Anthony Crolla's Attacker

[expe]

None of the above. They got him based on his description, but Crolla said he's 100% not the guy.

So you're basically telling us that the police picked up a random guy on a description that Crolla gave the police, after he'd been smashed in head and presumably Ko'd or at least head scrambled? And in the dark!? He would barely have got a decent look at the burglar.

And you're trying to tell us that on the strength of that 'description' they picked someone up?

And as you say Crolla says he knew it wasn't the right guy; which means they must've held an ID parade? Was that mentioned? And how did he know that the 'suspected individual' wasn't the right guy?

He wouldn't know who the suspect actually was if there was an ID parade.

I'm not saying it wasn't what you were told Terry, but it's hardly a conspiracy theory of Icke Royal Lizard proportions to suggest the full truth is not bring told.

Description narrows it down, they know he's local, narrows it down even further, then there's the people who match both of those that aren't going to be out robbing houses, so they can be eliminated. Get down to a reasonable number, then start investigating them, probably be able to knock a few off through that, then pick out the one that's most likely to be in that area, at that time, attempting to break into a house.

[reggaereggae]

None of the above. They got him based on his description, but Crolla said he's 100% not the guy.

So you're basically telling us that the police picked up a random guy on a description that Crolla gave the police, after he'd been smashed in head and presumably Ko'd or at least head scrambled? And in the dark!? He would barely have got a decent look at the burglar.

And you're trying to tell us that on the strength of that 'description' they picked someone up?

And as you say Crolla says he knew it wasn't the right guy; which means they must've held an ID parade? Was that mentioned? And how did he know that the 'suspected individual' wasn't the right guy?

He wouldn't know who the suspect actually was if there was an ID parade.

I'm not saying it wasn't what you were told Terry, but it's hardly a conspiracy theory of Icke Royal Lizard proportions to suggest the full truth is not bring told.

Description narrows it down, they know he's local, narrows it down even further, then there's the people who match both of those that aren't going to be out robbing houses, so they can be eliminated. Get down to a reasonable number, then start investigating them, probably be able to knock a few off through that, then pick out the one that's most likely to be in that area, at that time, attempting to break into a house.

Yeah ok maybe. But can or would the police really arrest someone who is a local burglar just because he vaguely matches a description? I imagine they would want a bit more info before they move.

The description is likely to have been 'skinny white guy, looks like a smach head, baseball cap, trainers er er that's it".

Sounds like they'd have to pull in half of Manchester LOL

I suppose it's feasible, I don t know how it works.

[veriton]

someone gets done over (brook, moore, crolla)

it's all a terrible mistake

no credible description given to the police so no chance of offender being caught

story of innocence printed verbatim

i fall asleep

[SNG]

I suspect the illuminati too.

[banjo]

I kind of get what veriton is saying, people very rarely get shot or stabbed for no reason, sometimes there is the mistaken identity thing, caught in the crossfire or just being unlucky enough to be the target of some random nutjob.

[danamba7]

I kind of get what veriton is saying, people very rarely get shot or stabbed for no reason, sometimes there is the mistaken identity thing, caught in the crossfire or just being unlucky enough to be the target of some random nutjob.

But the Crolla situation pretty much all makes sense.

[banjo]

I kind of get what veriton is saying, people very rarely get shot or stabbed for no reason, sometimes there is the mistaken identity thing, caught in the crossfire or just being unlucky enough to be the target of some random nutjob.

I can understand that, but not in the case of Crolla. Does this dude think he was engaged in cross country fighting or something?

I don't believe so either, I just think it was a case of "have-a-go-hero" gone badly, fortunately he seems to be on the up.

[SNG]

There's definitely something odd about the Brook incident, but what's there to be said about Crolla's?

[reggaereggae]

I know plenty of people who have been stabbed, beaten up, attacked. And not a single one has been because of 'mistaken identity' or 'random bad luck, wrong place wrong time."

[palooka]

Brook's is iffy, Moore's is probably mistaken identity though there is supposed to be a few fast characters at the MGM, Corolla was most likely doing what he said and it most likely went down like he said.

[Crazyboy]

I know plenty of people who have been stabbed, beaten up, attacked. And not a single one has been because of 'mistaken identity' or 'random bad luck, wrong place wrong time."

but that's where you are going wrong, he was only smashed over the head because he intervened in something by instinct that was happening there and then. Not because of a turf war, or a grudge or anything else....

I also know a lot of people who have been beaten up, stabbed etc but the situations are completely different.


Jesus...what is it with everyone...

[veriton]

I know plenty of people who have been stabbed, beaten up, attacked. And not a single one has been because of 'mistaken identity' or 'random bad luck, wrong place wrong time."

but that's where you are going wrong, he was only smashed over the head because he intervened in something by instinct that was happening there and then. Not because of a turf war, or a grudge or anything else....

I also know a lot of people who have been beaten up, stabbed etc but the situations are completely different.


Jesus...what is it with everyone...

Jesus indeed. You're taking version of the person who it happened to as gospel.

[Crazyboy]

I know plenty of people who have been stabbed, beaten up, attacked. And not a single one has been because of 'mistaken identity' or 'random bad luck, wrong place wrong time."

but that's where you are going wrong, he was only smashed over the head because he intervened in something by instinct that was happening there and then. Not because of a turf war, or a grudge or anything else....

I also know a lot of people who have been beaten up, stabbed etc but the situations are completely different.


Jesus...what is it with everyone...

Jesus indeed. You're taking version of the person who it happened to as gospel.

I tend to see the good in people rather than the opposite, maybe I have that wrong and should take your approach.

I'd rather not though.

[palooka]

You think Crolla was out robbing sheds and brained himself on a window sill?

[Teddy's Toupee]

He was out cleaning windows to earn a few extra quid and slipped and brained himself on a windowsill. He needs to invest in one of your tutorials.

[mickey1975]

Brook's is iffy, Moore's is probably mistaken identity though there is supposed to be a few fast characters at the MGM, Corolla was most likely doing what he said and it most likely went down like he said.

I agree with all that. Anyone involved with MGM is in danger. They're big players.

[Wales]

From the highest point of his career, to being plunged to an all-time low thanks to a good deed for his neighbour, Anthony Crolla is fighting back to gain what is rightfully his.

1000 words of unchallenged quotes all wrapped up with a sweet ending. I can see it all now and I'm a subscriber. I hope Im surprised (but I havent read a negative - real - story yet)

Why don't you ghostwrite and submit the real story with help from KBB and David Icke? I'm not sure how losing the world title opportunity and sweating on the Board's decision when the time comes counts as a 'sweet ending', either, but to each their own.

It's more than 1000 words BTW.

More than a 1000 words.... Youve changed

[thepocketrocket]

Brook's is iffy, Moore's is probably mistaken identity though there is supposed to be a few fast characters at the MGM, Corolla was most likely doing what he said and it most likely went down like he said.

I agree with all that. Anyone involved with MGM is in danger. They're big players.

I don't get shot because I don't go partying with Kinahan and friends! Seems simple enough!

[gb]

Other than the fact that they're both white men, I can't see much similarity between Jamie Moore and that Kavanagh fella. How many stockily built chaps with shaven/ cropped hair must there be knocking about boxing gyms?
If I was a hitman, I'd want a bit more description to go on that just "shoot the next 12stone(ish), shaven haired white bloke that looks between 30-50 and a bit like a boxer"!
Also, the fact that Kavanagh was turned into a colander whereas Moore was just(!) shot in the legs seems a bit odd.

[veriton]

Other than the fact that they're both white men, I can't see much similarity between Jamie Moore and that Kavanagh fella. How many stockily built chaps with shaven/ cropped hair must there be knocking about boxing gyms?
If I was a hitman, I'd want a bit more description to go on that just "shoot the next 12stone(ish), shaven haired white bloke that looks between 30-50 and a bit like a boxer"!
Also, the fact that Kavanagh was turned into a colander whereas Moore was just(!) shot in the legs seems a bit odd.

dont question the cover story mate, youll get shouted down.

[expe]

Other than the fact that they're both white men, I can't see much similarity between Jamie Moore and that Kavanagh fella. How many stockily built chaps with shaven/ cropped hair must there be knocking about boxing gyms?
If I was a hitman, I'd want a bit more description to go on that just "shoot the next 12stone(ish), shaven haired white bloke that looks between 30-50 and a bit like a boxer"!
Also, the fact that Kavanagh was turned into a colander whereas Moore was just(!) shot in the legs seems a bit odd.

They are/were of similar build and same haircut, it was at night and Moore was going back into Daniel Kinahan's house. In the dark, seeing someone that looked similar to Kavanagh, going into his bosses house was probably enough for them to pull the trigger. Second time round I would guess they either used someone that was a better shot, or the same shooter made sure after fornicating up the first time.

[palooka]

Weren't there 3 shooters that killed the gangster? Moore was very lucky not to have lost his life.

[expe]

Weren't there 3 shooters that killed the gangster? Moore was very lucky not to have lost his life.

Woman distracted him, 2 ran in and shot him.

[gb]

Other than the fact that they're both white men, I can't see much similarity between Jamie Moore and that Kavanagh fella. How many stockily built chaps with shaven/ cropped hair must there be knocking about boxing gyms?
If I was a hitman, I'd want a bit more description to go on that just "shoot the next 12stone(ish), shaven haired white bloke that looks between 30-50 and a bit like a boxer"!
Also, the fact that Kavanagh was turned into a colander whereas Moore was just(!) shot in the legs seems a bit odd.

They are/were of similar build and same haircut, it was at night and Moore was going back into Daniel Kinahan's house. In the dark, seeing someone that looked similar to Kavanagh, going into his bosses house was probably enough for them to pull the trigger. Second time round I would guess they either used someone that was a better shot, or the same shooter made sure after effing up the first time.

I'm no expert, but surely you've got to be a seriously poor shot to aim for someone's head and get them in the legs. I probably would, but then again I've never been hired to shoot anybody!

[palooka]

It might have been his first time, got to try and be understanding, wonder if his mates gave him grief over how crap he is at his job?