Golovkin offered BJS $3.2m [OFFICIAL]

[ikorolev]

How can you be so sure??

because of everything i said in the post before that.
worst work rate for a titlist in the sport behind ishe smith, who would be competitive
with saunders in both skill and inducing narcolepsy. he isn't a top guy and he is BORING.
his only value is that title. canelo and cotto would also beat him but it would be for
the same money GGG is offering and less deadly so he would denifitely take those
fights. the reason he wants 3x what he can make vs anyone but cotto or canelo is
because knows he won't do any better than any other ggg opponent and his only
value is that title.

Ok, good backing and I guess we're going to have to see what a fight like these types will bring. I'm just hoping to see GGG get one of these top dudes so we can truly assess him and have no more doubts as to whether or not he is capable of everything we believe he is.

What top dudes? As soon as GGG beats Canelo, Saul will become a blown up midget. Nobody considers BJS an A fighter either. Golovkin just needs to collect all belts and then, immediately or after a couple decent defenses (Eubank Jr and Jacobs come to mind) move up to beat DeGale/Jack/Chudinov type of opponents.

[Undefeated49-0]

What top dudes? As soon as GGG beats Canelo, Saul will become a blown up midget. Nobody considers BJS an A fighter either. Golovkin just needs to collect all belts and then, immediately or after a couple decent defenses (Eubank Jr and Jacobs come to mind) move up to beat DeGale/Jack/Chudinov type of opponents.

Canelo isn't a MW, neither was Lemieux and I'm saying that right now not after they fight. If you think those guys are the top MWs then there's nothing more left to say. Yes Saul is the Champ there due to beating a smaller Cotto but he's not a natural MW.

[jujigatame]

Canelo isn't a MW? He's basically the same size as Golovkin. Maybe an inch or two shorter but significantly thicker.

[koolkc107]

I have to chime in here and say that, for once, I agree with the lil g knobslobbers.

If Saunders turns down that offer, it's a duck plain and simple.

There are no promotional barriers, no exclusive network contract issues, absolutely
nothing preventing BJ from taking his biggest career payday.

He is not anyone's A side and he needs to take the money and stay in his lane or
beat someone really elite and create his own.

Andy Lee is a good victory, not a great one.

It wouldn't be his biggest payday though, he can have the Eubank rematch more or less whenever he wants it for just as much money.

Fight Golovkin, without his trainer and get beat, with few options left afterwards, or fight Eubank again for the same money, if he loses he gets a rematch for another big payday and if he wins he carries on making good money and can then take the Golovkin fight when he's a bigger name and more experienced. Fairly simple decision to me.

No way he can get that same money for Eubanks Jr.

But if you wanna believe that be my guest...

[expe]

I have to chime in here and say that, for once, I agree with the lil g knobslobbers.

If Saunders turns down that offer, it's a duck plain and simple.

There are no promotional barriers, no exclusive network contract issues, absolutely
nothing preventing BJ from taking his biggest career payday.

He is not anyone's A side and he needs to take the money and stay in his lane or
beat someone really elite and create his own.

Andy Lee is a good victory, not a great one.

It wouldn't be his biggest payday though, he can have the Eubank rematch more or less whenever he wants it for just as much money.

Fight Golovkin, without his trainer and get beat, with few options left afterwards, or fight Eubank again for the same money, if he loses he gets a rematch for another big payday and if he wins he carries on making good money and can then take the Golovkin fight when he's a bigger name and more experienced. Fairly simple decision to me.

No way he can get that same money for Eubanks Jr.

But if you wanna believe that be my guest...

He signed to fight Eubank again last summer and would have got well over a million then if Eubank had agreed his end of the deal. Now he has a world title to put on the line, allegedly are now able to do PPV and Eubank has had some massive publicity in the last two months fighting O'Sullivan and his Dad being on I'm a Celebrity with 10m watching every night for 3 weeks. Stick the fight in a stadium, they'll sell 30,000+ and with the PPV money he'll make a couple of million from the fight no problem.

[Impractical Poster]

Apparently, Billy Saunders sells duck calls.... Go figure.

http://www.billsaunderscalls.com/

[Butterbean]

Ok, good backing and I guess we're going to have to see what a fight like these types will bring. I'm just hoping to see GGG get one of these top dudes so we can truly assess him and have no more doubts as to whether or not he is capable of everything we believe he is.

what top dudes ?

[Butterbean]

What top dudes? As soon as GGG beats Canelo, Saul will become a blown up midget. Nobody considers BJS an A fighter either. Golovkin just needs to collect all belts and then, immediately or after a couple decent defenses (Eubank Jr and Jacobs come to mind) move up to beat DeGale/Jack/Chudinov type of opponents.

Canelo isn't a MW, neither was Lemieux and I'm saying that right now not after they fight. If you think those guys are the top MWs then there's nothing more left to say. Yes Saul is the Champ there due to beating a smaller Cotto but he's not a natural MW.

what top dudes ?

[Shirow]

I have to chime in here and say that, for once, I agree with the lil g knobslobbers.

If Saunders turns down that offer, it's a duck plain and simple.

There are no promotional barriers, no exclusive network contract issues, absolutely
nothing preventing BJ from taking his biggest career payday.

He is not anyone's A side and he needs to take the money and stay in his lane or
beat someone really elite and create his own.

Andy Lee is a good victory, not a great one.

It wouldn't be his biggest payday though, he can have the Eubank rematch more or less whenever he wants it for just as much money.

Fight Golovkin, without his trainer and get beat, with few options left afterwards, or fight Eubank again for the same money, if he loses he gets a rematch for another big payday and if he wins he carries on making good money and can then take the Golovkin fight when he's a bigger name and more experienced. Fairly simple decision to me.

Eubank has proved nothing at anything close to world level so Saunders could drop back down to his level for a grudge rematch after losing to GGG but he'll never get to fight GGG if he loses to Eubank. Even if he loses that rematch it could set up a rubber match.

A prizefighter who doesn't have a big fanbase happy to pay to watch them defend a title against cupcakes should be advised to take the huge payday on offer at the highest level and make the best of it. Fights at a lower level will still be available afterwards and if he wins he has won the lottery.

Also it seems more now that recently that when you get beaten by a top guy you remain an opponent for other top guys - see Guerrero (Mayweather then Thurman then Garcia) or Paul Smith (Abraham, Abraham II, Ward) or even Geale (GGG, then Cotto)

[koolkc107]

It wouldn't be his biggest payday though, he can have the Eubank rematch more or less whenever he wants it for just as much money.

Fight Golovkin, without his trainer and get beat, with few options left afterwards, or fight Eubank again for the same money, if he loses he gets a rematch for another big payday and if he wins he carries on making good money and can then take the Golovkin fight when he's a bigger name and more experienced. Fairly simple decision to me.

No way he can get that same money for Eubanks Jr.

But if you wanna believe that be my guest...

He signed to fight Eubank again last summer and would have got well over a million then if Eubank had agreed his end of the deal. Now he has a world title to put on the line, allegedly are now able to do PPV and Eubank has had some massive publicity in the last two months fighting O'Sullivan and his Dad being on I'm a Celebrity with 10m watching every night for 3 weeks. Stick the fight in a stadium, they'll sell 30,000+ and with the PPV money he'll make a couple of million from the fight no problem.

Eubanks would be the A-side there, belt or no belt. And neither guy is going to command the payday that K2 just offered.

I also don't buy that Saunders vs Eubanks II as a stand alone fight does well.

The first was an undercard fight and this one seems to fit that mold as well.
It isn't like the rematch promises fireworks based on what we saw previously....

[Evander]

Long shot maybe

For GGG if it happens in England is a big deal, this fight buys him time.

[rd350lc]

The worry for me is that it may develop into a Khan/FMJ scenario and if that sort of money is genuinly on the table he'd be a fool not to take it. I also reckon he could do his stock some good as he would do ok against GGG and take him some rounds , BJS is obviously not the number 1 middleweight so no biggie in losing to him .

[ikorolev]

Interesting data on BJS net worth and income in previous years:

http://www.celebritypetal.com/billy-joe ... rth-boxer/

Basically, BJS is being offered his net worth times 6.

[expe]

Interesting data on BJS net worth and income in previous years:

http://www.celebritypetal.com/billy-joe ... rth-boxer/

Basically, BJS is being offered his net worth times 6.

Might be interesting if any of it was actually true.

[Cyclops]

The return of Pirog (with a couple of half decent wins) should at least provide some intrigue to the MW division, no?

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/should- ... try-pirog/

Pirog, prior to his hiatus due to injury, I seem to recall was the danger man at 160 before Golovkin's rise. Should he put together a couple of wins I can't see a better fight.

Or is that just for us hardcore fans?

[Nightmare Roy]

The return of Pirog (with a couple of half decent wins) should at least provide some intrigue to the MW division, no?

http://www.boxingnewsonline.net/should- ... try-pirog/

Pirog, prior to his hiatus due to injury, I seem to recall was the danger man at 160 before Golovkin's rise. Should he put together a couple of wins I can't see a better fight.

Or is that just for us hardcore fans?

Those figures are nonsense, he got paid half a million dollars in step a side money alone when Lee fought Quillen.

[5burowz]

People are afraid of GGG. This is nothing new.

[rd350lc]

People are afraid of GGG. This is nothing new.

and with good reason, only problem is that he is going to run out of opponants at middleweight .No shame in losing to him it ain't going to damage your reputation so why not give it a go if you are genuinely being offered top dollar .

[caldo2025]

Give the kid a break already. He just won the damn belt a couple months ago so why can't he get a couple soft defenses before having to take on the top boxers? Everyone else gets to take a few victory laps in this day and age in boxing unfortunately so why can't BJS? Plus, after everyone gets their cut of $3.2m (Promoter, Manager, Team, Family, etc), we aren't talking about life changing money here. I think BJS was referring to a larger mountain of money in his earlier quotes.

[ikorolev]

Kim's take on the situation:

http://ucnlive.com/time-to-call-their-bluffs

[Crease]

During trash-talking with Eubank Jr last year, Saunders said that Golovkin would KO them both on the same night... Without breaking a sweat... Not quite the attitude of someone who is desperately eager to get in to the ring with 3 G.

[jockpunk]

Give the kid a break already. He just won the damn belt a couple months ago so why can't he get a couple soft defenses before having to take on the top boxers? Everyone else gets to take a few victory laps in this day and age in boxing unfortunately so why can't BJS? Plus, after everyone gets their cut of $3.2m (Promoter, Manager, Team, Family, etc), we aren't talking about life changing money here. I think BJS was referring to a larger mountain of money in his earlier quotes.

As much as I want GGG to unify the belts, I can't help but feel bad for BJS. Dude just won his first belt and instead of being able to enjoy it for a bit, he is being boxed into a corner where he is being made to look like a b1tch for not taking a fight he not only knows he can't win, but will cause him to take a severe beating in doing while doing so.

[ikorolev]

Give the kid a break already. He just won the damn belt a couple months ago so why can't he get a couple soft defenses before having to take on the top boxers? Everyone else gets to take a few victory laps in this day and age in boxing unfortunately so why can't BJS? Plus, after everyone gets their cut of $3.2m (Promoter, Manager, Team, Family, etc), we aren't talking about life changing money here. I think BJS was referring to a larger mountain of money in his earlier quotes.

As much as I want GGG to unify the belts, I can't help but feel bad for BJS. Dude just won his first belt and instead of being able to enjoy it for a bit, he is being boxed into a corner where he is being made to look like a b1tch for not taking a fight he not only knows he can't win, but will cause him to take a severe beating in doing while doing so.

When B level champions like Lee, Saunders, Barker, Soliman, Quillin, etc. take their victory laps, they are losing and the "vicious circle" continues until an A level fighter with a big pair gets a belt and dares to fight his peers.

Unfortunately, current MW champions beside Golovkin lack both skills and balls, so we have to watch them passing their belts to next B level guys.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

So Golovkin is going to make much more against BJS than he did against Lemieux?

Why?
Where?
How?

Who is paying that amount of money to see GGG?
HBO's recent push to create the next PPV star is pathetic.

[ikorolev]

So Golovkin is going to make much more against BJS than he did against Lemieux?

Why?
Where?
How?

Who is paying that amount of money to see GGG?
HBO's recent push to create the next PPV star is pathetic.

I bet Golovkin takes a pay cut in order to buy a belt from Saunders. Also, HBO may be investing into that belt in order for Canelo vs Golovkin fight to be for undisputed championship which would help promotion.