I have to say, this was a good boxing year

Chepppaaa
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I have to say, this was a good boxing year

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big fights like canelo-cotto happened, big fights like ggg-canelo & kovalev-stevenson/ward are on the horizon
the heavyweights showcased class, josh, wilder, parker and ortiz are the real deal.
lower weights had great fights.
overall, realy good boxing year.

but to me, one thing is clear. 2016 will be one of the best, if not the best year in boxing in a long long time.
i expect wilder, josh or ortiz having a meeting.
i truly expect ggg-canelo happening. kovalev vs ward is 70 %, but hope for the best. kovalev-stevenson would be better anyway.
than usyk is climbing the ranks and a fight against lebedev or drozd would be huge. maybe glowacki-huck II :OhYes:
also, a must is that someting between vasyl, cruz and rigo will happen, these guys are elite, they have to meet, now is the time.
also gonzales estrada 2 would be big time :bag:

i expect a lot from 2016, hope promoters dont make stupid descisions.
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I haven't got any complaints, well I normally do :D but in general things are on the up and up.
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I was very pleased with 2015.Hoping 2016 is even better. :TU:
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all year boxrec had threads about how boxing sucks these days and
all these fights are mismatches and fury, cotto, etc, are going to get
destroyed, bla bla, and all next year boxrec will get the same threads
as in past years. the best fights will be the fights nobody expected to
be good and many of the fights everybody expects to be good won't
live up to expectations, but that's boxing. this is a great era as far as
being able to watch fights live and on video later from all over the world
and as long as there is boxing there will be good fights happening
somewhere. at the top level next year will have some big unification
fights and some new contenders arriving. generally things get a little
slower over the summers.
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I'd have to agree. Good free boxing on the regular tv is the best
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The front runner for 2106 is Ward v Kovalev.
If Ward and Kovalev make it through relatively unhinged to fight time by May and it's all above board legit fare and 100% ... it's a massive fight.
The pound for pound rankings at the high level will change because of it.
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sucracristo wrote:all year boxrec had threads about how boxing sucks these days and
all these fights are mismatches and fury, cotto, etc, are going to get
destroyed, bla bla, and all next year boxrec will get the same threads
as in past years. the best fights will be the fights nobody expected to
be good and many of the fights everybody expects to be good won't
live up to expectations, but that's boxing. this is a great era as far as
being able to watch fights live and on video later from all over the world
and as long as there is boxing there will be good fights happening
somewhere. at the top level next year will have some big unification
fights and some new contenders arriving. generally things get a little
slower over the summers.

absolutly right.what i find so great now, is that we have an elite everywhere.

at lower weights gonzales, inoue rigo

in the middle it seem that spence, crawford etc will turn out at best

than the light heavyweights never looked better with the russians and ward

i mean and all elite boxers lined up, high in the rank, the fight just have to be made and promoted in a aggressiv way. imagine kovalev vs bertebiev or ggg-canelo, that would be action packed boxing, boxing would gain new fans.
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Let's not get crazy here, now. 2015 was the year of the mismatch and spotlight fights. I can't think of a division in boxing that had their top two ranked fighters square off (don't say Manny/Floyd dance-off). Anyone satisfied with that garbage they served up, should lose their boxing badge that opens the doors in here.

But, if 2015 was the used as the trailer for battles upcoming in 2016, then i'm ok with it. My biggest fear is that this is the new landscape in boxing. Al Haymon signing all of these boxers and keeping them all safe and sound while building each of their brands with easy showcase fights, nationally televised. Not sure if anyone has taken a glance at the schedule for 2016 recently but it's empty and none of the fights discussed in these posts are signed and sealed.

Instead, we are seeing a popular fighter vs. TBA on a certain date. That's not a good sign. We used to only see that with Floyd and Manny...now everyone is booking a date before a foe. I'm pessimistic for 2016 but want to be wrong.
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caldo2025 wrote:Let's not get crazy here, now. 2015 was the year of the mismatch and spotlight fights. I can't think of a division in boxing that had their top two ranked fighters square off (don't say Manny/Floyd dance-off). Anyone satisfied with that garbage they served up, should lose their boxing badge that opens the doors in here.

But, if 2015 was the used as the trailer for battles upcoming in 2016, then i'm ok with it. My biggest fear is that this is the new landscape in boxing. Al Haymon signing all of these boxers and keeping them all safe and sound while building each of their brands with easy showcase fights, nationally televised. Not sure if anyone has taken a glance at the schedule for 2016 recently but it's empty and none of the fights discussed in these posts are signed and sealed.

Instead, we are seeing a popular fighter vs. TBA on a certain date. That's not a good sign. We used to only see that with Floyd and Manny...now everyone is booking a date before a foe. I'm pessimistic for 2016 but want to be wrong.

overall 2015 was better than the last 3-4 years to me.

but you are right, haymon is not good for boxing, i hate his tactics....i hate elite boxers taking 1000 years to fight each other.

boxing is not just usa n haymon. russia puts on good cards, russian cw are top of the top. uk got some quality. haymon will never be like ufc, the 1 ruler
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was a great year for British fighters , one of the best on memory :TU:
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caldo2025 wrote:Al Haymon signing all of these boxers and keeping them all safe and sound
like quillin-jacobs? yup, that was some cherry picking right there.
chavez jr getting his ass handed to him by fonfara? again, haymon coddling his guys.
both dirrel's seem coddled lately, too...
that bute-degale fight was certainly a snoozer cake walk.
no way porter-broner was going to be a competitive matchup.
mattysse-postol was another cherry pick for the haymon fighters.
russel jr vs gonzalez was a joke of a matchup and fight.
peterson-garcia, what a snoozefest mismatch.
we could go on and on, here. none of these haymon fighters were put in competitive matches in 2015.
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sucracristo wrote:
caldo2025 wrote:Al Haymon signing all of these boxers and keeping them all safe and sound
like quillin-jacobs? yup, that was some cherry picking right there.
chavez jr getting his ass handed to him by fonfara? again, haymon coddling his guys.
both dirrel's seem coddled lately, too...
that bute-degale fight was certainly a snoozer cake walk.
no way porter-broner was going to be a competitive matchup.
mattysse-postol was another cherry pick for the haymon fighters.
russel jr vs gonzalez was a joke of a matchup and fight.
peterson-garcia, what a snoozefest mismatch.
we could go on and on, here. none of these haymon fighters were put in competitive matches in 2015.

6 years of waiting from mayweather. preventing 2 top 10 atg goin at it in prime, thats why so many people hate haymon and floyd. end of the story-

kovalev-stevenson, i am waiting. at the end who cares about b level match up fights like postol-mattyhsse. fans wants the elite face the elite, if possible during prime. de la hoya stands for this, arum half/half, haymon not, no.
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Chepppaaa wrote:fans wants the elite face the elite,
I think fans really want entertaining fights, if that happens to be elite fighters even better.
Huck vs Glowacki, I wouldn't call that elite vs elite but cracking entertainment.
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ttornado wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:fans wants the elite face the elite,
I think fans really want entertaining fights, if that happens to be elite fighters even better.
Huck vs Glowacki, I wouldn't call that elite vs elite but cracking entertainment.

sure fans want entertainmant, action, no matter if a b or c level match ups. but the best is a, morales-barrera, de la hoya-mosley.....elite vs elite, prime vs prime

and guys like haymon seem more to prevent those match ups, than stand strong behind to make big match ups.
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Evander wrote:The front runner for 2106 is Ward v Kovalev.
If Ward and Kovalev make it through relatively unhinged to fight time by May and it's all above board legit fare and 100% ... it's a massive fight.
The pound for pound rankings at the high level will change because of it.
Wow, I really hope we don't have to wait that long :(
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Chepppaaa wrote:who cares about b level match up fights like postol-mattyhsse.
you called that a b level matchup before the fight, and you didn't think anybody
wanted to see that one or watched it or was entertained by it?

has shumenov been coddled by haymon? was santa cruz-mares a b-level matchup or fight?
how about vanes-charlo? you really think the reason why floyd-pac didn't happen all these
years was because haymon was telling floyd not to fight him? if haymon has a guy who
wants a fight, haymon is going to get the guy the fight. he can only make the fights his
guys are willing to take. i'm no haymon fan, but haymon's fighters were in at least as many
risky and entertaining matchups as anyone else in the sport has helped to make. when i look
back on 2015, a lot of those fights involved his fighters. wilder-povetkin in the spring will be
a top level heavy matchup that people are looking forward to. people will watch the fury-wlad
rematch, and will be looking forward to fury-wilder. i still think kovalev-stevenson will be made.
there are so many top matchups at 140-147 that can be made, it's crazy. we should see GGG
unify the division next year. some people just like to complain all the time and boo and when you
start listing the fights that happened they start making stupid comments about how there were
too many foreigners involved in those, or other fights were not expected to be good fights beforehand
so they don't count, or when the big matchups are finally made they complain that they didn't live
up to the hype. lee-quillin turned out to be a better scrap than people predicted, and mattysse-provo
lived up to high expectations. 2015 had lots of good fights and matchups, including the dozen or so
haymon fights i mentioned in 2 posts
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Chepppaaa wrote:
and guys like haymon seem more to prevent those match ups,.
While I can agree with your sentiment, the fighters themselves are being paid well and are happy to take the easier fights.
Why is Wilder not talking about fighting Povetkin and making a fight that needs to happen.
Haymon guided Wilder to a HW title, and is now protecting him from testing fights.
Fighters such as Wilder need to step up and push for the fights and not hide behind Uncle Al.
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ttornado wrote:
Chepppaaa wrote:
and guys like haymon seem more to prevent those match ups,.
While I can agree with your sentiment, the fighters themselves are being paid well and are happy to take the easier fights.
Why is Wilder not talking about fighting Povetkin and making a fight that needs to happen.
Haymon guided Wilder to a HW title, and is now protecting him from testing fights.
Fighters such as Wilder need to step up and push for the fights and not hide behind Uncle Al.

actualy wilder was talking the other day in an interview, that he wanted poetkin and he tried to make a deal, but povetkins team said, they werent ready.
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Chepppaaa wrote:
actualy wilder was talking the other day in an interview, that he wanted poetkin and he tried to make a deal, but povetkins team said, they werent ready.
So Haymon has been trying to make Wilder vs Povetkin? I'm not so sure.
But if what you just said is true that underminds your other argument against Haymon in this thread.
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ttornado wrote:Why is Wilder not talking about fighting Povetkin and making a fight that needs to happen.
povetkin is mandatory challenger for wilder's WBC title but povetkin just fought and
said he wouldn't be ready to fight wilder until the spring, which is why wilder
is fighting in january. if you haven't heard about wilder fighting povetkin, you
haven't been listening. they are fighting in the spring when povetkin is ready.
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sucracristo wrote:
povetkin is mandatory challenger for wilder's WBC title but povetkin...
Yes, but it seems to of been dragged out and used as an excuse for Wilder to fight lowly ranked opponents without even having the balls to give them a full training camp. Not a good look for a heavyweight 'champion'.
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ttornado wrote:
sucracristo wrote:
povetkin is mandatory challenger for wilder's WBC title but povetkin...
Yes, but it seems to of been dragged out and used as an excuse for Wilder to fight lowly ranked opponents without even having the balls to give them a full training camp. Not a good look for a heavyweight 'champion'.
Wilder is no more the World's HW Champion than Jacobs and Saunders are World's MW Champions. They are impostors.
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ortiz won impressiv, josh wins impressiv, wilder keeps winning impressiv.

these 3 will certainly meet 2016 and it will be epic. those 3 are top.
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was some cracking fights this year. But the big fights that were made nearly all of them failed to live up to the hype. Lets hope 2016 brings entertainment with the big fights.
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Post by iamasadlittleboy »

At the higher and lower weights its been interesting, from Lightweight to Light Heavyweight things have been a bit crap.

Super Featherweight and Cruiserweight have been particularly good . Super Flyweight wasn't too far behind. Nice to see HBO finally getting on board with Gonzalez and the little men revolution.

Also been good to see PBC go cosmopolitan with Poland vs Germany, Japan vs Japan, Japan vs UK, etc. Hopefully that continues
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