Carl Froch Vs Gennady Golovkin In Talks For September

[ikorolev]

I have a feeling that Froch will fight DeGale even though Golovkin is still being mentioned:

http://talksport.com/boxing/exclusive-c ... 0601149057?

[PsychoGamerTwo]

Your level of delusion is hitting the ceiling if you think that the below guy was the winner. This is not amateur boxing when you can touch an opponent and score points. Provo's face which is usually a mess after his fights was almost clean.

Pssst . . . Ikorlev . . . That's not what judges score fights on.

Objective judges in professional boxing certainly take quality and effectiveness of punches into consideration, and fighters' faces reflect that quality and effectiveness.

Why did they even score Bradley vs Provodnikov? Just look in Ruslan's face & you know who lost.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=110&v=AgF_1RTxUGM

[ikorolev]

If you think that judges are not influenced by how fighters' faces look, you are a fool.

[ikorolev]

Looks like Hearn is in hiding again:

http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... och--91997?

Golovkin will probably need to face another nobody.

[Tanzio]

If you think that judges are not influenced by how fighters' faces look, you are a fool.

The only person looking foolish on this thread is the one who thinks that boxers get extra credit at the end of fights if their face is less a mess than their opponent.

I repeat; boxing is scored one round at a time.

A judge who takes into account the cosmetic condition of a fighter's face in scoring (beyond the effectiveness of the shots that caused it) is a poor judge.

[ikorolev]

If you think that judges are not influenced by how fighters' faces look, you are a fool.

The only person looking foolish on this thread is the one who thinks that boxers get extra credit at the end of fights if their face is less a mess than their opponent.

I repeat; boxing is scored one round at a time.

A judge who takes into account the cosmetic condition of a fighter's face in scoring (beyond the effectiveness of the shots that caused it) is a poor judge.

... and I am done arguing with the fool who can't distinguish theory from reality.

[Tanzio]

If you think that judges are not influenced by how fighters' faces look, you are a fool.

The only person looking foolish on this thread is the one who thinks that boxers get extra credit at the end of fights if their face is less a mess than their opponent.

I repeat; boxing is scored one round at a time.

A judge who takes into account the cosmetic condition of a fighter's face in scoring (beyond the effectiveness of the shots that caused it) is a poor judge.

... and I am done arguing with the fool who can't distinguish theory from reality.

Runaway and hide if you like, it won't change the FACT that fights are judged one round at a time and the FACT that extra credit is not given at the end of the fight to the boxer with the prettiest face.

In the majority of the cases the fighter whose face is most messed up loses, not because his face is a mess but rather because of the scoring blows that made his face a mess.

In the case of Algieri, the vast majority of the damage that you submit as evidence that The Provoglodyte got robbed was done by one shot in one round that the Russian got his due credit for.

You may resume your completely illogical denial of the facts backed up with evidence that actually proves you wrong, sprinkled with name calling. Unless you are more comfortable curled up in a ball in the corner.

[crusader]

Looks like Hearn is in hiding again:

http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... och--91997?

Golovkin will probably need to face another nobody.

I'm suspecting Heiland, though I think there's an outside chance of it being N'dam if he beats Lemieux. Hopefully the Cotto-Canelo victor faces GGG in their first bout after winning.

[ikorolev]

Looks like Hearn is in hiding again:

http://www.BS.com/golovkins-pr ... och--91997?

Golovkin will probably need to face another nobody.

I'm suspecting Heiland, though I think there's an outside chance of it being N'dam if he beats Lemieux. Hopefully the Cotto-Canelo victor faces GGG in their first bout after winning.

Cotto-Canelo winner will only be ready for GGG next spring. Gennady will probably fight twice before that.

[crusader]

I notice that Heiland is ranked #1 by the WBC with GGG being the mandatory. If Cotto drops the belt it seems like that fight would be sanctioned for the vacant title.

[ikorolev]

I notice that Heiland is ranked #1 by the WBC with GGG being the mandatory. If Cotto drops the belt it seems like that fight would be sanctioned for the vacant title.

Then the fight against Heiland will likely not be next for Gennady, as Cotto will likely wait till the last possible moment before dropping the title or being stripped.

[crusader]

Perhaps they could make the fight with Heiland anyway and just add the WBC title later if Cotto decides to drop it, though I'm not sure if Heiland initially taking the bout w/o the WBC title on the line would result in him losing his ranking.

[Buonaparte]

If you think that judges are not influenced by how fighters' faces look, you are a fool.

In terms of scoring judges aren't affected by the condition of fighters' faces. Casual fans might get swayed by the sight of blood or swelling, but not judges.

[Tarkus]

It was clear already from Hearns recent interview that he doesnt fancy the fight. I am not quite sure why that is, a massive event, he stands to make shitloads of money. Is he afraid of the fact that if GGG tears Froch apart it will somehow damage his brand. Or is he as nice a guy as he is masquerading himself, caring about his fighters/friends health and future happiness.

At least they cant hide behind that "its not a PPV fight in the USA" bullshit anymore. If Froch fights he has to fight Golovkin.

[sendo]

Degale-Froch would make more money, sell out a stadium and UK PPV.

[ikorolev]

Golovkin is not mentioned anymore:

http://www.voice-online.co.uk/article/f ... ion-degale?

I can understand Carl. Why take a bad beating in his last fight when he could take an easier path ?

[crow]

How's Froch's level of excitment now ?

[SNG]

It was clear already from Hearns recent interview that he doesnt fancy the fight. I am not quite sure why that is, a massive event, he stands to make shitloads of money. Is he afraid of the fact that if GGG tears Froch apart it will somehow damage his brand. Or is he as nice a guy as he is masquerading himself, caring about his fighters/friends health and future happiness.

At least they cant hide behind that "its not a PPV fight in the USA" bullshit anymore. If Froch fights he has to fight Golovkin.

[Tarkus]

If Carl Froch fights again, I am 99.9 % sure it will be Gennady Golovkin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=p ... o40Y#t=816

[SNG]

That's a very different statement than saying Froch has to fight Golovkin. There are loads of potential fights for Froch out there.

[Tarkus]

Yes they wont take him out and shoot him if he doesnt.

[ikorolev]

Now it sounds like Carl is done:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/06/hea ... ght-again/?

[SFW]

Yeah that day is inevitable, the body just can't take it or do it anymore. I was hoping he would have retired by now, great champion.

[Autobarn]

Now it sounds like Carl is done:

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/06/hea ... ght-again/?

I can understand your frustration at golovkin's inability to secure a big fight. He's perhaps the best offensive fighter in boxing and he's willing to make the big fights happen.

I don't think froch is in fear of a beating, though he clearly understands how dangerous this fight is. If anything froch relishes a good battle, which this certainly would be. He's been one of the most Willing and fierce in boxing since 2008. It's just that James degale's win over dirrell is fresh, and presents a lucrative alternative. Froch surely wants a final, big fight and is weighing options following the pounding of Chavez Jr by fonfara. I don't believe the talk by Hearn of retirement - this could just be the rhetoric of a promoter whose fighter is still yet to decide.

It does not reflect badly on froch or Hearn if they don't proceed with a golovkin fight. Nor should we presume that froch would take a terrible beating - or even lose to triple G. Carl's resume is a strong one, 10 of his last 11 opponents have been world class -and he usually produces great work when things get really tough, when the arms feel heavy, when the throat and lungs are aching from gasping in thAt oxygen, in the late rounds. This guy knows about imposing himself in hard fights - and the only fighter he avoided was Adonis Stevenson, more out of indifference (and he did take the bigger,if not more dangerous matchup, Kessler 2).

If golovkin were close to a fight with Miguel cotto or Saul Alvarez, I'm sure he might consider different opponents than froch.

[cold187]

golovkin team need to pursue Andy lee next or accept Lara fight after this weekend