Mark De Mori

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Re: Mark De Mori

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Totalpac wrote:Mark has way to much heart for that, unless it's super clean, it won't finish that early.

Anyone who doubts his heart can re watch his Leapai fight.

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You can't wear your heart on your jaw. If Haye starts hitting him clean it won't last long.
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Will De Mori become "Rocky" and Haye the "Ivan Drago", or will he just "float like bee, sting like a butterfly"?

No Hollywood ending here unless De Mori, the man of iron unfurls his secret stupendous shoulder smash.
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Re: Mark De Mori

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Redback Rasta wrote:
Totalpac wrote:Mark has way to much heart for that, unless it's super clean, it won't finish that early.

Anyone who doubts his heart can re watch his Leapai fight.

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You can't wear your heart on your jaw. If Haye starts hitting him clean it won't last long.
My post was in relation to a 1st round KO. I'd think Mark would have more likelyhood of a getting 1st round KO. Personally I don't see Haye coming out after 3 and a bit years out guns blazing.

You're right though it won't last long either way.
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Totalpac wrote:
Redback Rasta wrote:
Totalpac wrote:Mark has way to much heart for that, unless it's super clean, it won't finish that early.

Anyone who doubts his heart can re watch his Leapai fight.

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You can't wear your heart on your jaw. If Haye starts hitting him clean it won't last long.
My post was in relation to a 1st round KO. I'd think Mark would have more likelyhood of a getting 1st round KO. Personally I don't see Haye coming out after 3 and a bit years out guns blazing.

You're right though it won't last long either way.
I disagree 'it won't last long either way'.

We don't at this stage know what kind of shape and preparedness Haye will be in, but I anticipate he will wear Mark down for at least a handful of rounds before pouncing.
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Redback Rasta wrote:
Totalpac wrote:
Redback Rasta wrote:
You can't wear your heart on your jaw. If Haye starts hitting him clean it won't last long.
My post was in relation to a 1st round KO. I'd think Mark would have more likelyhood of a getting 1st round KO. Personally I don't see Haye coming out after 3 and a bit years out guns blazing.

You're right though it won't last long either way.
I disagree 'it won't last long either way'.

We don't at this stage know what kind of shape and preparedness Haye will be in, but I anticipate he will wear Mark down for at least a handful of rounds before pouncing.
Once Haye realizes he is fighting someone with little t-rex arms, who is talking about going for the "shoulder-dislocation-shot" against a guy who's not even a tall heavy, Haye will decide when to end it. Pretty much whenever he wants to.

Obviously Mark knows he can't fight real heavies.
Last 11 fights;
6"1, Cruiser, Cruiser, 6"1, 6"0, 6"4 (21-29 record), 6"0, Cruiser, 6"0, 6"3 (22-30 record), Cruiser
etc, etc ad infinitum
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Saw a photo of Haye & Demori standing side by side yesterday. Their arms looked to be of a similar length. by the way, Haye has six pins in one of his shoulders.

What do you think Demori's reach is?
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Brute wrote:Saw a photo of Haye & Demori standing side by side yesterday. Their arms looked to be of a similar length. by the way, Haye has six pins in one of his shoulders.

What do you think Demori's reach is?
Haye's reach is listed as 78 inches. Nobody seems to care enough about de Mori to have listed his. But I'd suggest it is a few inches less than Haye's.
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Haye is 1.91m in height while de Mori comes in at 1.88 but admits he will not be able to use his reach, but the great man said this about his reach for the stars:
“There is only one strategy and that’s pressure, I cannot use my reach and dance I must engage,” said de Mori.
“Sport is about skill, but also there is always a way to equal the score with power,”
“Every man can be broken with power,”
De Mori, 33, is hoping his sturdy and widely built frame will present a threat for Haye, 35, who has not fought in almost three and a half years.
Although Haye (26-2, 24 KOs) holds a slight height and reach advantage over the Australian, de Mori doesn’t see this as a disadvantage.
“I am as wide as I am tall,” he explained. “I have never been able to rely on reach but what I find is my power is more effective against smaller boxers,”
So there it is, he is probally a couple of "cms" shorter in the reach.
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Like a Boss wrote:
Brute wrote:Saw a photo of Haye & Demori standing side by side yesterday. Their arms looked to be of a similar length. by the way, Haye has six pins in one of his shoulders.

What do you think Demori's reach is?
Haye's reach is listed as 78 inches. Nobody seems to care enough about de Mori to have listed his. But I'd suggest it is a few inches less than Haye's.
Haye is only an inch taller than Demori. Why would his reach be that much more?
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Beltane wrote:Haye is 1.91m in height while de Mori comes in at 1.88 but admits he will not be able to use his reach, but the great man said this about his reach for the stars:
“There is only one strategy and that’s pressure, I cannot use my reach and dance I must engage,” said de Mori.
“Sport is about skill, but also there is always a way to equal the score with power,”
“Every man can be broken with power,”
De Mori, 33, is hoping his sturdy and widely built frame will present a threat for Haye, 35, who has not fought in almost three and a half years.
Although Haye (26-2, 24 KOs) holds a slight height and reach advantage over the Australian, de Mori doesn’t see this as a disadvantage.
“I am as wide as I am tall,” he explained. “I have never been able to rely on reach but what I find is my power is more effective against smaller boxers,”
So there it is, he is probally a couple of "cms" shorter in the reach.
That is less than 1 inch, Haye is hardly Sonny Liston.
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lowlefthand wrote:
Redback Rasta wrote:
Totalpac wrote:
My post was in relation to a 1st round KO. I'd think Mark would have more likelyhood of a getting 1st round KO. Personally I don't see Haye coming out after 3 and a bit years out guns blazing.

You're right though it won't last long either way.
I disagree 'it won't last long either way'.

We don't at this stage know what kind of shape and preparedness Haye will be in, but I anticipate he will wear Mark down for at least a handful of rounds before pouncing.
Once Haye realizes he is fighting someone with little t-rex arms, who is talking about going for the "shoulder-dislocation-shot" against a guy who's not even a tall heavy, Haye will decide when to end it. Pretty much whenever he wants to.

Obviously Mark knows he can't fight real heavies.
Last 11 fights;
6"1, Cruiser, Cruiser, 6"1, 6"0, 6"4 (21-29 record), 6"0, Cruiser, 6"0, 6"3 (22-30 record), Cruiser
etc, etc ad infinitum
Haye is 6'3"& 210 pounds. Cruiserweight is 200 pounds. What list are you looking at?
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Re: Mark De Mori

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Not everybody's arms are in the exact same proportion to their height.

That's why for the purpose of boxing the fighter's reach is measured.

It would be an absolutely pointless exercise measuring reach if it was a direct proportion of height wouldn't it :OhYes:
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Brute wrote:
lowlefthand wrote:
Redback Rasta wrote:
I disagree 'it won't last long either way'.

We don't at this stage know what kind of shape and preparedness Haye will be in, but I anticipate he will wear Mark down for at least a handful of rounds before pouncing.
Once Haye realizes he is fighting someone with little t-rex arms, who is talking about going for the "shoulder-dislocation-shot" against a guy who's not even a tall heavy, Haye will decide when to end it. Pretty much whenever he wants to.

Obviously Mark knows he can't fight real heavies.
Last 11 fights;
6"1, Cruiser, Cruiser, 6"1, 6"0, 6"4 (21-29 record), 6"0, Cruiser, 6"0, 6"3 (22-30 record), Cruiser
etc, etc ad infinitum
Haye is 6'3"& 210 pounds. Cruiserweight is 200 pounds. What list are you looking at?
De Mori's Boxrec record is what i'm looking at.
That is exactly why he took the Haye fight. He's scared of the giants.
Haye is short enough and light enough for De Mori to take the payday and hope for the best.
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Nice video of Mark telling David Haye how it is.

https://www.facebook.com/SPORTbible/vid ... 913081499/
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convict wrote:Nice video of Mark telling David Haye how it is.

https://www.facebook.com/SPORTbible/vid ... 913081499/
The only danger Haye looked to be in was staying awake :lol:
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Brute wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
Brute wrote:Saw a photo of Haye & Demori standing side by side yesterday. Their arms looked to be of a similar length. by the way, Haye has six pins in one of his shoulders.

What do you think Demori's reach is?
Haye's reach is listed as 78 inches. Nobody seems to care enough about de Mori to have listed his. But I'd suggest it is a few inches less than Haye's.
Haye is only an inch taller than Demori. Why would his reach be that much more?
Because, by his own admission, de Mori has short arms:

"I am always looking to fight in close, where my short arms and my power are a big advantage for me” - Mark de Mori

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/mark-de ... out-315978

:OhYes:
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Like a Boss wrote:
Brute wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
Haye's reach is listed as 78 inches. Nobody seems to care enough about de Mori to have listed his. But I'd suggest it is a few inches less than Haye's.
Haye is only an inch taller than Demori. Why would his reach be that much more?
Because, by his own admission, de Mori has short arms:

"I am always looking to fight in close, where my short arms and my power are a big advantage for me” - Mark de Mori

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/mark-de ... out-315978

:OhYes:
The fact we can't even find De Mori's reach listed anywhere is a sure sign he doesn't want it public? Most heavies on Boxrec list it....
I'm gonna guess 72" until someone from team De Mori tells me otherwise
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lowlefthand wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
Brute wrote:
Haye is only an inch taller than Demori. Why would his reach be that much more?
Because, by his own admission, de Mori has short arms:

"I am always looking to fight in close, where my short arms and my power are a big advantage for me” - Mark de Mori

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/mark-de ... out-315978

:OhYes:
The fact we can't even find De Mori's reach listed anywhere is a sure sign he doesn't want it public? Most heavies on Boxrec list it....
I'm gonna guess 72" until someone from team De Mori tells me otherwise
I've stood side by side with de Mori, I think you are pretty close to the reach of 72 but it may be even lower. Mark has wide back & shoulders which seem to deceptively give him a longer reach. IMO from the youtube videos of his fights this seems to be case.
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Tall men usually have a reach greater than their height. Demori is 6'2"tall, reach is wing tip to wing tip. How would broad shoulders shorten his reaCH?
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de Mori has short arms. Says so himself. Time to move on.
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Brute wrote:Tall men usually have a reach greater than their height. Demori is 6'2"tall, reach is wing tip to wing tip. How would broad shoulders shorten his reaCH?
Sorry Brute I should have worded my post better, I meant because reach factors in the width of the back and shoulders as well, a fighter with short arms but wide shoulders may have a deceptively longer reach then what people think. :TU:
And after watching the videos of Marks fights you can see his jab works against taller opponents as a jab not just as a distance finder(As we see with short arm fighters). Will this fool Haye? I guess we will have to find out on Jan 16th.
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Inactivity may hurt Haye. Three and a half years without a fight is not good preparation.
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lowlefthand wrote:
Like a Boss wrote:
Brute wrote:
Haye is only an inch taller than Demori. Why would his reach be that much more?
Because, by his own admission, de Mori has short arms:

"I am always looking to fight in close, where my short arms and my power are a big advantage for me” - Mark de Mori

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/mark-de ... out-315978

:OhYes:
The fact we can't even find De Mori's reach listed anywhere is a sure sign he doesn't want it public? Most heavies on Boxrec list it....
I'm gonna guess 72" until someone from team De Mori tells me otherwise
Not many Australian heavyweights have their reach listed. Haye is only one inch taller than Demori.
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