Rohan Murdock said to be Andre Ward's next opponent

[MidniteProwler]

This is a terrible mismatch, even if Murdock is getting good money his handlers should consider his safety first, he will get seriously hurt by Andre Ward.

Im sure they won't let him get seriously hurt. Ward isn't a heavy handed fighter. Agree with the mismatch part but who are we to talk about mismatches in Australia. We use the Philos,Argies,Indos and retired,neurological damaged fighters the Yanks and others use us. $275k paydays don't come up everyday.

I always laugh at idiots who think Ward can't punch, Ward would have a lot more KO's on his record if he fought some of the bums that Golovkin & Quillin have fought, it would have been hard to register a KO in the super six tournament with all the big names in there.

Make no mistake about it Ward will lay Murdock out if they fight, there's a big difference in getting hit by Aussie no names and getting hit by Andre Ward.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Its what fighter's dream about they get out of bed at 4/5am in the morning to run with this dream what's Murdock and his team to do :??
Say Rohan aint ready for Ward yet......... Team Murdock could get some fight's that would build his resume and then he could jump in the deep end and we probably would all be calling his resume building fight's mismatche's anyway so go for it Rohan get that good payday and spend it
wisely Champ.......................That's why so many different people from different walk's of life love this game it doesn't matter what colour or creed you are if you believe in your dream's and work hard they just may come true and we watch because anything can happen in a fight that's why we love it 10 second's and your gone

[crusader]

This is a terrible mismatch, even if Murdock is getting good money his handlers should consider his safety first, he will get seriously hurt by Andre Ward.

Im sure they won't let him get seriously hurt. Ward isn't a heavy handed fighter. Agree with the mismatch part but who are we to talk about mismatches in Australia. We use the Philos,Argies,Indos and retired,neurological damaged fighters the Yanks and others use us. $275k paydays don't come up everyday.

I always laugh at idiots who think Ward can't punch, Ward would have a lot more KO's on his record if he fought some of the bums that Golovkin & Quillin have fought, it would have been hard to register a KO in the super six tournament with all the big names in there.

Make no mistake about it Ward will lay Murdock out if they fight, there's a big difference in getting hit by Aussie no names and getting hit by Andre Ward.

Ward couldn't even drop or seriously hurt chinny fighters like Green or Miranda despite hitting them plenty. Rodriguez, Smith, and Sugar Poo Buchanan are also hardly Super Six quality fighters and he didn't seem to hurt any of them despite continually landing with clean shots. Pretty much all of his stoppages have been against poor opponents (much worse than most of GGG's challengers) and usually they've occurred due to sustained punishment rather than him laying them out in the fashion of a puncher.

What is your evidence for him being a puncher (assuming that someone being able to punch = puncher)? Just the stoppage of fragile, drained Dawson?

[buster007]

he wouldn't even know who ward has fought without checking on boxrec, lol.

its just his usual negative reaction to every topic.

[MidniteProwler]

Ward couldn't even drop or seriously hurt chinny fighters like Green or Miranda despite hitting them plenty. Rodriguez, Smith, and Sugar Poo Buchanan are also hardly Super Six quality fighters and he didn't seem to hurt any of them despite continually landing with clean shots. Pretty much all of his stoppages have been against poor opponents (much worse than most of GGG's challengers) and usually they've occurred due to sustained punishment rather than him laying them out in the fashion of a puncher.

What is your evidence for him being a puncher (assuming that someone being able to punch = puncher)? Just the stoppage of fragile, drained Dawson?[/quote]

LOL Green had never been stopped before fighting Ward, I would not call him Chinny because he got KO'd later in his career, Miranda had only been stopped by devastating punchers like Pavlik & Abraham before fighting Ward. Ward is one of my favourite fighters and I have followed his career closely, I will be very disappointed if he fights Murdock.

Also I never said Ward was a devastating puncher, I said I laugh at idiots who say he can't punch, I also said Murdock will find out the difference real quick what it's like to be hit by a world class fighter compared to being his by low level Australian boxers.

[Francis75]

LOL Green had never been stopped before fighting Ward, I would not call him Chinny because he got KO'd later in his career, Miranda had only been stopped by devastating punchers like Pavlik & Abraham before fighting Ward. Ward is one of my favourite fighters and I have followed his career closely, I will be very disappointed if he fights Murdock.

Also I never said Ward was a devastating puncher, I said I laugh at idiots who say he can't punch, I also said Murdock will find out the difference real quick what it's like to be hit by a world class fighter compared to being his by low level Australian boxers.

Bingo.

[Like a Boss]

Its what fighter's dream about they get out of bed at 4/5am in the morning to run with this dream what's Murdock and his team to do :??
Say Rohan aint ready for Ward yet......... Team Murdock could get some fight's that would build his resume and then he could jump in the deep end and we probably would all be calling his resume building fight's mismatche's anyway so go for it Rohan get that good payday and spend it
wisely Champ.......................That's why so many different people from different walk's of life love this game it doesn't matter what colour or creed you are if you believe in your dream's and work hard they just may come true and we watch because anything can happen in a fight that's why we love it 10 second's and your gone

Huge payday for Murdock and one he could hardly say no to. This is one of those Rocky-like opportunities and If he were to win, which seems highly unlikely, it would rank with the biggest upsets in boxing history.

[DA GOOSE]

Its what fighter's dream about they get out of bed at 4/5am in the morning to run with this dream what's Murdock and his team to do :??
Say Rohan aint ready for Ward yet......... Team Murdock could get some fight's that would build his resume and then he could jump in the deep end and we probably would all be calling his resume building fight's mismatche's anyway so go for it Rohan get that good payday and spend it
wisely Champ.......................That's why so many different people from different walk's of life love this game it doesn't matter what colour or creed you are if you believe in your dream's and work hard they just may come true and we watch because anything can happen in a fight that's why we love it 10 second's and your gone

Great post CPL GO NO MERCY (though he has a 0.5% chance it's still a chance).

[DA GOOSE]

This is a terrible mismatch, even if Murdock is getting good money his handlers should consider his safety first, he will get seriously hurt by Andre Ward.

Im sure they won't let him get seriously hurt. Ward isn't a heavy handed fighter. Agree with the mismatch part but who are we to talk about mismatches in Australia. We use the Philos,Argies,Indos and retired,neurological damaged fighters the Yanks and others use us. $275k paydays don't come up everyday.

I always laugh at idiots who think Ward can't punch, Ward would have a lot more KO's on his record if he fought some of the bums that Golovkin & Quillin have fought, it would have been hard to register a KO in the super six tournament with all the big names in there.

Make no mistake about it Ward will lay Murdock out if they fight, there's a big difference in getting hit by Aussie no names and getting hit by Andre Ward.

He may stop Rohan if they fight(because of the class difference) but he's not a monster puncher I can't see Rohan getting pole axed by Ward or anything.

[crusader]

LOL Green had never been stopped before fighting Ward, I would not call him Chinny because he got KO'd later in his career, Miranda had only been stopped by devastating punchers like Pavlik & Abraham before fighting Ward. Ward is one of my favourite fighters and I have followed his career closely, I will be very disappointed if he fights Murdock.

Also I never said Ward was a devastating puncher, I said I laugh at idiots who say he can't punch, I also said Murdock will find out the difference real quick what it's like to be hit by a world class fighter compared to being his by low level Australian boxers.

Before he fought Ward in the SS Green was badly hurt and nearly stopped by clubfighter Donny McCreary, while he was down twice against Miranda and would've likely been stopped if the bout were scheduled for another round. Then shortly after taking plenty of clean shots from Ward yet never looking in serious trouble, Green was dropped and knocked out by fellow SS participants Glen Johnson and Mikkel Kessler (a brutal KTFO). In fact, he has been hurt and in major trouble against every high-level fighter he's faced, except for Andre Ward of course. It's a similar story with Miranda, and aside from his earlier stoppage losses he was heavily and quickly stopped by Bute shortly after taking Ward 12 and never looking in trouble.

Then we have people like Rodriguez, Smith, and Buchanan who again took Ward's punches just fine, so there is plenty of evidence that Ward doesn't show much power even when he's facing non-elite opponents like Froch and Kessler. He's only clearly hurt weight-drained Dawson and poor opposition, and even in those cases he typically won via steady beating rather than by laying his opponents out like a puncher would (has he ever done that?).

Of course Ward is far better than an inexperienced, domestic level fight like Murdock, and I suspect that if they fought he'd stop him eventually on an accumulation of blows as was the case with Smith, but it's hardly laughable that people don't think Ward can punch.

[Francis75]

It doesn't matter if Ward may not be a massive puncher, when the SKILL gap is that massive between the two fighters then a stoppage will most probably occur. Example of this is Floyd against Corrales and Gatti. When your skills totally overwelm the other fighters abilities your punchers will most certainly count. ward will stop him.

[Like a Boss]

LOL Green had never been stopped before fighting Ward, I would not call him Chinny because he got KO'd later in his career, Miranda had only been stopped by devastating punchers like Pavlik & Abraham before fighting Ward. Ward is one of my favourite fighters and I have followed his career closely, I will be very disappointed if he fights Murdock.

Also I never said Ward was a devastating puncher, I said I laugh at idiots who say he can't punch, I also said Murdock will find out the difference real quick what it's like to be hit by a world class fighter compared to being his by low level Australian boxers.

Before he fought Ward in the SS Green was badly hurt and nearly stopped by clubfighter Donny McCreary, while he was down twice against Miranda and would've likely been stopped if the bout were scheduled for another round. Then shortly after taking plenty of clean shots from Ward yet never looking in serious trouble, Green was dropped and knocked out by fellow SS participants Glen Johnson and Mikkel Kessler (a brutal KTFO). In fact, he has been hurt and in major trouble against every high-level fighter he's faced, except for Andre Ward of course. It's a similar story with Miranda, and aside from his earlier stoppage losses he was heavily and quickly stopped by Bute shortly after taking Ward 12 and never looking in trouble.

Then we have people like Rodriguez, Smith, and Buchanan who again took Ward's punches just fine, so there is plenty of evidence that Ward doesn't show much power even when he's facing non-elite opponents like Froch and Kessler. He's only clearly hurt weight-drained Dawson and poor opposition, and even in those cases he typically won via steady beating rather than by laying his opponents out like a puncher would (has he ever done that?).

Of course Ward is far better than an inexperienced, domestic level fight like Murdock, and I suspect that if they fought he'd stop him eventually on an accumulation of blows as was the case with Smith, but it's hardly laughable that people don't think Ward can punch.

Good post. There's nothing quite like supporting your argument with facts

[DA GOOSE]

It doesn't matter if Ward may not be a massive puncher, when the SKILL gap is that massive between the two fighters then a stoppage will most probably occur. Example of this is Floyd against Corrales and Gatti. When your skills totally overwelm the other fighters abilities your punchers will most certainly count. ward will stop him.

But it probably won't be a brutal stoppage. Rohan is unlikely to get a career ending beatdown and will earn a career high payday if this fight comes off and is approved. With Takashi Miura v Francisco Vargas added to the Cotto-Alvarez undercard Ward-Murdock may not make the grade. Hope it does though.

[bogan whisperer]

Everybody who has followed Andre Ward's career knows he isn't a big puncher. Even if you haven't, his career record of 15 stoppages from 28 fights at just over 50% should tell you something.

In any case, although both parties have agreed to the fight, according to Ben Damon the Nevada boxing commission looks likely to block the fight.

The reason Nevada might block it won't be to do with Ward's power either. It will be the difference in class between Ward and Murdock that sees them step in.

Apparently Ward wanted the fight at 175lbs too. A fairly strong hint he has Kovalev in his sights.

[DA GOOSE]

Everybody who has followed Andre Ward's career knows he isn't a big puncher. Even if you haven't, his career record of 15 stoppages from 28 fights at just over 50% should tell you something.

In any case, although both parties have agreed to the fight, according to Ben Damon the Nevada boxing commission looks likely to block the fight.

The reason Nevada might block it won't be to do with Ward's power either. It will be the difference in class between Ward and Murdock that sees them step in.

Apparently Ward wanted the fight at 175lbs too. A fairly strong hint he has Kovalev in his sights.

Damn, bad luck for for Rohan. Bet he wishes some Aussie officials like Phil Austin were on the Nevada Boxing commission. Still you can understand their stance.

[Like a Boss]

As much as this might have been Rohan Murdock's lucky day as far as paydays go, the reality is it was a huge mismatch and it is probably better off not happening.

[ClivePatrickLyons]

Its what fighter's dream about they get out of bed at 4/5am in the morning to run with this dream what's Murdock and his team to do :??
Say Rohan aint ready for Ward yet......... Team Murdock could get some fight's that would build his resume and then he could jump in the deep end and we probably would all be calling his resume building fight's mismatche's anyway so go for it Rohan get that good payday and spend it
wisely Champ.......................That's why so many different people from different walk's of life love this game it doesn't matter what colour or creed you are if you believe in your dream's and work hard they just may come true and we watch because anything can happen in a fight that's why we love it 10 second's and your gone

Great post CPL GO NO MERCY (though he has a 0.5% chance it's still a chance).

A THE GOOSE Sorry DA GOOSE whats GO NO MERCY :?? IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL YOUR BLOW UP GIRL FRIEND

[Like a Boss]

Its what fighter's dream about they get out of bed at 4/5am in the morning to run with this dream what's Murdock and his team to do :??
Say Rohan aint ready for Ward yet......... Team Murdock could get some fight's that would build his resume and then he could jump in the deep end and we probably would all be calling his resume building fight's mismatche's anyway so go for it Rohan get that good payday and spend it
wisely Champ.......................That's why so many different people from different walk's of life love this game it doesn't matter what colour or creed you are if you believe in your dream's and work hard they just may come true and we watch because anything can happen in a fight that's why we love it 10 second's and your gone

Great post CPL GO NO MERCY (though he has a 0.5% chance it's still a chance).

A THE GOOSE Sorry DA GOOSE whats GO NO MERCY :?? IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL YOUR BLOW UP GIRL FRIEND

That sure went sideways. Early lunch mate?

[Like a Boss]

Sounds like there is a new name in the frame for Andre Ward's opponent - In Alexander Brand?? Out Rohan Murdock??

Apparently Brand is 24-1, and a 38 year old journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. Brand fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward certainly taking no risks with the level of opponents he's looking at. Even being doubly sure by insisting they come up from 168 so they won't have a size advantage over him.

[DA GOOSE]

Its what fighter's dream about they get out of bed at 4/5am in the morning to run with this dream what's Murdock and his team to do :??
Say Rohan aint ready for Ward yet......... Team Murdock could get some fight's that would build his resume and then he could jump in the deep end and we probably would all be calling his resume building fight's mismatche's anyway so go for it Rohan get that good payday and spend it
wisely Champ.......................That's why so many different people from different walk's of life love this game it doesn't matter what colour or creed you are if you believe in your dream's and work hard they just may come true and we watch because anything can happen in a fight that's why we love it 10 second's and your gone

Great post CPL GO NO MERCY (though he has a 0.5% chance it's still a chance).

A THE GOOSE Sorry DA GOOSE whats GO NO MERCY :?? IS THAT WHAT YOU CALL YOUR BLOW UP GIRL FRIEND

I was saying GO NO MERCY. Meaning GO ROHAN(his nickname is Rohan''NO MERCY''Murdock. Anyway fights off now. Move along nothing to see here people.

[ra2006]

Sounds like there is a new name in the frame for Andre Ward's opponent - In Alexander Brand?? Out Rohan Murdock??

Apparently Brand is 24-1, and a 38 year old journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. Brand fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward certainly taking no risks with the level of opponents he's looking at. Even being doubly sure by insisting they come up from 168 so they won't have a size advantage over him.

And Boss, that is the whole point of this fight whom ever he is going to fight. I have always thought for the last 3 years that Ward is light years ahead of any SMW on the planet. He can stay there in the division, but he is just going to dip his toe in the LHW pool to see if he likes it.

There have been threads about Ward moving up for years, personally I think it would be a good move. He has done everything there is to do in SMW, and if he wants a weaker opponent to open his LHW phase up with then good on him. He has had some tough fights, and real warrior mamonets and I am not going to begrudge him that.

Plus whether it is Murdock or someone else they will get a brucey bonus pay packet and some exposure for their troubles. Its a win win for Ward and his unlucky opponent.

[Like a Boss]

Sounds like there is a new name in the frame for Andre Ward's opponent - In Alexander Brand?? Out Rohan Murdock??

Apparently Brand is 24-1, and a 38 year old journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. Brand fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward certainly taking no risks with the level of opponents he's looking at. Even being doubly sure by insisting they come up from 168 so they won't have a size advantage over him.

And Boss, that is the whole point of this fight whom ever he is going to fight. I have always thought for the last 3 years that Ward is light years ahead of any SMW on the planet. He can stay there in the division, but he is just going to dip his toe in the LHW pool to see if he likes it.

There have been threads about Ward moving up for years, personally I think it would be a good move. He has done everything there is to do in SMW, and if he wants a weaker opponent to open his LHW phase up with then good on him. He has had some tough fights, and real warrior mamonets and I am not going to begrudge him that.

Plus whether it is Murdock or someone else they will get a brucey bonus pay packet and some exposure for their troubles. Its a win win for Ward and his unlucky opponent.

I have been a fan of Ward's since the start of his career. You are right in what you say, he has cleaned up the SMW division, and credit to him for moving up to LHW.

But fighting a fattened up, journeyman SMH like Brand or young SMWs like Dunn and Murdock is hardly really moving up to LHW, is it? Why not just fight a journeyman LHW?

[convict]

A rematch Vs Bika at LHW?

[crusader]

Sounds like there is a new name in the frame for Andre Ward's opponent - In Alexander Brand?? Out Rohan Murdock??

Apparently Brand is 24-1, and a 38 year old journeyman from Columbia who started boxing at age 32. Brand fights at 168, but Ward wants him to move up to 175 for this fight.

Ward certainly taking no risks with the level of opponents he's looking at. Even being doubly sure by insisting they come up from 168 so they won't have a size advantage over him.

And Boss, that is the whole point of this fight whom ever he is going to fight. I have always thought for the last 3 years that Ward is light years ahead of any SMW on the planet. He can stay there in the division, but he is just going to dip his toe in the LHW pool to see if he likes it.

There have been threads about Ward moving up for years, personally I think it would be a good move. He has done everything there is to do in SMW, and if he wants a weaker opponent to open his LHW phase up with then good on him. He has had some tough fights, and real warrior mamonets and I am not going to begrudge him that.

Plus whether it is Murdock or someone else they will get a brucey bonus pay packet and some exposure for their troubles. Its a win win for Ward and his unlucky opponent.

Ward fought at LHW in his last fight, so his next bout wouldn't equate to him opening up his LHW phase, and I don't see how facing mediocre, blown-up super middleweights will help him prepare for the top at 175. If he's going to fight dross he could at least do so against a full-sized light heavy.

[Like a Boss]

I'm hearing Nevada are unlikely to approve Brand as Ward's opponent either.

This is becoming a bigger and bigger farce.