Trivia

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 09:47

Here is a little trivia for you.
Name the top 5 european nations that had the most world champions (WBA, WBC & IBF only + "the old days") in order.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:28

you must have far to much time on your hands,

my 5 are UK, Italy, France, Ireland, Germany

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:29

topper123 wrote:you must have far to much time on your hands,

my 5 are UK, Italy, France, Ireland, Germany

close-ish. I made it with England - Scotland- Wales.

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:31

I reckon UK, Germany, France, Italy, Ireland (North & South combined)

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:37

The UK are leading if you combine England, Scotland and Wales, but Im not looking for that.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:39

Freiheit

That is a world class question. I have just been on a conference call for 30 minutes but spent most of the time puzzling on this:

1. UK (by a mile), if you count the WBO there are about 50 odd British world champions, take out the WBO there must still be at least 35

2. France

3. Italy

I reckon both of these are very close, probably about 15 champs each

4. Germany - not many pre-war, but quite a few in the last 15 years.

5. Ireland- probably about half a dozen

If I had to divide out the UK, the England would be top, France, ITaly and Germany still in their places, Scotland might overtake Ireland

jomothepure · Post by **jomothepure** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:40

Germany, England, Italy, France, Wales???

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:41

A little help. The top 3 are far ahead of number 4 & 5 (and down). One of the top 3 is a british country.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:44

1. is defintiely England

2 and 3 are definitely Italy and France

4. Is definitely Germany

5. IS riether Ireland or Scotland, on reflection, I think Ireland as a couple of the Jocks I was thinking of were only WBO

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:44

Loynesy wrote:If I had to divide out the UK, the England would be top, France, ITaly and Germany still in their places, Scotland might overtake Ireland

You got the top 3 correct.
1: England - 34 world champs
2: France - 28 world champs
3: Italy - 23 world champs

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:47

4 germany , 5 spain

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:48

Freiheit - can you not post these during working hours

Germany must have at least 8 champs, I can't think of any other country that gets close to this.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:49

Since most of you claim Germany is in top 5 (and they are not) I challenge you to name the german world champs (I might have forgotten some

)

Spain is 6th.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 11:04

German champs (and I may have missed some cos this is off top of the head)

Max Schmeling (obviously)
Henry Maske
Sven Ottke
Marcus Beyer
Dariusz Michaelczeski
Graciano Rocchigiani (I know he sounds German but he was definiterly German)
Dagge (can't remeber his first name, was a superwelter)

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 11:06

Loynesy wrote:German champs (and I may have missed some cos this is off top of the head)

Max Schmeling (obviously)
Henry Maske
Sven Ottke
Marcus Beyer
Dariusz Michaelczeski
Graciano Rocchigiani (I know he sounds German but he was definiterly German)
Dagge (can't remeber his first name, was a superwelter)

Almost correct. Michalczewski is polish, the other 6 are correct, and they are the only german ever to be world champs. Germany is 7th in Europe.
We still have to find 4 & 5 allthough you have been close. Both countries claims to speak english

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 20 Jan 2006, 11:12

4, ireland, 5 scotland

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 11:14

topper123 wrote:4, ireland, 5 scotland

Correct. They are tied for 5th place with 8 champions each.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 13:14

Really?

Just trying to work out who.

Ireland

1. Steve Collins
2. Barry McGuigan
3. Dave "Boy" MAuley
4. Wayne McCulloch
5. Jonny Caldwell
5. Rinty Monaghan
6. Mike Mctigue (spelling?)

And thats it. Are you counting some dodgy Irish-Americans from way back such as Dave Sullivan?

I'll have a think about Scotland in a minute.

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 13:26

OK Freiheit, Scotland, I've got

1. JOhnny Hill (very sad story)
2. Benny Lynch (even sadder stroy)
3. Jim Watt (nice guy)
4. Ken Buchanan (another great guy)
5. Walter MacGowan
6, Dick MAcTaggert
7. Jackie Patterson

who have I forgotten? Obviously Harrison and Weir have won WBO belts.

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 13:53

Loynesy wrote:OK Freiheit, Scotland, I've got

1. JOhnny Hill (very sad story)
2. Benny Lynch (even sadder stroy)
3. Jim Watt (nice guy)
4. Ken Buchanan (another great guy)
5. Walter MacGowan
6, Dick MAcTaggert
7. Jackie Patterson

who have I forgotten? Obviously Harrison and Weir have won WBO belts.

I dont have Dick MacTaggert, can you give me a link to his record?
The other 2:
Tancy Lee
Murray Sutherland

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 13:58

Loynesy wrote:Really?

Just trying to work out who.

Ireland

1. Steve Collins
2. Barry McGuigan
3. Dave "Boy" MAuley
4. Wayne McCulloch
5. Jonny Caldwell
5. Rinty Monaghan
6. Mike Mctigue (spelling?)

And thats it. Are you counting some dodgy Irish-Americans from way back such as Dave Sullivan?

I'll have a think about Scotland in a minute.

Steve Collins = WBO champ only

The missing 2 (both fourght in the US but was born in Ireland):
George Gardiner
Jack McAuliffe

Loynesy · Post by **Loynesy** » 20 Jan 2006, 14:04

Freiheit wrote:
Loynesy wrote:OK Freiheit, Scotland, I've got

1. JOhnny Hill (very sad story)
2. Benny Lynch (even sadder stroy)
3. Jim Watt (nice guy)
4. Ken Buchanan (another great guy)
5. Walter MacGowan
6, Dick MAcTaggert
7. Jackie Patterson

who have I forgotten? Obviously Harrison and Weir have won WBO belts.
I dont have Dick MacTaggert, can you give me a link to his record?
The other 2:
Tancy Lee
Murray Sutherland

McTaggert (rather embarassingly for me), never turned pro, he was an Olympic champion though

At least it shows I tried to guess them from my head and didn't look them up!

Great question mate.

And the Danish world Champs are?

Freiheit · Post by **Freiheit** » 20 Jan 2006, 14:05

Mikkel Kessler
Johnny Bredahl
Battling Nelson
Waldemar Holberg

lamphey · Post by **lamphey** » 20 Jan 2006, 15:37

Another Irish born World Champ was Jimmy McLarnin ........ who of course fought under the Canadian flag.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 20 Jan 2006, 18:47

Murray Sutherland = the most forgotton British world champion in history.