Jerry Quarry vrs. Buster Mathis/ March.29.1969/ MSG

[BoxBuzz]

check out this rare 6 minute clip extract(from a 10 round fight)
of Jerry Quarry vrs Eddie Machen July.14.1966 Olympic Auditorium Los Angeles California.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih-nNCUuZBg

(you know the crtics said Quarry was lackluster in this fight,but in these rounds here it looks to me like Quarry
was the one takeing the intiative and actually fighting,even when Eddie Machen seems to go 'plumb loco" at one point in the round there)

How is anything on youtube rare?

As opposed to "well done"?

[Caractacus]

How is anything on youtube rare?

well had you seen that clip before I posted the link?
or lets put it this way.
The clip was probably rarely seen UNTIL someone posted it up on youtube.

[Caractacus]

here is a link to about 10 minutes of some(previously) rare video-tape of Jerry Quarry vrs Joey Orbillo
December15.1966


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L143yv55uHs

[klompton]

here is a link to about 10 minutes of some(previously) rare video-tape of Jerry Quarry vrs Joey Orbillo
December15.1966


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L143yv55uHs

Never rare. Been around for decades.

[Caractacus]

here is a link to about 10 minutes of some(previously) rare video-tape of Jerry Quarry vrs Joey Orbillo
December15.1966


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L143yv55uHs

BTW Does that fight appear to have been recorded on video-tape or is it on kinescope back in 1966?
(Im not an expert enuff to tell)

[Caractacus]

check this out.
I just came across this a while back.
This appears(to me anyway perhaps )
to be a home video recording that was taken off of television of a 1970 BBC programme called
THE JULIE FELIX SHOW.
It is Jimmy Page playing the guitar instrumental White Summer/Black Mountain Side.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz-ToeZVXc

[evrenb]

check this out.
I just came across this a while back.
This appears(to me anyway perhaps )
to be a home video recording that was taken off of television of a 1970 BBC programme called
THE JULIE FELIX SHOW.
It is Jimmy Page playing the guitar instrumental White Summer/Black Mountain Side.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz-ToeZVXc

At least you have good taste in music lol

[Caractacus]

check this out.
I just came across this a while back.
This appears(to me anyway perhaps )
to be a home video recording that was taken off of television of a 1970 BBC programme called
THE JULIE FELIX SHOW.
It is Jimmy Page playing the guitar instrumental White Summer/Black Mountain Side.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz-ToeZVXc

Yes,my point in linking to that is,if you listen to another poster here,it would have been virtually impossible
for someone to have had home video-taped something off of the telly back then in 1970.
If even this was just 6 months after the BBC had shown after the Quarry vrs Mathis fight.
BTW Did you notice the quality of the video-tape tho?
Its pretty bad,looks like all the magnetic bars are a bit out of synch with one another.
If this hadnt been a muscial performance,the owner may have tossed it out years before youtube came around.

[evrenb]

check this out.
I just came across this a while back.
This appears(to me anyway perhaps )
to be a home video recording that was taken off of television of a 1970 BBC programme called
THE JULIE FELIX SHOW.
It is Jimmy Page playing the guitar instrumental White Summer/Black Mountain Side.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz-ToeZVXc

Yes,my point in linking to that is,if you listen to another poster here,it would have been virtually impossible
for someone to have had home video-taped something off of the telly back then in 1970.
If even this was just 6 months after the BBC had shown after the Quarry vrs Mathis fight.
BTW Did you notice the quality of the video-tape tho?
Its pretty bad,looks like all the magnetic bars are a bit out of synch with one another.
If this hadnt been a muscial performance,the owner may have tossed it out years before youtube came around.

I'm not going there with you. Sometimes, perhaps you should just say thanks...And move on.

[Caractacus]

here is a link to about 10 minutes of some(previously) rare video-tape of Jerry Quarry vrs Joey Orbillo
December15.1966


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L143yv55uHs

Never rare. Been around for decades.

Yes it has been(obviously its from the year 1966)
However IYOP ,does it look to be of a video-tape or kinescope?(or possibly a kinescope transferred to video-tape at a later date?)
How could someone have recorded at home back then tho?
(if so they must have recorded it off of KTLA Channel 5 in Los Angeles California back then?)

[evrenb]

D

[klompton]

check this out.
I just came across this a while back.
This appears(to me anyway perhaps )
to be a home video recording that was taken off of television of a 1970 BBC programme called
THE JULIE FELIX SHOW.
It is Jimmy Page playing the guitar instrumental White Summer/Black Mountain Side.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Pvz-ToeZVXc

What an idiot. What makes you think that this was recorded on vhs? Lol. It very obviously came from the BBC, the timecode identifying it as coming from a professional archive for preview purposes should have been your first clue.

Quarry Orbillo is in such bad shape its hard to tell what that is but my guess is its 16mm sound. The Olympic used to film their fights on 16mm sound and send them out to tv stations to broadcast. I have a friend who lives in the pacific northwest and used to watch them a week or two later like this. I have several of these films, they are not uncommon. Several of Quarrys early films were shot this way. It could be a kinescope though. Quad is another possibility. Im not sure what point you are trying to make with this line of questioning and posts.

[Caractacus]

Hey Im pretty sure that all 1960's video-recorders had the time meter on them.(they werent exactly cheap back then).
What makes you such an expert on these matters anyway?
BTW If that video-tape came from the original BBC archives,
then where is their copy of Quarry vrs Mathis which was also shown on the BBC?

[Caractacus]

Quarry Orbillo is in such bad shape its hard to tell what that is but my guess is its 16mm sound. The Olympic used to film their fights on 16mm sound and send them out to tv stations to broadcast. I have a friend who lives in the pacific northwest and used to watch them a week or two later like this. I have several of these films, they are not uncommon. Several of Quarrys early films were shot this way. It could be a kinescope though. Quad is another possibility. Im not sure what point you are trying to make with this line of questioning and posts.

Possibly filmed in 16mm film/sound in Black and White huh?
Dont make me bloody well larf.

[klompton]

Uhh no, 1960s video recorders didnt have a timecode at the bottom. LOL. That timecode is put there by a professional archive for preview purposes when they send it out to someone wanting to license it. Footage is licensed by the second. They tell the archive a starting point and ending point on the timecode that they want to license and a non-timecoded clip of the requested footage is provided and billed for that duration. For someone who is so convinced of something your ignorance on the subject is astounding.

And yes, there is/was 16mm sound b/w film. What makes you think thats not possible? Go onto youtube and you will find millions of examples.

[Caractacus]

Okay then how do you explain the absense of the BBC version of Quarry vrs Mathis?
Why should the ones with a time code just survive anyway?

[Caractacus]

BTW Then were is the time code on this footage from 1971 from the BBC?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfypx1zTRuQ

[Caractacus]

The point I am trying to make is that you seem compleatly sure that Ibsoulutely no footage of
Jerry Quarry vrs Buster Mathis can still exist anywhere,
(even though it was shown on National teLvision both in the USA and the UK.
however you yourself have given numerous examples(and excuses)
for fight footage from the years 1969-1970 and in what forms they
were able to survive up until the present.

[klompton]

Listen you stupid bastard. There are no BBC videos that only survived because they had a timecode. Time codes are put on the video after the fact when they are sent out to prospective licensees at the time they are sent out. The BBC is well known to have wiped tapes and or recorded over previously used tapes (and didnt even record every show to begin with) to keep costs down. There isnt always a rhyme or reason to this. Thats why SOME programs exist fron that era in their archives and some dont. I once again use the prime example of Dr. Who, where some programs exist from that era of the series but others dont

The reason why the other video posted doesnt have one is because it ibviously didnt originate from a source that was sent out with a timecode.

I never said no footage of Quarry-Mathis COULD POSSIBLY EXIST. Anything is possible. You COULD POSSIBLY be an intelligent bipedal life form with opposible thumbs but your clearly not. Im not interested in stupid ass suppositions about how a fornicating film MIGHT HAVE survived in the absence of any evidence that it actually did. The facts are that the only known recording of this fight was destroyed before ever duplicated or transferred. A guy once set the internet affire by claiming to have a copy but it has now been conclusively proven that he was lying. The BBC, whether you choose to believe it or not has no copy of this film in their archive. I know this because a friend of mine who posts here and who I trust beyond question (which is saying a lot) has a contact at the BBC who researched this fight and found that no record existed of it ever being preserved.

So you continue to post your pointless "what ifs" and "why fors" but until you come back with something showing that the fight DOES exist I will continue to cobsider it lost because I dont care what COULD exist. Every fight that was ever filmed COULD exist that doesnt make it so.