johnswan1 wrote:Frampton was an overwhelming favourite to beat Martinez both times, Frampton 1/4 to beat Martinez in their first fight
And yet if you choose to look at this thread, a load of people were expecting that this step up was too much too soon for Carl.
Edit: Frampton 1/4 to beat Martinez in their first fight,
http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f ... z#p2983293
johnswan1 wrote:and Calzaghe was a strong betting favourite against Hopkins and huge betting favouite against RJJ, so if they're the best picks you ever made then you must have some real shockers. Calzaghe was 1/2 to beat Hopkins, Calzaghe was 2/9 to beat Jones Jr.
Calzaghe had never fought at Light Heavy before and many were unsure on how he would carry the weight (Ricky Hatton didn't exactly shine in his Welterweight debut against Collazo) and frankly, Calzaghe still had his doubters considering the amount of good opponents that he never faced... People like; & RJJ, James Toney & Bernard himself. Even Sven Ottke was brought up on occasion.
So yes, Joe still had his nay-sayers in the ranks of boxing enthusiasts around the world.