Kenny Bayless

[Ricky_]

Think this guy has ever read a boxing rule book? Maybe he just skips the bit about excessive holding?

Out of Floyd's last 12 fights Bayless has reffed 50% of them, and 100% of his last 3 fights.

And a word for Dave Moretti, sitting in judgement of Floyd's 5th... yes, fifth, straight fight in a row, (including the Maidana robbery and subsequent rematch ).

With Floyd now retiring, do Bayless & Moretti become free agents? Or do you think it's Showtime they are contracted to?

[Nightmare Roy]

[caldo2025]

I'm really happy that it's all over. No more Floyd. No more boring $79.99 fights. Now Boxing can start promoting some action fighters. Not a holding, ducking, forearm wielding guy who won a fight last night without landing a right hand until the 12th round. Jab, jab, jab...hold duck....dance...mug for camera...hug, duck...hug...forearm...jab...jab...body jab....hold duck... Good riddance.

[Aaronide_ger]

Its actually funny that Moretti scored the bout 117-111... Maybe he intentionally did that for people to believe he wasnt "Paid"

And Kenny Bayless is one of the worst referees I have ever seen, He stops holding after 10-15 seconds and when theres actually an infight he STOPS them immedietly, and this happened 2-3 times with the Berto fight.. Its Disgusting to watch.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'm really happy that it's all over. No more Floyd. No more boring $79.99 fights. Now Boxing can start promoting some action fighters. Not a holding, ducking, forearm wielding guy who won a fight last night without landing a right hand until the 12th round. Jab, jab, jab...hold duck....dance...mug for camera...hug, duck...hug...forearm...jab...jab...body jab....hold duck... Good riddance.

Don't celebrate just yet, he will definitely have at least one more fight.

I thought he actually was fairly entertaining against Berto, certainly more so than the Pacquaio fight. He landed some hard shots on Berto.

[Ricky_]

Its actually funny that Moretti scored the bout 117-111... Maybe he intentionally did that for people to believe he wasnt "Paid"

And Kenny Bayless is one of the worst referees I have ever seen, He stops holding after 10-15 seconds and when theres actually an infight he STOPS them immedietly, and this happened 2-3 times with the Berto fight.. Its Disgusting to watch.

Absolutely, Mayweather had Berto's right glove crabbed under his armpit last night and Floyd was smooshing his right glove/wrist into Berto's face and Bayless was standing behind Berto shouting "Work out!"

[caldo2025]

Absolutely, Mayweather had Berto's right glove crabbed under his armpit last night and Floyd was smooshing his right glove/wrist into Berto's face and Bayless was standing behind Berto shouting "Work out!"

It's hilarious that Bayless hasn't warned Floyd for holding in any of his last several fights. Can you even imagine? I especially love it how if they are in the clinch and Floyd is getting the best of it, Bayless lets it go on. But if Berto landed a shot in the clinch, he'd break it up super fast. Either way, Floyd wins that fight but it's just funny to me.

But honestly, how can you beat a fighter that has the judges, the ref and the drug testing company in his pocket. I'd be undefeated too and i can barely make it to the mailbox without losing my breath. NTBE.

[Ricky_]

Absolutely, Mayweather had Berto's right glove crabbed under his armpit last night and Floyd was smooshing his right glove/wrist into Berto's face and Bayless was standing behind Berto shouting "Work out!"

It's hilarious that Bayless hasn't warned Floyd for holding in any of his last several fights. Can you even imagine? I especially love it how if they are in the clinch and Floyd is getting the best of it, Bayless lets it go on. But if Berto landed a shot in the clinch, he'd break it up super fast. Either way, Floyd wins that fight but it's just funny to me.

But honestly, how can you beat a fighter that has the judges, the ref and the drug testing company in his pocket. I'd be undefeated too and i can barely make it to the mailbox without losing my breath. NTBE.

If Bayless or any ref ever had the audacity to deduct a point it be the last paycheque they ever earned from a Floyd fight.

Some of the behaviour of ref's in Floyd fights over the years has been unbelievable;

Punched on a break vs Gatti, ref ignores it, leads to Gatti getting kncoked down.
Clear knockdown not scored vs Judah.
Clear DQ vs Judah not enforced for seconds entering the ring.
Cortez deducting Hatton a point for punching a rope.
Cortez counting out Ortiz even though he never seen why he was on the floor.
Bayless going over to Maidana's corner and issueing a warning for a 'bite' which he also said he "never saw" (so effectively, a warning because Floyd said so).
Not once deducted a point for clinching or forearm rubbing/pushing, which he does non-stop. Infact I can barely even recall a stern warning.

[Ricky_]

Its actually funny that Moretti scored the bout 117-111... Maybe he intentionally did that for people to believe he wasnt "Paid"

He scored Berto, Maidana 1 & Cotto the same. 9-3.

He had Alvarez closer, 8-4.

And he had Floyd 10-2 Pacquiao ( )


I' m pretty sure he fills out his card beforehand, so he can sit back and enjoy watching his buddy box, who can be assed tallying up effective aggression and clean punching anyway?

[caldo2025]

The most egregious of all offenses I think is this IV situation. It just proves that Floyd has not been adhering to the rules that his opponents have been forced to. To think that this was an isolated situation or a one off from the norm, is just silly. Let's face the facts here. The guy is 38 years old. Think about 25 years ago, was there ever a 38 year old at the top of their game? No. Especially at the lighter weights.

The guys dirty and been operating with impunity for many years now. Any quality boxer would be undefeated with these advantages afforded to him every single fight. I used to be a fan but couldn't continue as one after looking at all the facts. Dirty

[Aaronide_ger]

Its actually funny that Moretti scored the bout 117-111... Maybe he intentionally did that for people to believe he wasnt "Paid"

He scored Berto, Maidana 1 & Cotto the same. 9-3.

He had Alvarez closer, 8-4.

And he had Floyd 10-2 Pacquiao ( )


I' m pretty sure he fills out his card beforehand, so he can sit back and enjoy watching his buddy box, who can be assed tallying up effective aggression and clean punching anyway?

"I' m pretty sure he fills out his card beforehand, so he can sit back and enjoy watching his buddy box" This killed me right here bro

You are absolutely correct in your statement above this post

[kidbazooka1]

Bayless was always chosen by Floyd for a reason a blind man could see that.

Imo one of the worst refs ever in boxing.

[MachoTime]

Bayless and Moretti probably live in Las Vegas.

[Ricky_]

Bayless and Moretti probably live in Las Vegas.

Got their own quarters at the big boy mansion.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Think this guy has ever read a boxing rule book? Maybe he just skips the bit about excessive holding?

Out of Floyd's last 12 fights Bayless has reffed 50% of them, and 100% of his last 3 fights.

And a word for Dave Moretti, sitting in judgement of Floyd's 5th... yes, fifth, straight fight in a row, (including the Maidana robbery and subsequent rematch ).

With Floyd now retiring, do Bayless & Moretti become free agents? Or do you think it's Showtime they are contracted to?

He has also refereed over 50% of Pacquaio's fights.

The judges are regulated by the Nevada commission, they get LOTS of big fights. There aren't that many referees out there full stop.

[Ricky_]

He has also refereed over 50% of Pacquaio's fights.

The judges are regulated by the Nevada commission, they get LOTS of big fights. There aren't that many referees out there full stop.

Leave it out brother, there aren't that many ref's on the rota so you draw the same guy 3x in a row and 6 times out of 12?

GTFO.

What about judges, not enough judges that you draw the same guy 5x times in a row?

Even the BBBoC with the tiny rota they have, have the ability to ensure a fair mix. Unless you know of any fighters racking up 5-in-a-rows with the same judge in England??

Tony Weeks let some sh!t go in the first Maidana fight. Floyd sacked him, and brought Bayless in for his final 3.

[olij999]

Re the above post, in Ricky Hatton's career he had the same referee (Mickey Vann) for 8 consecutive WBU title fights between 2001 and 2002.

[PredatorHayds]

I don't normally jump on the Kenny Bayless bandwagon but I thought he was awful Saturday.

He let Floyd hold at will also inside everytime Berto looked like throwing a punch he split them up.

Worst ref display in a Mayweather fight since Cortez and Hatton.

The ref is picked by the Nevada state athletic commission.
Does anyone know if they get a flat fee or a percentage to commission fights.
Either way I'd guess they have made a lot of money off Floyd over the years .

[Pureist]

He has also refereed over 50% of Pacquaio's fights.

The judges are regulated by the Nevada commission, they get LOTS of big fights. There aren't that many referees out there full stop.

Leave it out brother, there aren't that many ref's on the rota so you draw the same guy 3x in a row and 6 times out of 12?

GTFO.

What about judges, not enough judges that you draw the same guy 5x times in a row?

Even the BBBoC with the tiny rota they have, have the ability to ensure a fair mix. Unless you know of any fighters racking up 5-in-a-rows with the same judge in England??

Tony Weeks let some sh!t go in the first Maidana fight. Floyd sacked him, and brought Bayless in for his final 3.

They have planes in this day and age, you can actually fly judges and refs in from other parts of the world as well, but then floyd wouldn't have control

[caldo2025]

He has also refereed over 50% of Pacquaio's fights.

The judges are regulated by the Nevada commission, they get LOTS of big fights. There aren't that many referees out there full stop.

Moretti has worked 11 out of Floyd's last 15 fights. You don't find that odd? Moretti is from NJ so it's not a Las Vegas thing. It just smells like several other unfair advantages Floyd gets continuously and he'll never be TBE because of them.

I'm pretty happy about not having to watch any more of Floyd's hugfests.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I don't normally jump on the Kenny Bayless bandwagon but I thought he was awful Saturday.

He let Floyd hold at will also inside everytime Berto looked like throwing a punch he split them up.

Worst ref display in a Mayweather fight since Cortez and Hatton.

The ref is picked by the Nevada state athletic commission.
Does anyone know if they get a flat fee or a percentage to commission fights.
Either way I'd guess they have made a lot of money off Floyd over the years .

If you look at both Manny and Floyds fights in LV, you will see the same 3 refs cropping up, that's because there are very few WORLD CLASS referees within each athletic commission, and the way it works in the states is that the athletic commission appoints it's own approved refs. I'm not sure what possible basis there is for a conspiracy is here. 7 of Manny's last 8 fights have been refereed by Baylis.

You might not like his refereeing, but the fact is, he gets loads of gigs in NV - he's clearly one of a handful of top flight referees who are approved for world title fights in Nevada.

I was under the impression that athletic commissions are not for profit organisations. They will charge fees for their officials, which is paid out of the promotion. They wouldn't get a percentage, that is something the governing bodies get. As Mayweather is his own promoter, there is a conflict of interests, as it means he gets to influence choice of officials - although he cannot flat out demand whoever he wants, if Nevada wants to keep him fighting there, to benefit the local economy then he's likely to have some say.

[MachoTime]

I don't normally jump on the Kenny Bayless bandwagon but I thought he was awful Saturday.

He let Floyd hold at will also inside everytime Berto looked like throwing a punch he split them up.

Worst ref display in a Mayweather fight since Cortez and Hatton.

The ref is picked by the Nevada state athletic commission.
Does anyone know if they get a flat fee or a percentage to commission fights.
Either way I'd guess they have made a lot of money off Floyd over the years .

I was anticipating Bayless to side with Mayweather in the Berto fight.

The second Maidana fight was really bad. In the Berto fight I didn't really see Bayless siding with Mayweather. I just saw a lot of holding by both fighters.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I don't normally jump on the Kenny Bayless bandwagon but I thought he was awful Saturday.

He let Floyd hold at will also inside everytime Berto looked like throwing a punch he split them up.

Worst ref display in a Mayweather fight since Cortez and Hatton.

The ref is picked by the Nevada state athletic commission.
Does anyone know if they get a flat fee or a percentage to commission fights.
Either way I'd guess they have made a lot of money off Floyd over the years .

I was anticipating Bayless to side with Mayweather in the Berto fight.

The second Maidana fight was really bad. In the Berto fight I didn't really see Bayless siding with Mayweather. I just saw a lot of holding by both fighters.

Me either - just saw the ref breaking up fighters who were both holding on the inside.

The worst I ever saw frankly was Cortez - who basically stopped Hatton fighting on the inside entirely against Floyd. I notice he never seemed to get the gig again.

[Ricky_]

Me either - just saw the ref breaking up fighters who were both holding on the inside.

Sure you didn't. Mayweather was initiating clinches, as he always does, with complete impunity.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Me either - just saw the ref breaking up fighters who were both holding on the inside.

Sure you didn't. Mayweather was initiating clinches, as he always does, with complete impunity.

Berto was holding every bit as much as far as I can see. There was lots of ugly clinching going on initiated by both men.

As far as I can see, NOBODY these days seems to get warned or points deducted for excessive holding - unless it is so flagrant that they are clinging on like an octopus. The last time I remember anyone getting DQ'd for excessive holding was Henry Akinwande against Lennox Lewis, and he really was like a horny octopus.

It's just not an infringement which seems to get punished these days.

Chris John Ruiz made an entire career out of it.

You can try and say I'm bias if you like, but it's not true - Mayweather bores me to tears, I'll be glad to see the back of him, but I'm not going to cry conspiracy where I see none.