Payano v Warren
Payano v Warren
I must admit I have never seen any of them fight, so would like some opinions on who will win and why.
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handsofstone
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Re: Payano v Warren
Ive only see n Payano once but seen Warren a few times,there's no doubt he's got skills but i dont know if he'll make it in the pros,TBH i cant remember much of his fights,its been a while since ive seen him
Hopefully its a good fight
Hopefully its a good fight
Re: Payano v Warren
Interesting fight.
Warren was a standout amateur and is extremely fast, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of pop and has gone under the radar a bit as a pro. Payano was an Olympian himself and seems like a solid but unspectacular type and I could see him being outsped or him getting the better of Warren with pressure.
Warren was a standout amateur and is extremely fast, but he doesn't seem to have a lot of pop and has gone under the radar a bit as a pro. Payano was an Olympian himself and seems like a solid but unspectacular type and I could see him being outsped or him getting the better of Warren with pressure.
Re: Payano v Warren
Warren only has the effective straight left from distance, otherwise he is mainly blazzing fast on the inside where he is slippery in traffic.
Payano basically always throws the same combo with his a pretty round motioned right hook... has some reach on it... followed by the straight left he gradually pushes more and more as the fight progresses. he kind grind with that combo too if it`s effective...meaning he`ll throw right/left/right/left... as long as it lands. The particularity about him is he seems to alway sthrow it from the same position with his opponent. he likes to fire it when his opponent is at 1 or 2 o`clock from him.
IMO the key for Warren would be resisting imposing his speed on the inside where he wi;ll be more suceptible of getting hammered. He should at least resist it for the first half because in the 2nd half, he`ll be too slippery for Payano`s pushed and slowed down left. But he`ll have to be careful with Payano`s hip right hook.
Warren has to play it from distance using the jab, the straight left to the head and body and more importantly use his much superior footwork to create angles and neutralise Payano`s confort spot.
I think Warren can win but he has to have good prep. & execution and more importantly not overcommit on the inside. Payano beat Moreno but it was because of the cut... could he have won the rounds in the second half by maintaining the owrk rate he started with?
We`ll see how he does vs southpaw warren... doubt he can fight at a high enough pace for 12 because warren imo will make him miss a lot.
Payano basically always throws the same combo with his a pretty round motioned right hook... has some reach on it... followed by the straight left he gradually pushes more and more as the fight progresses. he kind grind with that combo too if it`s effective...meaning he`ll throw right/left/right/left... as long as it lands. The particularity about him is he seems to alway sthrow it from the same position with his opponent. he likes to fire it when his opponent is at 1 or 2 o`clock from him.
IMO the key for Warren would be resisting imposing his speed on the inside where he wi;ll be more suceptible of getting hammered. He should at least resist it for the first half because in the 2nd half, he`ll be too slippery for Payano`s pushed and slowed down left. But he`ll have to be careful with Payano`s hip right hook.
Warren has to play it from distance using the jab, the straight left to the head and body and more importantly use his much superior footwork to create angles and neutralise Payano`s confort spot.
I think Warren can win but he has to have good prep. & execution and more importantly not overcommit on the inside. Payano beat Moreno but it was because of the cut... could he have won the rounds in the second half by maintaining the owrk rate he started with?
We`ll see how he does vs southpaw warren... doubt he can fight at a high enough pace for 12 because warren imo will make him miss a lot.
Re: Payano v Warren
I am in the dark with these guys and only depending upon paper records. I felt like Rashee had more KO's and that's an important part of the match to me. Let's hope it is a good fight. but make it quick. I need an early KO.
Re: Payano v Warren
I'm struggling to see how you guys are in the dark with Warren who's fights have been televised... And Payano beat one of the best technical counterpuncher in boxing so it was Worth a look...
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UK fans haven't seen WarrenTheBeast wrote:I'm struggling to see how you guys are in the dark with Warren who's fights have been televised... And Payano beat one of the best technical counterpuncher in boxing so it was Worth a look...
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this is shaping up to be a good fight 
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Dammit! I can't find it.demon1 wrote:this is shaping up to be a good fight
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this ref blows. way too many warnings against Payano.
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No kidding.....terrible job.demon1 wrote:this ref blows. way too many warnings against Payano.
Re: Payano v Warren
Messy but enjoyable action.
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agreed. tough fight to score..watching on a crappy stream thoughcrusader wrote:Messy but enjoyable action.
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Got dropped with a headbutt
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Payano wins SD....I had him just edging it too.
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Definitely thought Warren won.
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I still need to see the first third. The two point penalty had to be the difference. Quite a decent scrap.crusader wrote:Payano wins SD....I had him just edging it too.
Re: Payano v Warren
Warren certainly has an argument as it was very competitive, but I thought there were too many periods in which he wasn't busy enough and was getting pushed back and hit, albeit not very cleanly, to an extent that outweighed his more accurate spots. He probably landed a higher percentage throughout but he seemed to go to sleep at points and in my view gave away rounds he could've had a much better shot of winning if he were more aggressive.
Can't see how it was clear-cut either way and I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch....very good fight
Can't see how it was clear-cut either way and I wouldn't mind seeing a rematch....very good fight
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Cota-Johnson undercard fight was very enjoyable too (Cota-Willie Nelson would be nice). I hope there are more of these evenly-matched fights in the future.
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Re: Payano v Warren
Thanks BeastTheBeast wrote:message sent
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That's the most entertaining PBC card I recall seeing.
More of that and less of Garcia-shopworn Paulie please.
More of that and less of Garcia-shopworn Paulie please.
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Re: Payano v Warren
Thought Payano had it quite comfortably until he got fucked up by the headclash.
Re: Payano v Warren
Warren didn't execute a winning gameplan... he hung around in the pocket WAY too much
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handsofstone
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Re: Payano v Warren
I thought Warren won it 114-110 but there were all close rounds and the ref's actions made it even harder to keep tabs off,was it the 9th that felt like it went on for about 10 minutes with all the stop/start action? I was surprised i had it so wide in when i tallied it up in the end because i agree Rau'shee had spells of just making Payano miss without throwing,i had Warren pulling it out the bag with the last few rounds though,i cant argue with Payano getting the nod though,in all the close rounds he seemed to want it more,strange calls from the ref throughout though
I agree with what's been said on here though,messy fight but thouroughly entertaining
I agree with what's been said on here though,messy fight but thouroughly entertaining