Groves signing with Sauerland - Good move?

TopGun · Post by **TopGun** » 20 May 2014, 05:51

Think he will make some money with this signing as they will put him in with Kessler but I'm not sure if it will be good in the long run, time will tell.

TJ77 · Post by **TJ77** » 20 May 2014, 06:22

I think its good that a British fighter of George's calibre has signed with someone other than Matchroom as their monopoly is not healthy for the sport now.IMO
I think Sky like Groves and if it means they look at showing some other people's shows that will be a winner all round.
They seem likeable and a fight with Sturm would be a bonus if they could make that.

black panther · Post by **black panther** » 20 May 2014, 06:48

TJ77 wrote:I think its good that a British fighter of George's calibre has signed with someone other than Matchroom as their monopoly is not healthy for the sport now.

Agreed

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 20 May 2014, 06:54

TJ77 wrote:I think its good that a British fighter of George's calibre has signed with someone other than Matchroom as their monopoly is not healthy for the sport now.IMO
I think Sky like Groves and if it means they look at showing some other people's shows that will be a winner all round.
They seem likeable and a fight with Sturm would be a bonus if they could make that.

Is Sturm moving up? They do seem likeable, like you say it's good to break a monopoly. And its infinitely better than Warren.

whiskey · Post by **whiskey** » 20 May 2014, 07:09

It makes no sense to sign two Brits back to back, who are both coming off two stoppage losses apiece.

They are educated guys, the Sauerlands - and I hope they haven't bought stock when it's at an all-time high, because it will plummet come 10.30pm on Saturday 31st May.

Lucian Bute was solid gold when he came to Nottingham, but he left as scrap iron on Froch's front garden alongside a rusty BBQ and an old washing machine for his Romanian brothers to collect.

Andrew · Post by **Andrew** » 20 May 2014, 07:20

TJ77 wrote:I think its good that a British fighter of George's calibre has signed with someone other than Matchroom as their monopoly is not healthy for the sport now.IMO
I think Sky like Groves and if it means they look at showing some other people's shows that will be a winner all round.
They seem likeable and a fight with Sturm would be a bonus if they could make that.

I'm sure Sturm is independant from Saeurland and has he own TV deal in Germany which is huge. Hence why Barker got 1mill euros.

Also doubt he would ever move up to Super Middle.

Cyclops · Post by **Cyclops** » 20 May 2014, 07:33

Is Abraham with them?

Post by **The Law** » 20 May 2014, 07:36

clopixolacuphase wrote:Is Abraham with them?

Yes

mullenman · Post by **mullenman** » 20 May 2014, 07:41

bad news for me,,

i hope froch knocks the ginger kid out,,

keirw · Post by **keirw** » 20 May 2014, 07:50

Undecided, it depends whether he wins or not against Froch. If he wins he can go straight into a couple of big money fights, but if he looses they will no doubt have him sparking out bums for a few months before they can put him in a big fight. Strange timing by the Sauerland boys, really.

SteveDow · Post by **SteveDow** » 20 May 2014, 08:02

G0mez wrote:It makes no sense to sign two Brits back to back, who are both coming off two stoppage losses apiece.

They are educated guys, the Sauerlands - and I hope they haven't bought stock when it's at an all-time high, because it will plummet come 10.30pm on Saturday 31st May.

Lucian Bute was solid gold when he came to Nottingham, but he left as scrap iron on Froch's front garden alongside a rusty BBQ and an old washing machine for his Romanian brothers to collect.

Depends how you look at it of course as if Groves wins then he'd be a lot more expensive than he is now as it would catapult him into the position as second best in the division.

palooka · Post by **palooka** » 20 May 2014, 08:10

SteveDow wrote:
G0mez wrote:It makes no sense to sign two Brits back to back, who are both coming off two stoppage losses apiece.

They are educated guys, the Sauerlands - and I hope they haven't bought stock when it's at an all-time high, because it will plummet come 10.30pm on Saturday 31st May.

Lucian Bute was solid gold when he came to Nottingham, but he left as scrap iron on Froch's front garden alongside a rusty BBQ and an old washing machine for his Romanian brothers to collect.
Depends how you look at it of course as if Groves wins then he'd be a lot more expensive than he is now as it would catapult him into the position as second best in the division.

Though the 2nd best in the division will be more marketable than the best. If Groves win he'll earn big.

mickey1975 · Post by **mickey1975** » 20 May 2014, 08:12

I wonder if this had anything to do with Price mysteriously having to part ways with Booth.

SteveDow · Post by **SteveDow** » 20 May 2014, 08:16

palooka wrote:
SteveDow wrote:
G0mez wrote:It makes no sense to sign two Brits back to back, who are both coming off two stoppage losses apiece.

They are educated guys, the Sauerlands - and I hope they haven't bought stock when it's at an all-time high, because it will plummet come 10.30pm on Saturday 31st May.

Lucian Bute was solid gold when he came to Nottingham, but he left as scrap iron on Froch's front garden alongside a rusty BBQ and an old washing machine for his Romanian brothers to collect.
Depends how you look at it of course as if Groves wins then he'd be a lot more expensive than he is now as it would catapult him into the position as second best in the division.
Though the 2nd best in the division will be more marketable than the best. If Groves win he'll earn big.

I'd have thought a fight with Ward would follow within a year at most if Groves beats Froch. Defence against Degale then unification with Ward (although of course Groves may want to milk the belt first for 2 or 3 defences).

zero · Post by **zero** » 20 May 2014, 08:27

George is obviously butt hurt Hearn is rooting for the “international super star” that is Carl Froch. Not sure where George will be fighting with this move. IMO he should have taken his time and made the decision after the fight. Froch could have well retired and George vs DeGale is a huge fight. Eddie might look to guide James down another route now.

zero · Post by **zero** » 20 May 2014, 08:29

mickey1975 wrote:I wonder if this had anything to do with Price mysteriously having to part ways with Booth.

Nope, I don’t think Adam was wanting to trounce around Europe while Price goes life and death with tomato cans..

stevedoc · Post by **stevedoc** » 20 May 2014, 08:31

zero wrote:George is obviously butt hurt Hearn is rooting for the “international super star” that is Carl Froch. Not sure where George will be fighting with this move. IMO he should have taken his time and made the decision after the fight. Froch could have well retired and George vs DeGale is a huge fight. Eddie might look to guide James down another route now.

when i've seen groves and eddie hearn together they seemed to get on well and i was sure groves would of signed with hearn if he beat froch ....

freddydoesdallas · Post by **freddydoesdallas** » 20 May 2014, 09:16

G0mez wrote:It makes no sense to sign two Brits back to back, who are both coming off two stoppage losses apiece.

They are educated guys, the Sauerlands - and I hope they haven't bought stock when it's at an all-time high, because it will plummet come 10.30pm on Saturday 31st May.

Lucian Bute was solid gold when he came to Nottingham, but he left as scrap iron on Froch's front garden alongside a rusty BBQ and an old washing machine for his Romanian brothers to collect.

Yes GOmez, what a post!

willardx · Post by **willardx** » 20 May 2014, 09:20

maybe it hints at a lack of GG confidence, as its a bit of an insurance policy if it goes tits up against Froch. If he was confident of winning you'd think he'd remain independent?

billy nelson · Post by **billy nelson** » 20 May 2014, 09:24

zero wrote:George is obviously butt hurt Hearn is rooting for the “international super star” that is Carl Froch. Not sure where George will be fighting with this move. IMO he should have taken his time and made the decision after the fight. Froch could have well retired and George vs DeGale is a huge fight. Eddie might look to guide James down another route now.

But George v strum, Kessler, abraham would be bigger IMO than James de gale based on what those three guys have acheived

freddydoesdallas · Post by **freddydoesdallas** » 20 May 2014, 09:28

billy nelson wrote:
zero wrote:George is obviously butt hurt Hearn is rooting for the “international super star” that is Carl Froch. Not sure where George will be fighting with this move. IMO he should have taken his time and made the decision after the fight. Froch could have well retired and George vs DeGale is a huge fight. Eddie might look to guide James down another route now.
But George v strum, Kessler, abraham would be bigger IMO than James de gale based on what those three guys have acheived

Surely the DeGale fight would be a bigger money fight. Look how sky and matchroom have been able to sell this rematch because of a slightly early stoppage. They'd be able to convince the general public that their first fight was a wrong decision and getting them to part with their hard earned again. The pair of them would be happy to spend time in front of the cameras too.

All a side story though as Groves is getting sparked

DMA1987 · Post by **DMA1987** » 20 May 2014, 09:31

billy nelson wrote:
zero wrote:George is obviously butt hurt Hearn is rooting for the “international super star” that is Carl Froch. Not sure where George will be fighting with this move. IMO he should have taken his time and made the decision after the fight. Froch could have well retired and George vs DeGale is a huge fight. Eddie might look to guide James down another route now.
But George v strum, Kessler, abraham would be bigger IMO than James de gale based on what those three guys have acheived

Bigger in what sense? In terms of publicity and size, it matters more about whether they capture the imagination than what those opponents have achieved. DeGale would be a bigger fight than all 3.

zero · Post by **zero** » 20 May 2014, 10:45

The more I think about it this is a massive own goal by George he could have been the next PPV star in Britain. Will any of his fans go over to Germany to watch him fight!! As for fighting Sturm really??

palooka · Post by **palooka** » 20 May 2014, 11:02

zero wrote:The more I think about it this is a massive own goal by George he could have been the next PPV star in Britain. Will any of his fans go over to Germany to watch him fight!! As for fighting Sturm really??

I'd have thought his promoters would be able to organise a fight or 2 in Britain and it may be that US promoters and TV stations would prefer to work with the Sauerlands?

billy nelson · Post by **billy nelson** » 20 May 2014, 11:08

Fantastic move by GG the Sauerland boys work with everyone and that in itself is huge
The list of potential fights for him should he beat Carl Froch is endless and hopefully it makes him a wealthy young man