Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

poll

Rigondeaux
4
7%
Lomachenko
2
4%
Gonzales
4
7%
Lara
0
No votes
Golovkin
21
38%
Kovalev
6
11%
Stevenson
0
No votes
Ward
12
21%
Thurman
0
No votes
Crawford
7
13%
 
Total votes: 56

Chepppaaa
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Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by Chepppaaa »

floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by bogan whisperer »

Chepppaaa wrote:floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
If Golovkin remained at 160 he is a walkup for P4P #1 next year.
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by Chepppaaa »

bogan whisperer wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
If Golovkin remained at 160 he is a walkup for P4P #1 next year.

the winner of loma-rigo will also play a role. i mean gold medalist, technicly both are superior to ggg. if rigondeaux wins, it is a no brainer, i mean undefeated, wins over prime donaire and lomachenko and on top techicly superior to any boser out there expect floyd, i mean thats simply > ggg. but, golovkin is up there 2-4.
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by caldo2025 »

GGG in a landslide..Kovalev not too distant number 2.
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by danamba7 »

GGG
Rigo Loma winner
Kova
Gonzlez
Crawford
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by ikorolev »

Aren't we still in 2015 ?
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Post by Horse »

Terrible poll.
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Post by jamesmcdonnell »

Chepppaaa wrote:floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
Floyd will still be fighting in 2016 - so it will be him.

If you really believe he is going to retire at 49-0 rather than beating Marciano's record, then you're bonkers.
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by Crease »

Chepppaaa wrote:the winner of loma-rigo will also play a role.
:??
What?
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by Crease »

Why no Wladimir Klitschsko option?
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by tiny_acres »

I am curious as to why Lara is an option?
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Post by davie »

bogan whisperer wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
If Golovkin remained at 160 he is a walkup for P4P #1 next year.
If GGG continues at 160lbs then by next year he'll still have fought no-one worthy of a p4p no1 ranking.

I think GGG has the tools to be p4p no1 but until he at very least gets the top guys in his division to fight him, let alone moving weights to fight the best, he'll not be given credit (and rightly so) that takes you to no1 ranking.

Lets not forget p4p are largely down to opinions and the people that make these decisions need convincing.
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Post by davie »

tiny_acres wrote:I am curious as to why Lara is an option?
The same reason Stevenson and Thurman are in there presumably.

Not one of those 3 names are the best in their division let alone p4p
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Post by tiny_acres »

davie wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:I am curious as to why Lara is an option?
The same reason Stevenson and Thurman are in there presumably.

Not one of those 3 names are the best in their division let alone p4p
You are 100% right. I have just been amazed at all the love Lara is getting and he does not
have a single defining win.
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Post by bogan whisperer »

davie wrote:
bogan whisperer wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
If Golovkin remained at 160 he is a walkup for P4P #1 next year.
If GGG continues at 160lbs then by next year he'll still have fought no-one worthy of a p4p no1 ranking.

I think GGG has the tools to be p4p no1 but until he at very least gets the top guys in his division to fight him, let alone moving weights to fight the best, he'll not be given credit (and rightly so) that takes you to no1 ranking.

Lets not forget p4p are largely down to opinions and the people that make these decisions need convincing.
The only thing in the way of GGG moving up to P4P #1 is the reluctance of prospective opponents fighting him.
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Post by Badhusker »

I think if Rigo dominates Lomo, like I predict, he should be no longer ignored by so many as a top pfp boxer.
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Post by Chepppaaa »

tiny_acres wrote:
davie wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:I am curious as to why Lara is an option?
The same reason Stevenson and Thurman are in there presumably.

Not one of those 3 names are the best in their division let alone p4p
You are 100% right. I have just been amazed at all the love Lara is getting and he does not
have a single defining win.

paul williams and canelo alvarez

and if you rewatch both fights and still think he lost both than u know 0 about boxing
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Post by Chepppaaa »

13 people voted for ggg as the future #1 boxer in the world :doh:

i cant believe this, i am realy far away from a boxing forum with guys who know boxing.

how can you rate somebody as #1 when he so technicly limited and limited in terms of speed and athletic ability?

i mean ggg is tough and strong and yes, he is by far the best middleweight in the world, but he can never be any better than a p4p top 2-4.

as long as there are technicly, fast and athleticly superior guys like rigondeaux or lara in town ggg is 2 >
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by greg »

...I don't expect any major changes in 2016...
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Post by Chepppaaa »

greg wrote:...I don't expect any major changes in 2016...

so in 2016 or end of 2016 floyd will still be boxing and be #1 after his close win over pac and a ud win over berto
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Re: Who is the #1 p4p Boxer in 2016?

Post by greg »

Chepppaaa wrote:
greg wrote:...I don't expect any major changes in 2016...

so in 2016 or end of 2016 floyd will still be boxing and be #1 after his close win over pac and a ud win over berto
...I don't know, I just guess if he keeps fighting and wins which is something I would expect, he'll retain his status..
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Post by HyacinthusTurnipseed »

Treating this idea as it was intended, in a post-Floyd world there will likely be no consensus for a while on who is #1 (as this thread suggests), and it would depend on exactly what fights get made in the near future as who pulls out in front. What if a Bradley-Crawford suddenly gets made and Terence stops him inside 7? Gonzalez-Inoue? Golovkin-Alvarez? Golovkin-Ward? Kovalev-Stevenson? Thurman-Brook? What if Rigondeaux's career continues to stall? Most of us who do p4p lists try to incorporate recent resume in with who we happen to think would win "if everyone was the same weight", so questions like the above play a massive role in determining who we'll go for.

As it stands now, if Floyd retired tomorrow (why would he? But still if he did) my own top 5 would probably be Rigo, Gonz, Kov, GGG and Crawford, but I don't see any problem with shuffling around the first four of those names into some different order as it stands now.

Golovkin is as technically gifted as anyone, he is just more aggressive. His handspeed may not be khanesque but he is fast enough. His opponents are always desperate to stop him punching them in the face and body and yet he lands on all of them cleanly and regularly thanks to his awesome Ring IQ, accuracy, balance, knowledge of angles and punch variety. He is more-or-less as good as Rigo at what he does.
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Post by stevedoc »

If Floyd retires I'll pick Andre ward ,if he starts fighting regularly again ,unlike GGG or kovalev he doesn't need a big divining fight as he has already cleared out his weight class plus he's got some big fights at light heavyweight if he wants them vs kovalev and Stevenson which is think he'd win plus I think he'd beat GGG as well....for me rigo has lots of talent but he isn't having big fights
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Post by Chepppaaa »

stevedoc wrote:If Floyd retires I'll pick Andre ward ,if he starts fighting regularly again ,unlike GGG or kovalev he doesn't need a big divining fight as he has already cleared out his weight class plus he's got some big fights at light heavyweight if he wants them vs kovalev and Stevenson which is think he'd win plus I think he'd beat GGG as well....for me rigo has lots of talent but he isn't having big fights

yes. if ward realy would be as succesful at lh as he was at sm, than he would be a clear cut #1
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Post by Badhusker »

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:floyd is on his way out with the ridicule berto fight, manny is out too.

so who is left.....
Floyd will still be fighting in 2016 - so it will be him.

If you really believe he is going to retire at 49-0 rather than beating Marciano's record, then you're bonkers.

Hasn't Marciano's record already broken? Ricardo Lopez 51-0-1? Maybe you are talking about unblemished record, or maybe its just that the really small guys don't count.
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