Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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Re: Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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No worse than when Pac fought Algieri.[/quote]
Given the circumstances, it's quite a bit worse. Berto stands no chance at all and recently got smoked by Karass and Guerrero. At least Chris was undefeated when Manny faced him. This is possibly Floyd's last bout. And he claims he is the best ever. Piss poor move. It's hard to believe even his loyalest supporters supporting this.[/quote]

Quite a bit worse? Imagine the backlash Floyd would have got if he fought Rios and Algieri. Neither are even true 147 pounders. Algieri was unbeaten, yes, but only had 20 fights total in his lifetime.

Berto is a career welter, champion for 2 years, the number 1 WBA contender (I think most of the rankings are BS), but lost to Guerrero and Karass. You did however fail to mention his re-dedication and 2 impressive wins after the losses. His latest was a KO of Joseito Lopez, which in my mind is as good as Rios or Algieri. Berto took him out about the same way Canelo and Maidana did. None of the 3 are elite competition. No, Berto is not elite either, but like I said in another post, this fight is not about the biggest challenges or legacies. Its about giving the fans an entertaining fight for free. If Floyd wanted the biggest PPV draw, he wouldn't be fighting Berto, you can bank on that. Floyd says he is the best ever, yes, but we all know this may be his last fight and he is a lot closer to 40 than 35. Maybe Berto KO's Floyd, then you can rejoice.[/quote]
An entertaining fight for free, watching floyd tag Berto at will, is that your idea of an entertaining fight, far from mine
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This is much worst than Algeiri vs Pac. At least Algeiri held a version of the world title at a lighter weight and was undefeated at the time.

Berto hasn't been a champion for sometime and has been well exposed in the past.
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stujones wrote:This is much worst than Algeiri vs Pac. At least Algeiri held a version of the world title at a lighter weight and was undefeated at the time.

Berto hasn't been a champion for sometime and has been well exposed in the past.
I'd pick Berto to beat Algieri if they fought.
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Re: Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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Ha, it seems like Floyd always wanted to fornicate Berto up ... :lol:

By my standards, garbage fight. However, all of you who claim that guys like Froch and JMM earned an easy fight, should have no problem with Floyd having one .. but something tells me the enormous hypocrisy you judge fighters by won't allow such rational thought.

Whatever, I've watched the Knicks play, I've watched the Kardashians (slightly forced), so it's not unreasonable for me to watch Floyd/Berto FOR FREE.
Some of you go on like you only watch Masterpiece Theater.
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tiny_acres wrote:
Badhusker wrote:
Cedric wrote:If Mayweather was serious about fighting Mayfield or Berto, than this makes sense. But I don't believe he was.
It looks like it will be Berto, unless they hit a snag in negotiations. Its a great thing for the fans. Lots of folks can't afford PPV. Berto isn't a popular choice, but I personally like it better than the Khan option. Khan crying like a baby when it is officially announced will be PPV worthy in itself. :OhYes:
I would buy the ppv of Khan crying over not getting the fight.
Man I might even spring for a dvd copy so I can play it over and over :OhYes:
I also relish the fact that Khan ain't getting this fight. He's like a needy girlfriend who got rejected because of his high maintenance.
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This is all a set up to get everyone to buy his swansong fight where he goes for Marciano's record in the fight after.
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This is like when ODLH fought Forbes on HBO after fighting like a dozen straight PPV bouts. Kinda cool that he'd be fighting off PPV, but also a pretty worthless fight.
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Could this just be a test run for Haymon?
Could he be seeing if there is more money available than through PPV?

Supposedly Floyd will be getting a percentage of TV advertisement revenue.Could this just
be a test run to see how many viewers will watch and what the advertisers are willing to pay?

Opinions please?
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Re: Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Ha, it seems like Floyd always wanted to eff Berto up ... :lol:

By my standards, garbage fight. However, all of you who claim that guys like Froch and JMM earned an easy fight, should have no problem with Floyd having one .. but something tells me the enormous hypocrisy you judge fighters by won't allow such rational thought.

Whatever, I've watched the Knicks play, I've watched the Kardashians (slightly forced), so it's not unreasonable for me to watch Floyd/Berto FOR FREE.
Some of you go on like you only watch Masterpiece Theater.
The circumstances are different for Floyd. He has separated himself from the rest of the pack by proclaiming he is the best ever. Add that this is most likely his last fight. He can take on whoever he wants. But, after the lackluster performance he and Pac put on, it would be nice to see somewhat of a challenging fight for the self proclaimed GOATs last hurrah...

Or, am I being overly critical?
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Re: Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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Did floyd really state that he was the best ever/ greatest of all times ?
Its good he is at the end his carreer. His brain must have taken some real damage... Rofl.
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Butterbean wrote:Did floyd really state that he was the best ever/ greatest of all times ?
Its good he is at the end his carreer. His brain must have taken some real damage... Rofl.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/box ... -best-ever
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Butterbean wrote:Did floyd really state that he was the best ever/ greatest of all times ?
Its good he is at the end his carreer. His brain must have taken some real damage... Rofl.
Does he actually believe it - doubtful.
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Re: Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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Impractical Poster wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Did floyd really state that he was the best ever/ greatest of all times ?
Its good he is at the end his carreer. His brain must have taken some real damage... Rofl.

http://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/box ... -best-ever
Thx.

Dude just living in a parallel world.
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I just read somewhere that Berto is a 80-1 underdog.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
Butterbean wrote:Did floyd really state that he was the best ever/ greatest of all times ?
Its good he is at the end his carreer. His brain must have taken some real damage... Rofl.
Does he actually believe it - doubtful.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did, especially given how I've heard him put down other fighters simply because they have losses.
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MachoTime wrote:I just read somewhere that Berto is a 80-1 underdog.
That's giving Berto too much credit.
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By the way, either Floyd's opponent already knows who he is or he is not given sufficient time for preparation, as there is exactly 8 weeks left.
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You would have to bet 8 grand on Mayweather to win 100 dollars. In a fight like this the over and under should be about 5 rounds. That would be funny if the over under in rounds is...

11.5 like usual.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
stujones wrote:This is much worst than Algeiri vs Pac. At least Algeiri held a version of the world title at a lighter weight and was undefeated at the time.

Berto hasn't been a champion for sometime and has been well exposed in the past.
I'd pick Berto to beat Algieri if they fought.
Nah, Berto gets outboxed by the likes of Josesito Lopez these days. Algeiri is better than him, with a better chin as he has shown.

Algeiri won a few rounds vs Khan, Berto would get anhilated by Khan (but could always land a hayemaker).

Algieri beat (officially anyway, but either way it was close) Provolikov.... Berto hasn't had as good a win since..... Collazo 2009.

Just a more hyped name that's all.
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BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Ha, it seems like Floyd always wanted to eff Berto up ... :lol:

By my standards, garbage fight. However, all of you who claim that guys like Froch and JMM earned an easy fight, should have no problem with Floyd having one .. but something tells me the enormous hypocrisy you judge fighters by won't allow such rational thought.

Whatever, I've watched the Knicks play, I've watched the Kardashians (slightly forced), so it's not unreasonable for me to watch Floyd/Berto FOR FREE.
Some of you go on like you only watch Masterpiece Theater.
Be honest now, BI, no one forced you to watch the Kardashians :OhYes:
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punchoutsb wrote:While we're waiting on him/you/whatever to provide the "fistful of guys" Wlad's avoided, you can provide a list of posts of mine that would equate to me hating Floyd, or ANY similarities to me and bnov. But just like him/you/whatever you won't be able to either because it doesn't exist.

Have a good one :TU:

For the last time Mr. Bnovelist, me and Kool are two different people. I hope your mental retardation ends with this post because honestly I have no desire to discuss anything other than boxing with you.
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KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:While we're waiting on him/you/whatever to provide the "fistful of guys" Wlad's avoided, you can provide a list of posts of mine that would equate to me hating Floyd, or ANY similarities to me and bnov. But just like him/you/whatever you won't be able to either because it doesn't exist.

Have a good one :TU:

For the last time Mr. Bnovelist, me and Kool are two different people. I hope your mental retardation ends with this post because honestly I have no desire to discuss anything other than boxing with you.
It's all good :TU:

You never have any sort of proof for anything else, so why would you here?
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punchoutsb wrote:It's all good :TU: You never have any sort of proof for anything else, so why would you here?
What did I need to provide proof to you of?? You're the one claiming that Kool and I are the same individuals when we're not, so shouldn't you be the one to provide proof of your retarded claim??

I told you and another clown here that all you have to do is PM a Moderator and ask them for whatever accounts I have and they will tell you, I have nothing to hide.
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KBB wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:It's all good :TU: You never have any sort of proof for anything else, so why would you here?
What did I need to provide proof to you of?? You're the one claiming that Kool and I are the same individuals when we're not, so shouldn't you be the one to provide proof of your retarded claim??

I told you and another clown here that all you have to do is PM a Moderator and ask them for whatever accounts I have and they will tell you, I have nothing to hide.
You said I hate Floyd Mayweather, and I asked for proof.

You and kool do share the similarity of never answering a question or making outrageous claims and then not backing them up. If you're not the same person, you both suffer from similar maladies.
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Re: Mayweather to fight Berto Tues. Sep.15 live on CBS

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koolkc107 wrote:Of course Berto beats Algieri and Rios. He just KTFO another guy who would ALSO beat both Rios and Algieri in Lopez.

I don't thing Algieri stays vertical once Berto tags him right. And Andre is skilled enough to box circles around Rios with more than enough power to make Brandon respect him.

Easy wins both for Andre, even at his age.
Berto doesn't box, he was getting outboxed by shot Lopez before he finally caught up to him and Lopez is far from a boxer. Berto is a fast-handed brawler with crappy defense, low workrate, no jab, and while he can hurt you if he catches you with something you don't see, his power is not especially impressive otherwise. He has heart but has simply not improved his boxing craft over his career. Rios would just walk through his stuff and bang on him all night and Algieri would outbox Berto easily. This is not to say that either of them are that good. It's that they are good enough to beat Berto. Berto's last fight against a semi-credible opponent he got beat up and stopped by journeyman Soto-Karass. Before that, beat up by Guerrero(who has since been exposed as a top 20 Welterweight at best) and Ortiz(not much needs to be said here). The shining achievement of Berto's career is a very dubious win over Luis Collazo. He is simply not very good and never has been.
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