fury must be delighted .....

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ok i just see the AJ vs Whyte fight in the pub and joshua looked well short of world title class to me if i was fury i'd be more than happy i didn't see much in joshua .yet .right now fury would school him .......i might be wrong as like i said i see it in the pub so not the best place to make a opinion ..
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He won't be fighting Fury for 18 months after that.
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Post by Horse »

Why would he be delighted?

Joshua has just lost credibility as a 2016 opponent.
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Nightmare Roy wrote:He won't be fighting Fury for 18 months after that.
:TU: exactly ...i just left a pub where everyone was saying he'd beat fury....... i had to leave because i got feed up saying that AJ didn't look good
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Horse wrote:Why would he be delighted?

Joshua has just lost credibility as a 2016 opponent.

you're right but now he knows he'd do AJ ...
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Post by lillywhite14 »

Nightmare Roy wrote:He won't be fighting Fury for 18 months after that.
He was at least 18 months off a shot before tonight. Why are people trying to rush him? Needs another 3/4 tests before contemplating a title challenge
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stevedoc wrote:you're right but now he knows he'd do AJ ...
He knew that anyway.
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Fury doesn't have the chin. Joshua early.
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Post by Finn »

Ricky_ wrote:Fury doesn't have the chin. Joshua early.
Are you a troll?
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Finn wrote:Are you a troll?
Troll or dullard.
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Horse wrote:
Finn wrote:Are you a troll?
Troll or dullard.
or possibly both :lol:
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Horse wrote:
Finn wrote:Are you a troll?
Troll or dullard.

:lol: imagine horse calling someone a dullard. You should change your username to Entertaining Father Stone
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Finn wrote:
Horse wrote:
Finn wrote:Are you a troll?
Troll or dullard.
or possibly both :lol:

Isn't that hilarious. Hey, remember that time Fury got flattened by a cruiserweight thst weighed about 5 stone lighter? That was a :lol:
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Ricky_ wrote: :lol: imagine horse calling someone a dullard. You should change your username to Entertaining Father Stone
I'm clearly one of the best ever posters on BoxRec.

My opinion carries great weight. My opinion suggests that you stink to high heaven.
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Horse wrote:
Ricky_ wrote: :lol: imagine horse calling someone a dullard. You should change your username to Entertaining Father Stone
I'm clearly one of the best ever posters on BoxRec.

My opinion carries great weight. My opinion suggests that you stink to high heaven.

Ok, entertaining father stone. You have a good night now.
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Post by Finn »

Ricky_ wrote:
Finn wrote:
Horse wrote:Troll or dullard.
or possibly both :lol:

Isn't that hilarious. Hey, remember that time Fury got flattened by a cruiserweight thst weighed about 5 stone lighter? That was a :lol:
You mean the time he got straight back up and then went on to win a one sided fight?

Hey remember the time Fury ended the 11 year reign of the WBO, WBA, IBF, IBO and Ring Heavy weight champion of the world?

I hear one time AJ who every casual wally fan thought could beat klitschko, Fury and David Haye if he fought them tomorrow, looked like he was about to crumble against and unproven domestic level fighter, incidental the first ever full time fighter he has ever faced.

He's at least a year and a half away from facing anyone like Fury or Haye. It wasnt that he was wobbled, it was his very poor recovery, any seasoned fighter would have jumped all over him and polished him off.
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Post by Mr Icaman »

What I go out of that fight:

Whyte has a chin.. Joshua doesn't have a glass one..

Joshua needs to learn head movement.

Fury would easily beat both with boxing and movement and counter punching. I know there is a massive hype train behind Joshua but it isn't ready to pull into the station just yet.. 12-18 months maybe.
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Post by Ricky_ »

Finn wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:
Finn wrote:
or possibly both :lol:

Isn't that hilarious. Hey, remember that time Fury got flattened by a cruiserweight thst weighed about 5 stone lighter? That was a :lol:
You mean the time he got straight back up and then went on to win a one sided fight?

Hey remember the time Fury ended the 11 year reign of the WBO, WBA, IBF, IBO and Ring Heavy weight champion of the world?

I hear one time AJ who every casual wally fan thought could beat klitschko, Fury and David Haye if he fought them tomorrow, looked like he was about to crumble against and unproven domestic level fighter, incidental the first ever full time fighter he has ever faced.

He's at least a year and a half away from facing anyone like Fury or Haye. It wasnt that he was wobbled, it was his very poor recovery, any seasoned fighter would have jumped all over him and polished him off.
About to crumble?? Joshua was shook up at worst and Whyte can bang. I'd probably say if you took an old, shot, unfit, gunshy Klitchko out of the picture then Whyte is a better win than anything Fury has on his record.

I agree Joshua is a matchroom hypejob and think he'll be found out but let's not act like Tyson Fury is a great fighter. He's a clumsy oversized oaf with a suspect chin and a ko waiting to happen.

Joshua will lose to a fighter with a granite chin that will absorb his best shots then take him late. Fury can't simply run from Joshua like he did Klitchko on the basis that Joshua isn't a 40 year old man.
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If anything I think AJ's flawed showing makes it less likely that he's rushed into a fight like this, and hence more likely that he'll be better prepared for Fury down the line.

AJ showed vulnerability and I believe that some people should rethink their position on his current standing in the division, but many top fighters have had similiar or worse experiences early in their careers, including Fury. It will be interesting to see where AJ is at in a few years and how relevant this fight seems by that point.
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crusader wrote:If anything I think AJ's flawed showing makes it less likely that he's rushed into a fight like this, and hence more likely that he'll be better prepared for Fury down the line.

AJ showed vulnerability and I believe that some people should rethink their position on his current standing in the division, but many top fighters have had similiar or worse experiences early in their careers, including Fury. It will be interesting to see where AJ is at in a few years and how relevant this fight seems by that point.
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I don't think Fury would care either way.

Fury shouldn't even be thinking about Joshua & nor should Joshua be thinking about fighting for the title right now.

Fury should be concentrating on Wladimir & looking forward to unifying with Wilder if he gets past Wladimir again.

Joshua is still a relative novice & is at least a year or 3 decent opponents from being championship ready.
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Do people forgot Fury being put down on his way up? You're all assuming Joshua stays at this level, I saw a fighter hurt for the first time who had to go back and gather himself and did, and got the knockout. I'm still not convinced by Joshua but this wasn't proof isn't good enough, there's a couple of years to go yet.
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What everyone is forgetting is that apart from Whyte's titanium chin he is a crap boxer and had Joshua going at times. Both of them got found out last night, cant remember a fight where the hype has exceeded the quality as much as this. Joshua will probably get steered to a paper title e.g. the IBF and Whyte will get some paydays on the back of his gutsy effort, but both are way short of top level
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SNG wrote:Do people forgot Fury being put down on his way up? You're all assuming Joshua stays at this level, I saw a fighter hurt for the first time who had to go back and gather himself and did, and got the knockout. I'm still not convinced by Joshua but this wasn't proof isn't good enough, there's a couple of years to go yet.
Good point, but Joshua and Fury are about the same age - so I see it less likely that Joshua can make the kind of improvements that Fury has in the last few years. I think a lot of Fury's improvements are based on him getting his diet and training on track, and the time it's taken for him to 'grow into' that 6'8.5" frame. Joshua's already at his physical peak by the looks of it, and last night his movement looked fairly poor at times - I can't see any way he could move around like Fury did against Wlad for 12 rounds. He's ticked the size, power and determination boxes - but I'm still not sold on his stamina, resiliance and ring smarts.
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SNG wrote:Do people forgot Fury being put down on his way up? You're all assuming Joshua stays at this level, I saw a fighter hurt for the first time who had to go back and gather himself and did, and got the knockout. I'm still not convinced by Joshua but this wasn't proof isn't good enough, there's a couple of years to go yet.
This is true. It turned out to be the fight we've all been waiting to see - Joshua facing someone who could take him into the later rounds & would hit him back. Now suddenly Joshua is 'exposed' just because these exact things happened.

Admittedly there's still a lot of work to do - Whyte landed with the right hand far more often than he should have done - but at least Joshua answered the questions posed of him. It was a valuable learning fight & will hopefully set him in good stead for the future.
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