Predict How Klitschko-Fury Will Pan Out.

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mickey1975 wrote:Fury knocks him out in the first with a southpaw left, Vitali goes mad, so Big Shane sticks it on him on the sly, Gypsy John recognises someone who upset him 20 years ago and starts cutting up rough.
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Fury eats a left hook in the 3rd and get's KO'd.
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Fury tries to cover up and walk in to rough him up a bit. Klitscho jabs through the guard on the way in then wrestles till the referee separates them. About 8 rounds of that then Klitscho lands a straight right and it's a one-punch KO.
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I want to try and give Fury a decent chance but even a punchers chance is not going to happen. not sure how the fight will go but im expecting something 'odd' to happen. It wont go 12 thats for sure. There will be no Fury victory, but I think it will be a odd finish.
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I think the match up of styles and skills and weaknesses makes this less of a formality than people seem to think.

WK is very good at what he does, but what he does is stick to very basic (but very high) technique and rely on his height and reach. TF is far more natural a boxer, he's looser, throws a wider range of punches and is a lot quicker than people think. However, more relevant is that he is significantly taller than WK, with a reach advantage the and skills to use it. WK can't just stand off and pick away the way he likes to. As others have said he also can't lean all over TF every time they get close. So that's two of his big weapons left open to question in this fight.

Fury is far more natural when it comes to wanting a tear up as well. Klitschko is a cautious man who knows he doesn't need to go wild but against a man much bigger than him he may have to fight more than he's used to. At that stage stamina becomes a question. Fury has had fitness questions, Klitschko is not a young man, he doesn't fight often and he's not used to being made to fight.

People will point to Fury being knocked down by smaller men but there is a significant answer to that everyone seems to ignore. He has been knocked down twice in exactly the same circumstances. He got lazy, over confident, walked onto an overarm right from a much much smaller man. He got sat down, got straight back up and got on with it. He also, it is worth remembering, got up and won. The significance I think is the issue he has a weakness of walking onto big rights from short heavyweight. Haye would have been all wrong for him from that perspective. But Klitschko isn't going to be bowling punches from a blind spot, he's going be throwing straight rights from where Fury can see and respect them.

I don't know how this goes, Fury hits harder than people think but his weapon is variety, very unexpected speed and surprising accuracy. He's also strong, getting smarter, developing really good skills and coming into his prime. He's the best WK will have fought for some time but then the biggest question is does that bring out the best in the champion or the end to his reign?
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GPTM1403 wrote:I think the match up of styles and skills and weaknesses makes this less of a formality than people seem to think.

WK is very good at what he does, but what he does is stick to very basic (but very high) technique and rely on his height and reach. TF is far more natural a boxer, he's looser, throws a wider range of punches and is a lot quicker than people think. However, more relevant is that he is significantly taller than WK, with a reach advantage the and skills to use it. WK can't just stand off and pick away the way he likes to. As others have said he also can't lean all over TF every time they get close. So that's two of his big weapons left open to question in this fight.

Fury is far more natural when it comes to wanting a tear up as well. Klitschko is a cautious man who knows he doesn't need to go wild but against a man much bigger than him he may have to fight more than he's used to. At that stage stamina becomes a question. Fury has had fitness questions, Klitschko is not a young man, he doesn't fight often and he's not used to being made to fight.

People will point to Fury being knocked down by smaller men but there is a significant answer to that everyone seems to ignore. He has been knocked down twice in exactly the same circumstances. He got lazy, over confident, walked onto an overarm right from a much much smaller man. He got sat down, got straight back up and got on with it. He also, it is worth remembering, got up and won. The significance I think is the issue he has a weakness of walking onto big rights from short heavyweight. Haye would have been all wrong for him from that perspective. But Klitschko isn't going to be bowling punches from a blind spot, he's going be throwing straight rights from where Fury can see and respect them.

I don't know how this goes, Fury hits harder than people think but his weapon is variety, very unexpected speed and surprising accuracy. He's also strong, getting smarter, developing really good skills and coming into his prime. He's the best WK will have fought for some time but then the biggest question is does that bring out the best in the champion or the end to his reign?
Fury a more natural boxer than Wlad? Jesus, now I've heard everything on this forum.
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ALI wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:I think fury could win, on the basis of him performing better than he's ever done, sticking to a sensible game plan, while it becomes evident on the night that wlad has declined due to age. The decline being noticed when fury starts to land on him from time to time, and as the fight goes on he gets into the fight more and stops wlad late on.
I'll give odds of 100/1 on this if anyone's interested.

You offering odds of 100/1 on a fury victory?
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
Fury a more natural boxer than Wlad? Jesus, now I've heard everything on this forum.
Meant what he does looks more natural and less "robotic" for want of a better phrase. Doesn't mean what he does it better he just has and is prepared to use wider range.
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Fury to get sparked, then wake up and sing a song (whilst still lying on the canvas), and that song to go on to become the best selling single of all time in Germany.

There is more chance of that happening than any scenario in which Fury wins.
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GPTM1403 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
Fury a more natural boxer than Wlad? Jesus, now I've heard everything on this forum.
Meant what he does looks more natural and less "robotic" for want of a better phrase. Doesn't mean what he does it better he just has and is prepared to use wider range.
Anyone who has to be shown how to throw a jab correctly by the referee doesn't deserve to be called a natural boxer imo.
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johnswan1 wrote:Fury to get sparked, then wake up and sing a song (whilst still lying on the canvas), and that song to go on to become the best selling single of all time in Germany.

There is more chance of that happening than any scenario in which Fury wins.
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johnswan1 wrote:Fury to get sparked, then wake up and sing a song (whilst still lying on the canvas), and that song to go on to become the best selling single of all time in Germany.

There is more chance of that happening than any scenario in which Fury wins.
That made me chuckle out loud.
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Actually, thinking about it - he could be the new Hoff!
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I dont bet all that often on boxing matches, but every now and again along comes a fight where odds are favourable and i am extremely confident of the outcome. Wlad vs Fury fits that bill, i cannot envisage any scenario in which Fury wins, only a lottery punch would do it IMO and i just dont see that happening. If i was loaded i'd stick a huge wad on Wlad to win at 1/4 on, but as i'm not loaded i need a better return for my measly stake, therefor i'll be sticking something on Wlad to win by KO at 5/4 and Wlad to win between rounds 4-6 at 11/2.
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ALI wrote:I dont bet all that often on boxing matches, but every now and again along comes a fight where odds are favourable and i am extremely confident of the outcome. Wlad vs Fury fits that bill, i cannot envisage any scenario in which Fury wins, only a lottery punch would do it IMO and i just dont see that happening. If i was loaded i'd stick a huge wad on Wlad to win at 1/4 on, but as i'm not loaded i need a better return for my measly stake, therefor i'll be sticking something on Wlad to win by KO at 5/4 and Wlad to win between rounds 4-6 at 11/2.
Yeah, if you were minted, and could afford to stick 10K on the fight, you'd be laughing. Mind you, Wlad could get cut or throw his shoulder out, you never know in boxing.

I'd say 4-1 on is actually fairly generous, I certainly don't give Fury a 1 in 4 chance of winning, that's for certain.

I've got a big of money coming later in the year, might have to have a punt.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ALI wrote:I dont bet all that often on boxing matches, but every now and again along comes a fight where odds are favourable and i am extremely confident of the outcome. Wlad vs Fury fits that bill, i cannot envisage any scenario in which Fury wins, only a lottery punch would do it IMO and i just dont see that happening. If i was loaded i'd stick a huge wad on Wlad to win at 1/4 on, but as i'm not loaded i need a better return for my measly stake, therefor i'll be sticking something on Wlad to win by KO at 5/4 and Wlad to win between rounds 4-6 at 11/2.
Yeah, if you were minted, and could afford to stick 10K on the fight, you'd be laughing. Mind you, Wlad could get cut or throw his shoulder out, you never know in boxing.

I'd say 4-1 on is actually fairly generous, I certainly don't give Fury a 1 in 4 chance of winning, that's for certain.

I've got a big of money coming later in the year, might have to have a punt.
Best odds on a Fury win are 7/2 with a lot of bookies going 3/1. I think you would need to be a relative or drunk to bet Fury at those odds. I dont know what the bookies are thinking but this will be very one sided IMO.
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ALI wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:
ALI wrote:I dont bet all that often on boxing matches, but every now and again along comes a fight where odds are favourable and i am extremely confident of the outcome. Wlad vs Fury fits that bill, i cannot envisage any scenario in which Fury wins, only a lottery punch would do it IMO and i just dont see that happening. If i was loaded i'd stick a huge wad on Wlad to win at 1/4 on, but as i'm not loaded i need a better return for my measly stake, therefor i'll be sticking something on Wlad to win by KO at 5/4 and Wlad to win between rounds 4-6 at 11/2.
Yeah, if you were minted, and could afford to stick 10K on the fight, you'd be laughing. Mind you, Wlad could get cut or throw his shoulder out, you never know in boxing.

I'd say 4-1 on is actually fairly generous, I certainly don't give Fury a 1 in 4 chance of winning, that's for certain.

I've got a big of money coming later in the year, might have to have a punt.
Best odds on a Fury win are 7/2 with a lot of bookies going 3/1. I think you would need to be a relative or drunk to bet Fury at those odds. I dont know what the bookies are thinking but this will be very one sided IMO.
Maybe a lot of money has come in on fury - causing them to shorten the odds.

Christ, I'd want to be getting 10-1 or more to even consider having a punt on Fury!
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jamesmcdonnell wrote:Maybe a lot of money has come in on fury - causing them to shorten the odds.

Christ, I'd want to be getting 10-1 or more to even consider having a punt on Fury!
They say he has a big family and i'd bet they like a bevvy, i cant envisage any other scenario in which anyone in their right minds would bet Fury at those odds. I would not back him at 20/1.
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There are a lot of travellers with a lot of money and they love a punt, I guess that's why the odds are short on fury. Absolute madness to bet at 3-1.
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Fury will get dropped hard and get up, wobble bbadly and the ref will stop the bout, Fury will protest, Wlad will win, he is too strong, too powerful and too experienced, Wlad will target the body more than usual and it'll be over by the 6th round.
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BOYOVERTHEHILL wrote:
ALI wrote:
JimJim2009 wrote:I think fury could win, on the basis of him performing better than he's ever done, sticking to a sensible game plan, while it becomes evident on the night that wlad has declined due to age. The decline being noticed when fury starts to land on him from time to time, and as the fight goes on he gets into the fight more and stops wlad late on.
I'll give odds of 100/1 on this if anyone's interested.

You offering odds of 100/1 on a fury victory?
Might as well be 1,000,000/1 on a late stoppage.
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palooka wrote:Fury will get dropped hard and get up, wobble bbadly and the ref will stop the bout, Fury will protest, Wlad will win, he is too strong, too powerful and too experienced, Wlad will target the body more than usual and it'll be over by the 6th round.
Serious question - Can you recall Wlad throwing a body shot? He must have done it before but can you name an instance?
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I see Fury trying to make this a 'boring', frustrating fight by staying on his toes and moving while flicking out a jab even longer than Wlads. I can easily see him picking up the first 3 rounds just doing that. Then it will be up to Wlad to rush him using his greater athleticism and time him with a lead left hook. That's not in his nature but that's what makes me think that this will be an entertaining match. At some point Wlad will have to turn it into Lewis v Grant and then there will be fireworks. There is a chance that Tyson lands first but that's less likely than Wlad landing something much more damaging.

I'm looking forward to it.
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mickey1975 wrote:Fury knocks him out in the first with a southpaw left, Vitali goes mad, so Big Shane sticks it on him on the sly, Gypsy John recognises someone who upset him 20 years ago and starts cutting up rough.
:yay: Now that would be PPV worthy
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Fury beats him and his gay lover Bellew.
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