"Firm offer" from K2 to BJS

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Tarkus wrote:Having a good inside game could be useful if you can get inside, but thats a big if.

I dont agree with the power argument. It was a very popular idea before the Lemieux fight, but I dont think trying to push GGG on a backfoot is a winnable strategy. At least I dont see fighter today that could do it. I guess Lemieux was the best and we saw what happened. You cant deter GGG with power. You need to be smart with him, chess player, mover, like BJS. And even then it is not a given you can beat him. The pressure he put you under is indeed immense. Lara is another interesting guy. But actually I have more faith in BJS to deal with the pressure then Lara.
Lemieux was a puss.

There is no clear counter style for Golovkin, but Saunders at 12 rounds maximum capacity is a legitimate threat.
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Tarkus wrote:
Aaronide_ger wrote: That is not the style to beat Golovkin, In order to beat Golovkin you need to have power that he respects, and better ability to fight on the inside.

The pressure Golovkin applies to all these move and hit boxers is immense, eventually he will break them down and destroy them all of these guys have no chance to beat him.
Having a good inside game could be useful if you can get inside, but thats a big if.

I dont agree with the power argument. It was a very popular idea before the Lemieux fight, but I dont think trying to push GGG on a backfoot is a winnable strategy. At least I dont see fighter today that could do it. I guess Lemieux was the best and we saw what happened. You cant deter GGG with power. You need to be smart with him, chess player, mover, like BJS. And even then it is not a given you can beat him. The pressure he put you under is indeed immense. Lara is another interesting guy. But actually I have more faith in BJS to deal with the pressure then Lara.
I am not saying u have to get him on the backfoot to beat him im saying whatever style you use you MUST have power to make tripleG respect it.. otherwise he wont and batter you like he did to Monroe,Murray and Geale..

Good power with a great inside game is the way.. and yes there is currently NO FIGHTER like this at the moment at the middleweight division, fighting Golovkin from the outside is VERY VERY VERY hard.. I think you understand that.. he also has great boxing skills, he is very confortable with his jab its just so difficult to outbox a guy like this from the outside.. Thats my opinion anyway.
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Re: "Firm offer" from K2 to BJS

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Boxerbeetle wrote:
ikorolev wrote:
clopixolacuphase wrote:To Ikoralev:

In terms of the MW division he's definitely one of the best fighters though isn't he? GGG is head and shoulders the best and I've argued for ages it's pointless him sticking around at the weight because there are no real challenges, but if he's going to stay there then this is exactly the sort of fight he should be having. You've always been a passionate defender of Golovkin continuing to seek to unify so I just thought you'd be more excited about it, that's all. I think GGG would beat Jacobs (who has shown chin issues) much faster. Only Canelo is better. BJS is number 3 in the division for me
I think Lemieux and Eubank Jr are better. Possibly a couple more.

However, as BJS got the belt, he is #2 best option for GGG.
Why would you think Eubank Jr is better, when Saunders beat him 2 fights ago?
Saunders BARELY beat him 2 fights ago having to use excessive clinching in the second half of the fight. Eubank lost the fight in its first half because he was too theatrical (his father's influence?) instead of just letting his hands go. I believe he widely won the second half of the fight.

Jr got a good lesson and dropped the theater in his next two fights, so he would have no problem beating BJS if they fought again.
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Team Saunders response to the offer.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0emLPEzJ220
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digzee wrote:Team Saunders response to the offer.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0emLPEzJ220
There is no response yet, according to that video ...
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ikorolev wrote:
digzee wrote:Team Saunders response to the offer.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0emLPEzJ220
There is no response yet, according to that video ...
He will be fighting in March then if they did get a big enough offer they can make the fight, its possible for it to happen in a stadium over here, which I would go to I'd love to see GGG. They don't seem keen though.
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Why can bjs and canelo just hurry up and face ggg so we can all see if he is as great as he can be? I think he deserves a shot at the undisputed title more than most. Given the opportunity i think ggg becomes undisputed champ and sees off all challengers for at least a good few years
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scottearley123456 wrote:ggg becomes undisputed champ and sees off all challengers for at least a good few years
he turns 34 in 3 months, and won't unify all the titles until at least september, so not sure
what "at least a few good years" means. a few to me means at least 3...
in this era just to unify the 5 biggest titles is a big accomplishment, hall of fame worthy.
if he had even one or two years holding them together that would be crazy.
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Re: "Firm offer" from K2 to BJS

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A few sources reported about a tweet by BJS:

http://www.worldboxingnews.net/2016/01/ ... oper-money?
billyjoesaunders ✔ @bjsaunders_
@GGGBoxing if you want to fight offer some proper money to @allegedly_tv and @djk256 ! Put it up and we fight simple
3:18 PM - 5 Jan 2016
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