Fighters Moving Up in Weight

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Ambling Alp II
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Fighters Moving Up in Weight

Post by Ambling Alp II »

Thought this would be interesting.

Made of list of fighter who moved up in weight and were about as good or even better at the higher weight class as they were in the lower weight class.
There are 100 fighters listed. There would have been more but there wasn't the "junior" weight classes back way back. Many Old-Timers undoubtedly would have moved up a weight and done as well or better. I didn't count someone like Michael Spinks; even though he won the heavyweight title he was not as good of a heavyweight as he was a light heavy.
I'm sure there are many more. Feel free to add any that you can think of.

Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Iran Barkley
Marco Antonio Barrera
Jimmy Barry
Benny Bass
Carmen Basilio
Wilfred Benitez
Nino Benvenuti
Jimmy Bivins
Jimmy Braddock
Charlie Burley
Tommy Burns
Hector Camacho
Marvin Camel
Tony Canzoneri
Georges Carpentier
Marcel Cerdan
Antonio Cervantes
Bobby Chacon
Ezzard Charles
Julio Cesar Chavez
Kid Chocolate
Don Cockell
Billy Conn
Young Corbett III
Johnny Coulon
Bobby Czyz
Les Darcy
Oscar de la hoya
Carlos DeLeon
George Dixon
Johnny Dundee
Jimmy Ellis
Flash Elorde
Jeff Fenech
Bob Fitzsimmons
George Gardiner
Arturo Gatti
Kid Gavilan
Mike Gibbons
Tommy Gibbons
Billy Graham
Harry Greb
Fighting Harada
Len Harvey
Tommy Hearns
Charles Humez
Harry Jeffra
Eder Jofre
Doug Jones
Roy Jones
Ismael Laguna
Sam Langford
Tancey Lee
Rocky Lockridge
Raul Marquez
Floyd Mayweather
Roger Mayweather
Jock McAvoy
Kid McCoy
Buddy McGirt
Jimmy McLarnin
Mike McTigue
Tommy Milligan
Archie Moore
Michael Moorer
Erik Morales
Owen Moran
Shane Moseley
Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
Tony Mundane
Jose Naploes
Azumah Nelson
Carlos Ortiz
Manny Pacquaio
Vinny Pazienza
Willie Pastrano
Eusebio Pedroza
Lupe Pintor
Dwight Qawi
Gianfranco Rosi
Barney Ross
Mike Rossman
Gustave Roth
Tommy Ryan
Sandy Saddler
Salvador Sanchez
Max Schmeling
Kuniaki Shibata
Young Stribling
Lew Tendler
James Toney
Jose Torres
Felix Trinidad
Gene Tunney
Mickey Walker
Pernell Whitaker
Holman Williams
Ad Wolgast
Seamus
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This could be endless. I think 3 weights would be better. Lou Brouillard won world titles at Welterweight, Middleweight, and was a top 10 Light Heavyweight.
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They could win another crown, but, the question is if they dominated like their former class
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elmersalsa wrote:They could win another crown, but, the question is if they dominated like their former class
The glutten for punishment elmersalsa i'v already mentioned Remember the IBF Flyweight champ who won the WBC Jr Middleweight strap
I bet you know what a strap is your parent's would have worn out a few on you because you just won't listen :lol: :witzend: :doh:
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ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
elmersalsa wrote:They could win another crown, but, the question is if they dominated like their former class
The glutten for punishment elmersalsa i'v already mentioned Remember the IBF Flyweight champ who won the WBC Jr Middleweight strap
I bet you know what a strap is your parent's would have worn out a few on you because you just won't listen :lol: :witzend: :doh:
Manny didn't dominate all weight classes. He made pit stops, here and there.
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On a domestic level, Tony Mundine was superb in all sorts of weight classes. If you haven't looked at his record, it's definitely worth a look.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/11414
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Good list Ambling.....I think from a Brit perspective Duke McKenzie was pretty successful going from fly through to featherweight. The guy was probably at his best as a bantam but got world titles at Fly and Super Bantam and won a domestic title at feather.

Did not see Mike McCallum in there either who was pretty devastating from light middle up to light heavy....by and large I think there is a gap between the light middles and full-blown middleweight crowd and the Bodysnatcher beat quality in both divisions; I'd clean forgot that he'd blasted out Julian Jackson at light-middle and beat Kalambay twice at middle as well as drawing with Toney. Beating Harding...who was a tough SOB up at light heavy must have taken some doing as well.
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The Harding fight is excellent,mate, for me one of Mike's 3 best performances, given the weight and his age, and the pace Harding forced.
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Wouldn't say he dominated but south Africas dingaan thobela had title fights of some description from super feather right through to super middle skipping only light welter and picking up "proper" world titles at lightweight and super middle ! in fact his final fight was supposed to be for some sort of national title at lightheavy but thobela failed to make weight !
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You guys have come up with some interesting names to add to the list:
Lou Broulliard
Tony Mundine
Duke McKenzie
Dingaan Thobela
Yory Boy Campas' name was mentioned on another thread and he is another one.

Just thought of:
Paulie Ayala
Joel Casamayor
Jose Luis Castillo
Teddy Yarosz
Vince Dundee

I'm sure there are others that we are missing.
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Panama Al Brown Flyweight-Bantamweight
Newsboy Brown. Flweight to Featherweight
Baby Arizmendi. Flyweight to Welterweight
Midget Wolgast. Flyweight to Welterweight
Freddie Steele. Flyweight to (technically speaking) Light Heavyweight.
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didnt cleverly turn pro at welter ?
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keithmoonhangover wrote:On a domestic level, Tony Mundine was superb in all sorts of weight classes. If you haven't looked at his record, it's definitely worth a look.

http://boxrec.com/boxer/11414
Good get.

Mundine was a natural middleweight who won Commonwealth and national titles in higher divisions just so he could get more competitive fights.
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Back in the days when there were only 8 recognized weight divisions and only a single world title in each, Henry Armstrong held 3 of them at the same time. He was world featherweight, lightweight and welterweight champion.
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Like a Boss wrote:Back in the days when there were only 8 recognized weight divisions and only a single world title in each, Henry Armstrong held 3 of them at the same time. He was world featherweight, lightweight and welterweight champion.
That's why, to me, he is the best boxer ever
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elmersalsa wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:Back in the days when there were only 8 recognized weight divisions and only a single world title in each, Henry Armstrong held 3 of them at the same time. He was world featherweight, lightweight and welterweight champion.
That's why, to me, he is the best boxer ever
He certainly presents a strong argument.
Ambling Alp II
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Post by Ambling Alp II »

Seamus thought of 5 (Panama Al Brown, Newsboy Brown, Baby Arizmendi, Midget Wolgast, and Freddie Steele)
littlepug mentioned Nathan Cleverly.
I just thought of 4 more: Eddie Booker, Lloyd Marshall, Don Cockell, and Harry Mathews.

That puts us up to 120. I'm sure there are more.
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No one would mistake him for one of the "best ever", but didn't Carlos De Leon jump a bunch of divisions. I'm too lazy to check our own database, but I'd swear he started out at Welterweight.
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He was pretty good.
According to the Boxrec Database, he had a fight early in his career where he weighed just 135, which would make him just a lightweight! He won the cruiserweight title just 4 years later!
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