the Pros. He still won, but it was probably one of Miguel's hardest fought victories.

[Vladimir5555]

Didn't Kostya Tszyu beat Vernon Forrest in the amateurs when he (Tszyu) was like two years younger, or am I remembering that wrong?

And while I'm on Forrest, he did beat Mosley in the amateurs(as well as pros, of course). Kelson Pinto beat Miguel Cotto.

Ok, well what a shiitty contribution, I'm no historian on these matters

EDIT: Yes, I'm also aware how stupid the "when he was two years younger" line sounded, in retrospect, he always would have been What I meant was that Tszyu was particularly young, 16 or so at the time.

Tszyu beat Forrest in 1991.It was final in World Championship in.Sydney

[Vladimir5555]

Anatoly Kamnev outpointed Ray Leonard in 1974.SRR outpointed Kamnev in 1975

Gennadiy Lapshin outpointed John Mugabi

Andrey Kurnyavka outpointed John Ruis,Sven Ottke,Terry McGroom and kayos Jeremy Williams

Dmitriy Korsun two times outpointed Chris Byrd in 1989 and 1990

Assylbek Kilimov kayos Henry Maske in 1982

Sergei Artemiev outpointed Shane Mosley,USSR vs USA 1989

Artur Grigorian outpointed Shane Mosley,Goodwill Games 1990

Igor Ruzhnikov outpointed Roy Jones,Goodwill Games 1986

Piotr Zaev outpointed Francesco Damiani,OG 1980,Semifinal

Andrey Gogolev outpointed Carl Froch,World Championship 2001,Semifinal

Bulat Shararov outpointed Christophe Tiozzo,Junior European Championship 1982

Marco Rudolph outpointed ODLH in World Championship 1991

Angel Herrera outpointed Pernell Whitaker.World Championship 1982

[Dubblechin]

Vyacheslav Lemeshev (USSR) beat
Alan Minter TKO 2 Junior European Championship 1970
Marvin Johnson TKO 2 Semifinal OG 1972
*Michael Spinks,dec.USSR vs USA 1975

Igor Visotsky
*Tony Tubbs, RSC 2,USSR vs USA 1976

Stanislav Stepashkin
*Ken Buchanan,PTS,EC 1965,Semifinal

Oleg Karataev
*Leon Spinks,TKO 3, World Championship 1974

Alexander Koshkyn
*James Shuler,RSC 1,USSR vs USA 1981

Alex Miroshnichenko
* Lennox Lewis,DEC,Intercup 1986
*Riddick Bowe DEC,USSR vs USA

Vyacheslav Yakovlev outpointed Lennox Lewis.World Cup 1985.Final

Aleksander Tkachenko kayos Charlie Magri.1974 Junior European Championship.Final

Nikolay Erofeev outpointed Tony Tucker.USSR vs USA 1979

Alex Yagubkin
*Tyrell Biggs,dec,USSR vs USA 1981
*Henry Tilman,dec,USSR vs USA 1983
Michael Bent,dec,World Cup 1985

Does anyone know of any copies floating around of Alex Miroshnichenko's pro bouts? I'd love to see them. I know he went undefeated until he lost to Oleg Maskaev (in Maskaev's debut) ... and then he was rumored to have been killed by the Russian mob.

[Vladimir5555]

I saw only his fight against Bowe in OG 1988 semifinal.

Pro fights I don*t saw.

[Vladimir5555]

Evgeniy Gorstkov outpointed Greg Page, TKO John Tate and kayos Jumbo Cummings

Igor Visotsky outpointed Mitch Green

David Kvachadze outpointed James Tillis

[Dubblechin]

Evgeniy Gorstkov outpointed Greg Page, TKO John Tate and kayos Jumbo Cummings

Igor Visotsky outpointed Mitch Green

David Kvachadze outpointed James Tillis

I wish there was more footage of Igor - like his beat down of Stevenson before the 1976 Olympics.

[Tomasino]

Sven Ottke made 21 successful title defenses at super middleweight and retired undefeated. As an amateur, Ottke also defeated these future champs:

* Michael Moorer 1987 USA vs. Germany
* Chris Byrd 1992 USA vs. Germany
* Juan Carlos Gomez (1994)
* Antonio Tarver 1994 USA vs. Germany
* Zsolt Erdei 1996 European Championships

I never liked Sven Ottke as I seen him benefit from biased judging and refereeing a few times..but he has had some career in boxing. Did he earn well? Is he in good health?

[Controversial]

Some good posts Vladimir5555

[Controversial]

Referee stop contest in round 1 or round 2

......why not just call it a TKO like the Pro's?

I don't expect you to have an answer to that question, just rhetorical. Thanks for answering my question.

Sometimes called RSF (ref stops fight) as well

[Vladimir5555]

Sergey Galikeev outpointed Ivan Robinson,USSR vs USA 1990

Dmitry Shurshakov outpointed Ivan Robinson,Junior World Championship 1987

Mario Kindelan outpointed Andrey Kotelnik and Amir Khan in finals OG 2000 and 2004

Bekzat Sattarkhanov outpointed Guillermo Rigondeaux,Junior World Championship.1998

Ramazi Paliani outpointed Joel Casamayor

Israel Akopkokhyan outpointed Frankie Liles,USSR vs USA

Vasiliy Shishov outpointed Crisanto Espana

Bernardo Comas outpointed Iran Barkley,World Championship 1982

Anatoliy Klimanov outpointed Michael Spinks

Anders Aldama outpointed John Mugabi,OG 1980 Final

Andrey Akulov TKO Tim Littles,USSR vs USA 1985

Sergey Michnik,Victor Demyanenko and Vladimir Stepanov outpointed Vinni Pazienza

[SamWise72]

Does anyone know of any copies floating around of Alex Miroshnichenko's pro bouts? I'd love to see them. I know he went undefeated until he lost to Oleg Maskaev (in Maskaev's debut) ... and then he was rumored to have been killed by the Russian mob.

I'd not come across this guy before, so I looked up his record. 21 fights, and his best wins were Ross Purrity (in his 5th fight), and the ghost of Ricky Parkey?? His handlers didn't have a lot of confidence in him; he makes Tyson Fury's record look like Mike Tysons! I guess losing to Maskaev on the latter's debut was always on the cards.

[BoxBuzz]

Maybe so....but nothing like the slaughter he took at the hands of the guys who beat him up and took his bicycle.

If only you could have witnessed that...you have lent a hand!

[Nile4000]

Donald Curry outpointed Davey Moore at the 1980 Olympic Trials.

Marvin Frazier outpointed Tim Witherspoon sometime in 1979.

Pablo Ramos outpointed Michael Dokes around 1974.

Randy Shields beat Ray Leonard in the 1979 National AAU finals.

[gilgamesh]

Donald Curry outpointed Davey Moore at the 1980 Olympic Trials.

Marvin Frazier outpointed Tim Witherspoon sometime in 1979.

Pablo Ramos outpointed Michael Dokes around 1974.

Randy Shields beat Ray Leonard in the 1979 National AAU finals.

That last one can't possibly be right. In 1979 Ray Leonard was in the 3rd year of his Professional career, he had 9 fights that year, and closed out the year winning his first major title over Wilfred Benitez.

[tiny_acres]

Donald Curry outpointed Davey Moore at the 1980 Olympic Trials.

Marvin Frazier outpointed Tim Witherspoon sometime in 1979.

Pablo Ramos outpointed Michael Dokes around 1974.

Randy Shields beat Ray Leonard in the 1979 National AAU finals.

That last one can't possibly be right. In 1979 Ray Leonard was in the 3rd year of his Professional career, he had 9 fights that year, and closed out the year winning his first major title over Wilfred Benitez.

I just checked this up.It was the 1973 national aau championship.
I hope this helps.

[Nile4000]

Donald Curry outpointed Davey Moore at the 1980 Olympic Trials.

Marvin Frazier outpointed Tim Witherspoon sometime in 1979.

Pablo Ramos outpointed Michael Dokes around 1974.

Randy Shields beat Ray Leonard in the 1979 National AAU finals.

That last one can't possibly be right. In 1979 Ray Leonard was in the 3rd year of his Professional career, he had 9 fights that year, and closed out the year winning his first major title over Wilfred Benitez.

It was 1973, had a minor mind flinch.

[gilgamesh]

Donald Curry outpointed Davey Moore at the 1980 Olympic Trials.

Marvin Frazier outpointed Tim Witherspoon sometime in 1979.

Pablo Ramos outpointed Michael Dokes around 1974.

Randy Shields beat Ray Leonard in the 1979 National AAU finals.

That last one can't possibly be right. In 1979 Ray Leonard was in the 3rd year of his Professional career, he had 9 fights that year, and closed out the year winning his first major title over Wilfred Benitez.

It was 1973, had a minor mind flinch.

[littlepug]

Pretty sure I heard GGG stopped Hatton and hoko got stopped in 1st by john davison

[handsofstone]

I,m sure Juergan Braehmer beat both Ricky Hatton and Carl Froch in the ams

[Nile4000]

May 12, 1973 {Boston, Massachusetts}

National AAU Championships {Finals}

63.5 {Kg} ~ 139 lb. Light-Welterweight
Randy Shields {Dec} Ray Leonard

Randy Shields {133 lbs.} defeated Ray Leonard {138 lbs.} by a 5-0 Decision

Randy {Age 17 years, 5 months} was able to out-punch Ray {Age 16 years, 11 months} in toe-to-toe exchanges
during the first 2-Rounds, by using his longer reach and outside right upper-cuts.

Early in Round 3, Randy landed a right uppercut from the outside that dropped Ray to his knee's. Ray got up and fought
back hard, but was out-manned by the taller Californian over the second-half of the bout.
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81 Kg ~ 178 lbs. Light-Heavyweight
D.C. Barker {KO 1} Leon Spinks

D.C. Barker, a hard-banging 178 lb. fighter from Denver, Colorado was also the 1973 National Golden Gloves Champion.

Leon {Age; 19 years, 10 months} came out winging in the 1st-Round, and was able to rattle "D.C" with a left-hook, and
follow up flurry.

But "D.C." remained cool, and started to counter Leon with right-hands after the mid-way point in Round 1. Then in a flash,
"D.C" caught Leon with a 'right-left' to the chin, and had him in all sorts of trouble.

"D.C" then calmy set Leon up for the 'Suzie Q', and dropped in a right-hand flush on the chin......... KO @ 2:20 of Round 1.

Wow! Thought Leonard was only dropped once as an amateur.

[chucktaylor]

Duane Bobick stopped Larry Holmes in an amateur bout, which got him on the 1972 Olympic team.

[Nile4000]

Eddie Gregg stopped Renaldo Snipes in intercity competition in 1978.