anyone doing a rd by rd ruiz of valuev

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 17 Dec 2005, 14:37

Im sure it'll consist of lots of hugging and not very much actual fighting etc... but could be interesting all the same.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 15:23

I will.
The fights is also being shown on a norwegian channel that I can see, so Ill use that one instead of ARD.

I will also make a little change in my scoring system, since there probably will he alot of hugging ect it could be a lot of close rounds. So Ill also keep a total score of close rounds that could go either way since I dont like having 10-10 rounds. So a total could be 115-113 Valuev with both winning 2 clearly and then 8 very close rounds, so the total score could be from 118-110 Valuev to 118-110 Ruiz.
It could really turn out to be one of the most boring fights in history and very little that determins who wins rounds. Did all that make sence

NB: If its a huge hug fest I might even try to count the hugs in each round.

armageto · Post by **armageto** » 17 Dec 2005, 15:39

Thanks Freiheit......I'm somewhat interested in seeing if the giant can wrestle the belt away from Ruiz. I also have some money on the over.....

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:04

superb

thanks!!

what time are they due in the ring??

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:05

10pm UK time I think..

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:08

I'm out tonight so will tape it & watch later.

German show starts at 9.30 UK time, but they usualy have a 1/2 hour buildup ( highlights of Ruiz in some great clinches I assume )

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:08

Norwegian TV starts 23.10 CET and they will start with that fight and then Dubunin and Ali vs Sandell delayed. ARD starts 22.25CET and I think they are showing Ali vs Sandell live

states · Post by **states** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:08

Cheers Freiheit, you are without a doubt the man for mainland European fights.

What time is the Ruiz-Valuev fight likely to start? 11:00 CET? or later? Either way, cheers for covering it Soren, it is appreciated.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:09

Fancy Valuev but ive fancied numerous fighters to beat ruiz, shame valuevs power isnt relative to his size otherwise we'd have a real interesting fighter.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 17 Dec 2005, 16:10

Freiheit - what's your guess for Ruiz live - 11.30 CET? Ends at 1am CET I think

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:03

MightyWarrior wrote:I'm out tonight so will tape it & watch later.

German show starts at 9.30 UK time, but they usualy have a 1/2 hour buildup ( highlights of Ruiz in some great clinches I assume )

How do you receive the Norwegian channel, Rob?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:05

I'll be here watching, Glued to the thread so to speak. I take it there are no internet broadcasts of this.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:08

theres one that you'd need to pay 3euros for a months viewing of (about 2 GBP) but thats it.... if you need the url i can find it for you...

dandantheweatherman · Post by **dandantheweatherman** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:12

I'm hoping Valuev starts just as the Barcelona game ends. That would be convienient.

Close rounds with lots of mauling/pawing of jabs do my swede in. For example, last week I had Harrison just nicking it on the basis of his work being marginally cleaner in the first 8 or so rounds when Williams mauled and Harrison pawed. I see Boxing News subscribed (and I guess the judge who scored for Harrison) to a similar theory. Do judges have some sort of guidelines they have to follow in these sort of situations?

Anyway, I'm curious how this fight will work out (I like Valuev on points or late stoppage), so I'll watch it.

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:12

Hmm what does that come down to in US currency? Or am I even eligible? Although I have very much appreciated the round by round updates here in the past. So this works for me fairly well. Oh and would the commentary be in German? I'm guessing it would, not that I need commentary to see what is going on.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:16

3 dollars, commentery would be german i suppose.

Wales · Post by **Wales** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:18

http://www.streamtvnow.tv/

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:22

Broadcast just started.

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:24

KO Atrist wrote:
MightyWarrior wrote:I'm out tonight so will tape it & watch later.

German show starts at 9.30 UK time, but they usualy have a 1/2 hour buildup ( highlights of Ruiz in some great clinches I assume )
How do you receive the Norwegian channel, Rob?

I'll be taping German ARD TV John, used to be on old Astra analogue system, but is now on hotbird digital satellite - free to air. Just need a box and a dish pointing a little right of Sky satellite.

Think Valuev might get home on points with the jab...hard to say though.

Check Ant Evans preview over at secondsout - sounds like he had his sun bed nicked - reckons the fix could be in 8) 8)

MightyWarrior · Post by **MightyWarrior** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:26

http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=18209

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:27

Wladimir Klitschko is the expert in the "studio" tonight instead of Sven Ottke.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:31

Muhammed Ali has not arrived yet, the germans will not start the fight until he is ringside.

dandantheweatherman · Post by **dandantheweatherman** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:32

I was surprised Boxing News tipped Ruiz on a split decision...this implies a close fight, and going against the 'home fighter' in a close fight (especially in a country where there is 'previous' with close fights, eg Germany and UK) is a brave pick.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:35

MightyWarrior wrote:www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=18209

"Funny things happen in Germany under these sort of circumstances and with <b>no US or international TV</b> and Ruiz's lack of respect within the sport, well, the Germans have been handled a charter to cheat."
The card has been sold to over 30 countries...

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 17 Dec 2005, 17:40

Don King being interviewed. He confirms that the has options on the next 4 Valuev fights. "Ich bin ein Böööliner"