judges again...

Ricky_
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Post by Ricky_ »

the connected guy huh, never in doubt. Those cards were a joke, Algieri dominated Khan.
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Post by CrazyHorse »

Did Algeiri really dominate khan? i missed the fight. Here I don't know why a lot of ppl counted out ol Algeiri. Kept reading threads that Khan was going to knock him out lol
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Post by Blodhemn »

Algieri didn't dominate, you're sounding as delusional as the people who scored it wide for Khan. It was the perfect example of a draw, but if you had to lean toward either guy, I'd give it to Algieri as he connected to the head and body with more authority with just a bit more regularity, as Khan had more moments of throwing non-connecting fluff. It pretty much says it all when Algieri appeared to be the harder puncher of the two.
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Post by ikorolev »

Judges did a fine job this time. They did a poor job when they gave Algieri a win over Provo.
Permante
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Post by Permante »

6 Peoples on a forum has 116-112 for Algieri :-?
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Post by CrazyHorse »

Mayweather should give Amir a list of "approved" fighters of Floyd's choice to beat in order to secure a Floyd fight. If I were Floyd I would say get through Lucas Matthysse at 147 then you got a shot. If not go fight someone else :TU:
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Post by armageto »

I thought Khan won clear. 116-112 range sounds about right. There is ZERO way Chris won 7 rounds, nor dominated. It was a spirited effort from him and I think the switch on trainers will work out good for him. He showed in the Pacman fight he is nowhere near the A level and tonight he showed he's still a ways off on the level below that.
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Post by sucracristo »

CrazyHorse wrote:Mayweather should give Amir a list of "approved" fighters of Floyd's choice to beat in order to secure a Floyd fight. If I were Floyd I would say get through Lucas Matthysse at 147 then you got a shot. If not go fight someone else :TU:
or bradley, marquez, thurman, brook, porter.
personally, i think rios might catch him and it would be fun to watch rios take that silver or whatever
title he's carrying from him.
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Post by sucracristo »

ikorolev wrote:Judges did a fine job this time. They did a poor job when they gave Algieri a win over Provo.
you can't land 3 hard shots and get outscored 47-1 and expect a victory.
get over it. provo got outworked worse than anyone in recent history in a title fight.
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Post by CrazyHorse »

If I were Floyd I would take the Khan fight. Load up the undercard and leave the sport of boxing with a spectacular Pacquiao/Hatton esque KO of Amir Khan :box:


Might not be AS good as that knockout but I'd bet good good money that Floyd stops him in 6-8 rounds
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Post by Lancenix »

I scored it 116-113 for Kahn. Kahn won the late rounds and won the fight. The judges who scored it 9 to 3 that was too wide and anyone who scored it for Chris also did not score the fight correctly.
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Post by Ricky_ »

I missed 3 rounds (9, 10, 11).

From what i seen scoring was fairly easy, even in the rounds Khan won he did so on the back foot doing little himself.

r1 - CA clear
r2- AK clear
r3- CA easy
r4- CA dominant
r5- AK clear
r6- AK clear
r7- CA clear
r8- CA clear
r9 na
r10 na
r11 na
r12- CA clear


Even in the orunds Khan clearly won he did so on the back foot, never pressed the action, never hurt nor deterred CA. This isn't amatuer boxing, Algieri consistenly landed the meatiest punches. His right hand couldn't miss, he telegraphed it all night, he just lacked power for the KO or it was goodnight Khan in inside 5. His lead left hook, landed time & time again, hence the grilling from Virgil Hunter between rounds. And his body work was excellent too, ripped Khan with left hook/right hook combos.

From the 9 rounds I seen I can't see how it scores differently from 6-3 Algieri, Khan would have to have won 9, 10 & 11 to get the fight even, yet what did the judges give Chris, 3 rounds!? What a fuckin joke, but I guess.... he was never supposed to win.
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Post by Impractical Poster »

I didn't bother scoring. Algieri was the aggressor and seemed to land the more telling blows. However, Khan landed more shots... It was a close fight. Could have gone either way.
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Post by tiny_acres »

I hate Khan's personality. I think he is a total d-bag.
And even I had Khan winning 116-112.
Khan will lose to any real welterweight contender. The guy is so over rated
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Post by Datsue »

7-4-1 Khan imo.
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Post by ikorolev »

sucracristo wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Judges did a fine job this time. They did a poor job when they gave Algieri a win over Provo.
you can't land 3 hard shots and get outscored 47-1 and expect a victory.
get over it. provo got outworked worse than anyone in recent history in a title fight.
That scoring is a joke. You can't score Algieri's touches as real punches.
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Post by Tanzio »

ikorolev wrote:
sucracristo wrote:
ikorolev wrote:Judges did a fine job this time. They did a poor job when they gave Algieri a win over Provo.
you can't land 3 hard shots and get outscored 47-1 and expect a victory.
get over it. provo got outworked worse than anyone in recent history in a title fight.
That scoring is a joke. You can't score Algieri's touches as real punches.
Your man love for former Soviet Bloc fighters is a much more humorous joke.
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Post by Freedom2013 »

It was a very close fight. I scored it a draw.

I can see 115-113 for Khan, but not 117-111.
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Post by ikorolev »

Tanzio wrote: Your man love for former Soviet Bloc fighters is a much more humorous joke.
I like dozens of non-Soviet fighters more than Provo, but giving that fight to Algieri propelling him to a level where he clearly doesn't belong was just a hometown gift.
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Post by Tanzio »

ikorolev wrote:
Tanzio wrote: Your man love for former Soviet Bloc fighters is a much more humorous joke.
I like dozens of non-Soviet fighters more than Provo, but giving that fight to Algieri propelling him to a level where he clearly doesn't belong was just a hometown gift.
I wanted The Provoglodyte to win that fight. He didn't. He has only himself to blame.

Khan could have lost by decision last night. If he had, I would have disagreed with the decision but it would not have been a travesty of justice, and neither was Algieri's W over The Provoglodyte.
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Post by caldo2025 »

Blodhemn wrote:Algieri didn't dominate, you're sounding as delusional as the people who scored it wide for Khan. It was the perfect example of a draw, but if you had to lean toward either guy, I'd give it to Algieri as he connected to the head and body with more authority with just a bit more regularity, as Khan had more moments of throwing non-connecting fluff. It pretty much says it all when Algieri appeared to be the harder puncher of the two.
I completely agree with this review. No one deserved to get their hands raised in this one. I watched the fight twice to see if maybe I was too pro Algieir and the only thing that I can determine is that the judges must have been scoring those flurries Khan was throwing. From what i could tell watching twice, very little of those punches scored. Maybe the damage on Algieri's face helped Khan's cause but i'm at a loss with the scoring lately. This judges need to know it's ok to score a round as a tie. It happens more often then not but they never call a round a draw.
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Post by SenorPipino »

I despise Khan, pulled for that weak chinned little dog to get KO'd by the feather fisted Algieri. Good to see he was rocked on several occasions. Imagine what even Mayweather could do to that Macau chin.

That being said, I had Khan ahead 116-112. Too many of you guys are again impressed by the aggressiveness shown by Algieri. But the faster hands, the cleaner, sharper punches belonged to the Brit.

The decision was spot on. I'll just have to wait until Mayweather gets a piece of that slimebag and quickly score his first KO in more than 4 years.
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Post by Ricky_ »

caldo2025 wrote:
Blodhemn wrote:Algieri didn't dominate, you're sounding as delusional as the people who scored it wide for Khan. It was the perfect example of a draw, but if you had to lean toward either guy, I'd give it to Algieri as he connected to the head and body with more authority with just a bit more regularity, as Khan had more moments of throwing non-connecting fluff. It pretty much says it all when Algieri appeared to be the harder puncher of the two.
I completely agree with this review. No one deserved to get their hands raised in this one. I watched the fight twice to see if maybe I was too pro Algieir and the only thing that I can determine is that the judges must have been scoring those flurries Khan was throwing. From what i could tell watching twice, very little of those punches scored. Maybe the damage on Algieri's face helped Khan's cause but i'm at a loss with the scoring lately. This judges need to know it's ok to score a round as a tie. It happens more often then not but they never call a round a draw.

Khan did very little, the punch numbers i'm sure were pretty even. So you have Khan on his bike, throwing pitty-patty combos in an attempt to keep Algieri off him, but to no avail. Algieri walked him down, landed beautiful left-hook leads, overhand rights, and ripped the body with hooks all night.

It was a good fight tbh, both guys scored alot of eye catching stuff but Algieri the far more eye catching work, a more effective jab, and was the bigger stronger man continually pushing the action.

Too many fights are being scored like amateur bouts, clear win for Algieri last night.
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Post by ikorolev »

Ricky_ wrote: Too many fights are being scored like amateur bouts, clear win for Algieri last night.
Algieri punched like an amateur. Khan was cautious, but his punches were still better.

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Post by GL14 »

116 112 Khan is probably what would have been my score
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