Burns vs Mitchell 2 if it occured

[jackukmma]

Watch Ricky bounce back in Leeds, he's still easily the best LW in the UK
Doesn't need matched against 5ft 4" southpaw midgets

Bit of a stretch when hes lost his last 3 comfortably. Id back Crolla and Mitchell to beat him at this point and probably Campbell and Flanagan too

[crusader]

Would you back Crolla, Mitchell, Flannigan, and Campbell (a bit untested there!) to beat Crawford, Beltran, and Dejan :??

I'd say Dejan is about Euro level and Ricky arguably won fix or six rounds, so I'd still consider him at least a Euro level fighter, and I don't think Mitchell and co. are at a higher level even at this point in Burns's career. Let's not forget that Mitchell was down 6-4 in his last bout, which came against someone even less proven than Dejan, and far less proven and probably significantly worse than Crawford and Beltran.

I'd favor Burns to beat Mitchell again, though I wouldn't be highly confident.

[Taansend]

Mitchell just won a final eliminator (although the next day weight thing didn't help) whereas Burns hasn't won his last three.

Kevin is looking at fighting for a title whereas Ricky is looking at just getting a win.

In career terms right now, a Burns fight is a step back for Mitchell.

Well I'd consider Burns to be a big step up for Mitchell and I'd expect him to lose again.

As I stated in my original post, it's not about who I think would win but where each fighter is in terms of a title shots right now. Burns is a step down for Mitchell who is on the cusp of a title shot, whilst Burns is in rebuilding mode.

[Horse]

As I stated in my original post, it's not about who I think would win but where each fighter is in terms of a title shots right now. Burns is a step down for Mitchell who is on the cusp of a title shot, whilst Burns is in rebuilding mode.

It's not a step down though.

I doubt Mitchell will fight someone better than Burns in his next fight.

[Rockys gum shield]

I think Burns was on the decline before the jaw break, I honestly think Mitchell would beat him now.

[Taansend]

As I stated in my original post, it's not about who I think would win but where each fighter is in terms of a title shots right now. Burns is a step down for Mitchell who is on the cusp of a title shot, whilst Burns is in rebuilding mode.

It's not a step down though.

I doubt Mitchell will fight someone better than Burns in his next fight.

It IS a step down if he can fight for a title in his next fight.

I do not understand your difficulty in getting this point. And I ain't saying that as a dig.

I'm not saying that Mitchell will beat Burns or is a better fighter, but since their bout Mitchell has won a few & a final eliminator whereas Burns has drawn & lost a couple.

Mitchells next fight should be for a world title - therefore a fight against Burns would be a step down for him. Burns is at least two fights away from a title shot - and I might be generous in that.

[stujones]

As poor as burns has looked recently, he's looked less shot than Mitchell did last time. Kevin looked like he'd lost a step in hand speed. So for me still burns. Although burns now or Mitchell per burns I would go for Kevin.

[crusader]

As poor as burns has looked recently, he's looked less shot than Mitchell did last time. Kevin looked like he'd lost a step in hand speed. So for me still burns. Although burns now or Mitchell per burns I would go for Kevin.

Yes, I think some people are overlooking Mitchell's last performance because he won (the result hardly tells the full story) and because Ricky's had a higher profile decline. I think Kevin's last opponent was probably worse than Burns's and Mitchell did about just as poorly for the large majority of the fight.

At this point it seems fairly close though. If this happens I'd like to see Burns pick up a win and get some momentum and perhaps confidence back first.

[Horse]

It IS a step down if he can fight for a title in his next fight.

I do not understand your difficulty in getting this point. And I ain't saying that as a dig.

It's a step down from a fight that he probably won't get? In reality it isn't a step down.

I'm not saying that Mitchell will beat Burns or is a better fighter, but since their bout Mitchell has won a few & a final eliminator whereas Burns has drawn & lost a couple.

Mitchells next fight should be for a world title - therefore a fight against Burns would be a step down for him. Burns is at least two fights away from a title shot - and I might be generous in that.

Mitchell's next fight should not be for a world title. He does not deserve a world title shot.

[davie]

I predicted Ricky on point for the first fight and was surprised at how comfortably he won

Ricky has declined since but i still think he'd win, it would be closer but i still fancy Ricky for a narrow points win

[mickey1975]

I think Mitchell is about as deserving of a World title shot as Paul Smith and has even less chance of winning one. I don't see how anyone has him as world class.

[lillywhite14]

I think Mitchell is about as deserving of a World title shot as Paul Smith and has even less chance of winning one. I don't see how anyone has him as world class.

He has had a band of loyal, slightly deluded fans since his amateur days. Always had a slightly skewed rating. Good fighter with lots of ability but world class fighters bash him up. Could be argued that those that bashed him up weren't top of the tree either. Katsidis could never beat the top guys and was shop worn when he was brough over to lose.

[jessi]

Mitchell

[Yes We Can]

I think Mitchell is about as deserving of a World title shot as Paul Smith and has even less chance of winning one. I don't see how anyone has him as world class.

He has had a band of loyal, slightly deluded fans since his amateur days. Always had a slightly skewed rating. Good fighter with lots of ability but world class fighters bash him up. Could be argued that those that bashed him up weren't top of the tree either. Katsidis could never beat the top guys and was shop worn when he was brough over to lose.

Mitchell has far better wins than Paul Smith.

He doesnt deserve a title shot again, but he's done significantly more in his career than Smith. it's not even close

[Crazyboy]

Mitchell

You've always backed Mitchell though

[jackukmma]

Would you back Crolla, Mitchell, Flannigan, and Campbell (a bit untested there!) to beat Crawford, Beltran, and Dejan :??

I'd say Dejan is about Euro level and Ricky arguably won fix or six rounds, so I'd still consider him at least a Euro level fighter, and I don't think Mitchell and co. are at a higher level even at this point in Burns's career. Let's not forget that Mitchell was down 6-4 in his last bout, which came against someone even less proven than Dejan, and far less proven and probably significantly worse than Crawford and Beltran.

I'd favor Burns to beat Mitchell again, though I wouldn't be highly confident.

Have to take the Gonzalez fight into consideration too, he just doesn't look the same fighter after the Mitchell fight

[expe]

Would you back Crolla, Mitchell, Flannigan, and Campbell (a bit untested there!) to beat Crawford, Beltran, and Dejan :??

I'd say Dejan is about Euro level and Ricky arguably won fix or six rounds, so I'd still consider him at least a Euro level fighter, and I don't think Mitchell and co. are at a higher level even at this point in Burns's career. Let's not forget that Mitchell was down 6-4 in his last bout, which came against someone even less proven than Dejan, and far less proven and probably significantly worse than Crawford and Beltran.

I'd favor Burns to beat Mitchell again, though I wouldn't be highly confident.

Have to take the Gonzalez fight into consideration too, he just doesn't look the same fighter after the Mitchell fight

Gonzalez was a stylistic nightmare, slick, big punching switch hitter was always going to be difficult for him and he still got the job done, even in the first couple of rounds of the Beltran fight he looked pretty comfortable until the jaw went, after that he hasn't been the same, but he hasn't been beat up or anything, just looks like all confidence has gone from him. I'm with crusader, he's somewhere around European level, give him a couple of confidence boosters and he's still the best lightweight in the country by far.

[jessi]

Mitchell

You've always backed Mitchell though

Yes true but taking my Mitchell hat off I just believe burns is done and Mitchell would win this time 100%

[crusader]

Would you back Crolla, Mitchell, Flannigan, and Campbell (a bit untested there!) to beat Crawford, Beltran, and Dejan :??

I'd say Dejan is about Euro level and Ricky arguably won fix or six rounds, so I'd still consider him at least a Euro level fighter, and I don't think Mitchell and co. are at a higher level even at this point in Burns's career. Let's not forget that Mitchell was down 6-4 in his last bout, which came against someone even less proven than Dejan, and far less proven and probably significantly worse than Crawford and Beltran.

I'd favor Burns to beat Mitchell again, though I wouldn't be highly confident.

Have to take the Gonzalez fight into consideration too, he just doesn't look the same fighter after the Mitchell fight

True, but how does he compare with the Mitchell who was clearly losing to untested Maduma for 10 rounds? I also don't doubt that even the regressed Burns would handily beat fighters like Mikheil Avakyani, Karim El Ouazghari, and Sebastien Benito.

[handsofstone]

Maduma looked excellent at the start of the Mitchell fight,luckily for Kevin he faded fast,i wonder how he would've fared against Zlaticanin

[crusader]

I think Mitchell is about as deserving of a World title shot as Paul Smith and has even less chance of winning one. I don't see how anyone has him as world class.

He has had a band of loyal, slightly deluded fans since his amateur days. Always had a slightly skewed rating. Good fighter with lots of ability but world class fighters bash him up. Could be argued that those that bashed him up weren't top of the tree either. Katsidis could never beat the top guys and was shop worn when he was brough over to lose.

Yep, I think his fights with Katsidis and Burns show where Mitchell is relative to world class fighters. He has never been more than a European level fighter in my view.

[Manchester Hitman]

Burns is totally finished and although Mitchell isn't far behind I think I would have him as my slight favourite.

As for some of the other lightweights, I reckon Terry Flannighan would handle both, Crolla would give both a good run but just fall short, Campbell to early for him, Coyle will lose to both, Mathews would be a war but he would lose to both

[Final round]

Maduma looked excellent at the start of the Mitchell fight,luckily for Kevin he faded fast,i wonder how he would've fared against Zlaticanin

Yes Muduma was giving him serious trouble. That was a good fight

[mikiesb]

Mitchell is.on the up and is.giving his all his last.fight he was.down on the cards.and turned it round..burns. Unfortunately.icant.see.doing anything special.maybe.win a British or common wealth.title.he does.not.appear.to.be.hungry he has been.a.world.champ motivation etc.etc.Kevin.not been world.champ yet.and.I can see he.is really.trying in his fights . shame about Ricky hope he proves.me wrong I think he has not been the same since the jaw break fight which he did well to even finish.the.fight that took heart but
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Maybe.took much out of.him

[davor1]

Maduma looked excellent at the start of the Mitchell fight,luckily for Kevin he faded fast,i wonder how he would've fared against Zlaticanin

Zlaticanin will knock him out. Mitchell is good fighter but he is not brave. If he felt strong punche he dont know how to fight