RUIZ v THE BEAST FROM THE EAST

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 13 Dec 2005, 11:47

I think Ruiz might knock out the giant late. Bookies have Valuev favorite though, as you never know with Ruiz...

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:01

Been attracting some mix views on another forum where I post. Incidently, where did you get those odds from. The guys on the other forum cannot find any.

I like Ruiz late aswell, first 3 rounds are crucial, if Valuev can strike a rhythmn early and win these rounds - he could win the fight on points. I think Ruiz has got to get something on him in these rounds.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:02

Any chance of it being on the box anywhere?

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:04

Wales wrote:Any chance of it being on the box anywhere?

Eurosport on delay is likely.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:05

I really hope Valuev wins but i am expecting Ruiz to outlast the Beast and stop him late.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:06

Live on ARD Sat night.

Odds are over at Betfair.com - Ruiz is 10/11, Valuev is 10/17

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:08

steve689 wrote:I really hope Valuev wins but i am expecting Ruiz to outlast the Beast and stop him late.

Why? If Valuev wins the belts will not get unified as the Germans will keep the title hostage over there. If Ruiz wins then the heavyweight tournament can go ahead and eventually a unified champ.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:09

nickd wrote:
steve689 wrote:I really hope Valuev wins but i am expecting Ruiz to outlast the Beast and stop him late.
Why? If Valuev wins the belts will not get unified as the Germans will keep the title hostage over there. If Ruiz wins then the heavyweight tournament can go ahead and eventually a unified champ.

How is that?
Rahman is with Arum now and Byrd and King is "breaking" up as well.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:11

Freiheit wrote:
nickd wrote:
steve689 wrote:I really hope Valuev wins but i am expecting Ruiz to outlast the Beast and stop him late.
Why? If Valuev wins the belts will not get unified as the Germans will keep the title hostage over there. If Ruiz wins then the heavyweight tournament can go ahead and eventually a unified champ.
How is that?
Rahman is with Arum now and Byrd and King is "breaking" up as well.

My mistake I thought King had them all. I'd still rather Ruiz champ than Valuev, and I think he will beat him.

steve689 · Post by **steve689** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:13

I want Valuev to win, i am sick of Ruiz and that motormouth idiot that follows him around shouting and screaming, come on Beast!!!

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:38

In todays heavyweight climate an undisputed champion is hardly likely to remain that way for long. And what with all the unrealistic mandatory requirements it would hardly seem worth unifying all the titles in the first place.

Valuev throws fairly loose, snappy punches for such a big guy. I hope he can do it, I never enjoy seeing a gentle monster brought to his knees. Oh and I've never liked Ruiz...

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 13 Dec 2005, 12:52

Yeah I'd like to see the big man do it - can't help feeling sorry for the guy with the sideshow freak jokes, hope he does it and wont be surprised if he beats Ruiz at all - after all, if you need a heavyweight belt, John is yer man!

http://www.fightnews.com/valuevpads.jpg

Timmbo · Post by **Timmbo** » 13 Dec 2005, 13:50

I think the refs gonna have to work hard on the night if they both havn't shaved their chests..anybody heard of the Velcro effect?

E · Post by E » 13 Dec 2005, 14:12

MightyWarrior wrote:Live on ARD Sat night.

Odds are over at Betfair.com - Ruiz is 10/11, Valuev is 10/17

Yeah - the thing is with betfair is that the odds get a lot better nearer the fight (because it is punters who control the odds, not bookies.)

So these odds are prob not indicative. Wait til on eof the traditional bookies put the odds up or nearer the event on betfair.

Anyway I see Valuev winning on points in a none too thrilling typical Ruiz affair.

tonyevs · Post by **tonyevs** » 13 Dec 2005, 15:23

I fancy Valuev to stop Ruiz...early.

Ruiz likes to hold and smother and spoil, how will he do that to the `Beast from the east`

Ruiz won`t be strong enough to get away with his usual tactics, and then we really will have the WORST ever champion

dve3333 · Post by **dve3333** » 13 Dec 2005, 15:42

I can imagine that Ruiz wont get away with his spoiling tactics in a German ring and that the ref will be onto John early

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 13 Dec 2005, 15:45

dve3333 wrote:I can imagine that Ruiz wont get away with his spoiling tactics in a German ring and that the ref will be onto John early

yeah, i can see Don King standing ringside shouting at the referee for not playing his game...... see Benn v G-Man

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 13 Dec 2005, 15:47

tonyevs wrote:I fancy Valuev to stop Ruiz...early.

Ruiz likes to hold and smother and spoil, how will he do that to the `Beast from the east`

Ruiz won`t be strong enough to get away with his usual tactics, and then we really will have the WORST ever champion

Ruiz wont need to hold and smother, even he is faster than that big lump.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 13 Dec 2005, 15:48

tonyevs wrote:I fancy Valuev to stop Ruiz...early.

Ruiz likes to hold and smother and spoil, how will he do that to the `Beast from the east`

Ruiz won`t be strong enough to get away with his usual tactics, and then we really will have the WORST ever champion

Valuev isn't a huge puncher though.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 13 Dec 2005, 16:04

I hope Valuev will win since it means that I will be able to see more world title fights live on TV.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 13 Dec 2005, 16:16

Freiheit wrote:I hope Valuev will win since it means that I will be able to see more world title fights live on TV.

and at a decent time too!!!!!!

Smit · Post by **Smit** » 14 Dec 2005, 07:05

Valuev KO 8

Hoping to catch this fight on a live stream or download it the next day... Eurosport usually shows Valuev fights a few weeks after the bout

shot · Post by **shot** » 14 Dec 2005, 07:09

I also hope for Valuev but i'm often wrong on predicting Ruiz fights.

REAL_DEAL · Post by **REAL_DEAL** » 14 Dec 2005, 08:32

Hard to say, rioz seems most affective when he bear hugs fighters to death, i dont think he can with valaev. i think valeav will win on points.

Boxing Addict · Post by **Boxing Addict** » 14 Dec 2005, 09:21

This valuev is awful, cannot box or punch, really big though, but nothing else. Ruiz should win, but cannot do it with his usual style, hugging and stuff.

RUIZ v THE BEAST FROM THE EAST

RUIZ v THE BEAST FROM THE EAST

Valuev cannot box