Which Brit has had most failed attempts at a world title?

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George Groves has had 3 shots already! He is looking to top this list soon I reckon
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olij999 wrote:PS - on a sort-of-related note, which British fighter lost challenges for Area, British, Commonwealth, European and world titles (one of the 4 major sanctioning bodies for the world title), and never won a major title?
One small correction to my question - for "lost", read "did not succeed", as one of his 3 EBU challenges was a draw. And he was around in the 1980s to 1990s, if that helps.
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Clinton Woods won on his 4th attempt.

Good question - I don't think that the question applies to those who won and lost various world title fights but more who made the highest number of unsuccessful attempts.
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ThereByTheGrace wrote:Think Michael Brodie had 4 failed attempts
I had to check but Brodie made 3 failed attempts
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bripez wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Think Michael Brodie had 4 failed attempts
I had to check but Brodie made 3 failed attempts
Jorrin, Chi x2 and Harrison?
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J wrote:BILLY SCHWER?
Just checked this one as well (I am bored in work) and Billy did make 4 attempts for IBF, WBC, WBU and IBO (do they all count?)
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expe wrote:
bripez wrote:
ThereByTheGrace wrote:Think Michael Brodie had 4 failed attempts
I had to check but Brodie made 3 failed attempts
Jorrin, Chi x2 and Harrison?
Ok, I agree !

The first Chi fight was a draw (in my defence I am using my phone when the boss isn't looking!).
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alan rudkin, mickey cantwell and billy hardy all had 3 cracks each
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olij999 wrote:PS - on a sort-of-related note, which British fighter lost challenges for Area, British, Commonwealth, European and world titles (one of the 4 major sanctioning bodies for the world title), and never won a major title?
Bump for this one.

Other than the names already mentioned I am struggling ..
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Sorry, Jersey Joe Walcott, 5. No love for this fact?
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reggaereggae wrote:Sorry, Jersey Joe Walcott, 5. No love for this fact?
Plenty of love for it (although I am not sure you were first to it in this thread :TU: )!
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bripez wrote:Clinton Woods won on his 4th attempt.

Good question - I don't think that the question applies to those who won and lost various world title fights but more who made the highest number of unsuccessful attempts.
yes but had 4 unsuccesful attempts overall against jones, johnson x2 and cloud.
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bripez wrote:
olij999 wrote:PS - on a sort-of-related note, which British fighter lost challenges for Area, British, Commonwealth, European and world titles (one of the 4 major sanctioning bodies for the world title), and never won a major title?
Bump for this one.

Other than the names already mentioned I am struggling ..
OK - answer is Danny Porter - see http://boxrec.com/boxer/3445 - one Area shot, one British, three Commonwealth, three EBU, one WBO. To be fair to him, he does not deserve to have this accolade - I recall he was utterly robbed in the second EBU challenge.
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On the international front, another 6 and another 5:

6 - Manuel Medina – amid the title reigns, he lost challenges to John-John Molina, Tom Johnson, Naseem Hamed, Luisito Espinosa, Juan Manuel Marquez and Cassius Baloyi

5 - Roberto Duran – lost challenges to Benitez, Hagler, Hearns, Leonard III and Joppy
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bripez wrote:
J wrote:BILLY SCHWER?
Just checked this one as well (I am bored in work) and Billy did make 4 attempts for IBF, WBC, WBU and IBO (do they all count?)
nah just the 2 for billy
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olij999 wrote:
bripez wrote:
olij999 wrote:PS - on a sort-of-related note, which British fighter lost challenges for Area, British, Commonwealth, European and world titles (one of the 4 major sanctioning bodies for the world title), and never won a major title?
Bump for this one.

Other than the names already mentioned I am struggling ..
OK - answer is Danny Porter - see http://boxrec.com/boxer/3445 - one Area shot, one British, three Commonwealth, three EBU, one WBO. To be fair to him, he does not deserve to have this accolade - I recall he was utterly robbed in the second EBU challenge.
Never would of got that great question
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ola afolobi ( british ? ) had 3 cracks at huck and lost an interim to ramirez
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we counting ireland ? if so wayne mccullough had 5 failed attempts against hamed, morales, harrison and larios x2
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Don't forget Zaragoza
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orbtastic wrote:Don't forget Zaragoza
think he lost his title in that one so wasnt a failed attempt
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littlepug wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Don't forget Zaragoza
think he lost his title in that one so wasnt a failed attempt
No, think that was a challenge for the WBC super-bantam, after he relinquished his WBC bantam. So that would be 6.
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olij999 wrote:
littlepug wrote:
orbtastic wrote:Don't forget Zaragoza
think he lost his title in that one so wasnt a failed attempt
No, think that was a challenge for the WBC super-bantam, after he relinquished his WBC bantam. So that would be 6.
ah yes i stand corrected said the man in the orthepedic shoes :TU:
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Think malignaggi has had 5 failed attempts aswell!
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Right here goes

Ted 'kid' Lewis vs

Lockport Jimmy Duffy lost NWS10
Mike Gibbons Lost NWS10
Jack Britton Lost pts12
Jack Britton Drew pts12
Jack Britton Lost NWS8
Mike O'Dowd Lost NWS10
Jack Britton Lost pts15
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Colin Jones 3 attempts
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