Boxers after retirement
Boxers after retirement
I was just wondering, what do a lot of these guys end up doing work wise after they retire? I mean outside of the ones who become trainers or whatever. A lot of them retire and then we never hear anything from or about them ever again so yeah just curious really.
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All manner of stuff. How long's a piece of string?
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Haha fairpoint. Does there to be any kind of theme's though of work that a lot end up in.Sklar wrote:All manner of stuff. How long's a piece of string?
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Boxerbeetle
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Sadly, the theme for many retired boxers is bankruptcy, particularly in the US.lefty wrote:Haha fairpoint. Does there to be any kind of theme's though of work that a lot end up in.Sklar wrote:All manner of stuff. How long's a piece of string?
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Pretty depressing really huh.Boxerbeetle wrote:Sadly, the theme for many retired boxers is bankruptcy, particularly in the US.lefty wrote:Haha fairpoint. Does there to be any kind of theme's though of work that a lot end up in.Sklar wrote:All manner of stuff. How long's a piece of string?
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Boxerbeetle
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I always imagine a lot of retired boxers in the UK go on to run/own pubs, it's what I'd do if I'd made a decent but not spectacular return from fighting.
It could be a decent article for Boxing Monthly, detailing some interesting or unusual post-boxing careers.
It could be a decent article for Boxing Monthly, detailing some interesting or unusual post-boxing careers.
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Define 'many' if you could? By any definition of many I would use, not many retired boxers end up bankrupt. Many may end up potless but that's not necessarily the same as bankrupt.Boxerbeetle wrote:Sadly, the theme for many retired boxers is bankruptcy, particularly in the US.lefty wrote:Haha fairpoint. Does there to be any kind of theme's though of work that a lot end up in.Sklar wrote:All manner of stuff. How long's a piece of string?
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Old bones Ian
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You may as well go and throw all your money out the window than run a pub.Boxerbeetle wrote:I always imagine a lot of retired boxers in the UK go on to run/own pubs, it's what I'd do if I'd made a decent but not spectacular return from fighting.
It could be a decent article for Boxing Monthly, detailing some interesting or unusual post-boxing careers.
If you think some promoters/managers are ruthless in boxing, they are nothing compared to the vast majority of pub companies. They let license holders plough all their money in, before forcing them out.
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That sounds like the bitter knowledge of experience. You're right, of course, the pub trade is even harder than boxing. Out of the frying pan into the fire.Old bones Ian wrote:You may as well go and throw all your money out the window than run a pub.Boxerbeetle wrote:I always imagine a lot of retired boxers in the UK go on to run/own pubs, it's what I'd do if I'd made a decent but not spectacular return from fighting.
It could be a decent article for Boxing Monthly, detailing some interesting or unusual post-boxing careers.
If you think some promoters/managers are ruthless in boxing, they are nothing compared to the vast majority of pub companies. They let license holders plough all their money in, before forcing them out.
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Ovil McKenzie is a doorman ain't he? He seems to have a good balance. Young pro's should go to collage/Uni and get qualifications in fitness & nutrition. Not only will it benefit them in their career, it will also give them a back-up plan come retirement.
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Boxerbeetle
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Yeah it's a tough industry with hugely squeezed margins at the moment. Not saying it's an easy way to make a living, just always imagined many former boxers going on to run pubs. (Actually I can now only think of Gavin Rees & Tom Cribb off the top of my head, but I'm sure there's a load in between!)Old bones Ian wrote:You may as well go and throw all your money out the window than run a pub.Boxerbeetle wrote:I always imagine a lot of retired boxers in the UK go on to run/own pubs, it's what I'd do if I'd made a decent but not spectacular return from fighting.
It could be a decent article for Boxing Monthly, detailing some interesting or unusual post-boxing careers.
If you think some promoters/managers are ruthless in boxing, they are nothing compared to the vast majority of pub companies. They let license holders plough all their money in, before forcing them out.
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a lot go into door work or security ,julius francis is head of security at a department store near me and wayne alexander has just finished his security course also didn't earnie shavers do door work over here
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Shavers worked the doors in Liverpool, I think.stevedoc wrote:a lot go into door work or security ,julius francis is head of security at a department store near me and wayne alexander has just finished his security course also didn't earnie shavers do door work over here
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I think that this question should be more specific , If your talking about a lot of say pro boxers who were up there but never quite made any money , i'm sure we can come up with dozens , hundreds , perhaps thousands who had hard times after , based purely on the fact a lot of these more talented guys never got an education .
But if you want to talk about , say an average boxer , with average or better education , well i think you will be suprised how many have done well , I myself was only average , i only had education till the age of 13 , but i managed to retire early, financially secure . I cast my mind back to a lot of lads i trained with , or later in life trained them ,, and a awful lot have done very well , working for themselves running small buisnesses ,, I don't know any who are has smart has Bill Gates , or will have has much has him ,, but by and large , i think the drive that made them a boxer , makes them reasonnably succesful
Obviously thats not everyone , but it does apply to a lot .
But if you want to talk about , say an average boxer , with average or better education , well i think you will be suprised how many have done well , I myself was only average , i only had education till the age of 13 , but i managed to retire early, financially secure . I cast my mind back to a lot of lads i trained with , or later in life trained them ,, and a awful lot have done very well , working for themselves running small buisnesses ,, I don't know any who are has smart has Bill Gates , or will have has much has him ,, but by and large , i think the drive that made them a boxer , makes them reasonnably succesful
Obviously thats not everyone , but it does apply to a lot .
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Steve Roberts (Light middle from West Ham) retired to run a B&B in Scotland.
Apart from that I've known many boxers (lower level) who went on to do "door work" at pubs & clubs
Apart from that I've known many boxers (lower level) who went on to do "door work" at pubs & clubs
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Old bones Ian wrote:You may as well go and throw all your money out the window than run a pub.Boxerbeetle wrote:I always imagine a lot of retired boxers in the UK go on to run/own pubs, it's what I'd do if I'd made a decent but not spectacular return from fighting.
It could be a decent article for Boxing Monthly, detailing some interesting or unusual post-boxing careers.
If you think some promoters/managers are ruthless in boxing, they are nothing compared to the vast majority of pub companies. They let license holders plough all their money in, before forcing them out.
spot on mate
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Earnie was more of a greeter, mate, to my knowledge (and I may be wrong) he never really got involved in bouncing people in the traditional sense. He's big mates with Kenny Rainford, the work he did on Merseyside was with him.King Tubby wrote:Shavers worked the doors in Liverpool, I think.stevedoc wrote:a lot go into door work or security ,julius francis is head of security at a department store near me and wayne alexander has just finished his security course also didn't earnie shavers do door work over here
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I know two youth workers, a bus driver, a factory worker, two in prison, two other criminals, a plasterer, an unlicensed promoter, a prison officer, a mental health worker and a gym owner! That's off the top of my head out of people I know, so basically anything!
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More and more seem to be understandably going into fitness-related activities such as PT.
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robin reid seemed to of got it right ..porn star...
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Sklar wrote:Earnie was more of a greeter, mate, to my knowledge (and I may be wrong) he never really got involved in bouncing people in the traditional sense. He's big mates with Kenny Rainford, the work he did on Merseyside was with him.King Tubby wrote:Shavers worked the doors in Liverpool, I think.stevedoc wrote:a lot go into door work or security ,julius francis is head of security at a department store near me and wayne alexander has just finished his security course also didn't earnie shavers do door work over here
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Boxerbeetle
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Didn't Reid do his porn work in the middle of his boxing career when he was on a bit of a slump? I might be wrong (I haven't seen the films!), but I seem to remember that was the case, I'm sure I remember Ian Darke referring to it before a fight.stevedoc wrote:robin reid seemed to of got it right ..porn star...
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Boxerbeetle wrote:Didn't Reid do his porn work in the middle of his boxing career when he was on a bit of a slump? I might be wrong (I haven't seen the films!), but I seem to remember that was the case, I'm sure I remember Ian Darke referring to it before a fight.stevedoc wrote:robin reid seemed to of got it right ..porn star...
i think you're right he was shagging teresa may (not the mp) who did wank mags and a few porn films so i guess she got him into it or he meet her while he was doing