Biggest duck ever? Wilder will likely vacate title, unwilling to fight his mandatory Povetkin

[caldo2025]

There's NO way Wilder would vacate this title. He's one champion that cherishes the belt and it's significance more than anyone. Why would he do something like this over an overrated punching bag like Povetkin? This is a non issue. Next

[Batley18]

Although Wilder doesn't seem interested in fighting anyone creditable, I would be shocked if he vacated.

[punchoutsb]

There's NO way Wilder would vacate this title. He's one champion that cherishes the belt and it's significance more than anyone. Why would he do something like this over an overrated punching bag like Povetkin? This is a non issue. Next

I doubt he'll vacate either, as he really does cherish that belt.

He also cherishes his undefeated career which answers why he may do it over an "overrated punching bag like Povetkin".

[caldo2025]

There's NO way Wilder would vacate this title. He's one champion that cherishes the belt and it's significance more than anyone. Why would he do something like this over an overrated punching bag like Povetkin? This is a non issue. Next

I doubt he'll vacate either, as he really does cherish that belt.

He also cherishes his undefeated career which answers why he may do it over an "overrated punching bag like Povetkin".

Povetkin just doesn't impress me at all. I don't even see why he's in the conversation for a title shot anyway. To me, it seems like this guys is nothing but clutter in the way of making better fights within the division.

Plus, Wilder's belt around his waist makes him more money in every fight he gets in the ring with it. World Champions, on average, make 20-40% more money in Boxing. Wilder's name isn't strong enough to carry him yet. He's on his way though.

[punchoutsb]

There's NO way Wilder would vacate this title. He's one champion that cherishes the belt and it's significance more than anyone. Why would he do something like this over an overrated punching bag like Povetkin? This is a non issue. Next

I doubt he'll vacate either, as he really does cherish that belt.

He also cherishes his undefeated career which answers why he may do it over an "overrated punching bag like Povetkin".

Povetkin just doesn't impress me at all. I don't even see why he's in the conversation for a title shot anyway. To me, it seems like this guys is nothing but clutter in the way of making better fights within the division.

Plus, Wilder's belt around his waist makes him more money in every fight he gets in the ring with it. World Champions, on average, make 20-40% more money in Boxing. Wilder's name isn't strong enough to carry him yet. He's on his way though.

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

[caldo2025]

I doubt he'll vacate either, as he really does cherish that belt.

He also cherishes his undefeated career which answers why he may do it over an "overrated punching bag like Povetkin".

Povetkin just doesn't impress me at all. I don't even see why he's in the conversation for a title shot anyway. To me, it seems like this guys is nothing but clutter in the way of making better fights within the division.

Plus, Wilder's belt around his waist makes him more money in every fight he gets in the ring with it. World Champions, on average, make 20-40% more money in Boxing. Wilder's name isn't strong enough to carry him yet. He's on his way though.

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

[punchoutsb]

I would disagree that he is boring but that comes down to personal preference. But he is one of the most accomplished fighters out there at heavy. The excitement of an Arreola fight is knowing he'll throw the kitchen sink before gassing and getting knocked out in the third round and crying in his profanity laced post fight interview. The excitement in a Povetkin fight is that he's a top level guy with an actual chance to win.

[Rob3_142]

Povetkin just doesn't impress me at all. I don't even see why he's in the conversation for a title shot anyway. To me, it seems like this guys is nothing but clutter in the way of making better fights within the division.

Plus, Wilder's belt around his waist makes him more money in every fight he gets in the ring with it. World Champions, on average, make 20-40% more money in Boxing. Wilder's name isn't strong enough to carry him yet. He's on his way though.

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I have to say those are some pretty stupid comments. You'd rather Wilder gets in the ring for two rounds with Arreola rather than with someone who tops the WBC rankings with one defeat (UD against one of the greatest in the divison, ever).

This is, whether you like it or not, a sport, and is about results. Povetkin has earned his right to fight for the WBC championship. If you're after entertainment, I believe the Rocky films are pretty good. As a spectacle, this will be a very intriguing contest between a very technically astute fighter in Povetkin, and the raw, loose but powerful style of Wilder.

I for one can't wait!

[Marlo Stanfield]

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I have to say those are some pretty stupid comments. You'd rather Wilder gets in the ring for two rounds with Arreola rather than with someone who tops the WBC rankings with one defeat (UD against one of the greatest in the divison, ever).

This is, whether you like it or not, a sport, and is about results. Povetkin has earned his right to fight for the WBC championship. If you're after entertainment, I believe the Rocky films are pretty good. As a spectacle, this will be a very intriguing contest between a very technically astute fighter in Povetkin, and the raw, loose but powerful style of Wilder.

I for one can't wait!

Bum Squad keep running from Sasha

[caldo2025]

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I have to say those are some pretty stupid comments. You'd rather Wilder gets in the ring for two rounds with Arreola rather than with someone who tops the WBC rankings with one defeat (UD against one of the greatest in the divison, ever).

This is, whether you like it or not, a sport, and is about results. Povetkin has earned his right to fight for the WBC championship. If you're after entertainment, I believe the Rocky films are pretty good. As a spectacle, this will be a very intriguing contest between a very technically astute fighter in Povetkin, and the raw, loose but powerful style of Wilder.

I for one can't wait!

I'd much rather see 2 rounds of right hands and action than 12 rounds of clinches and low punch output that goes to the cards. What the heck makes Povetkin so worth this title shot. Since losing to Wlad in that yawn fest, Povetkin's beaten 4 nobodies. Don't give me the Mike Perez crap either. There's a guy that didn't even want to fight and who knows if he'll ever fight again.

Arreola is more deserving of the shot if we are being fair.

[punchoutsb]

Arreola is more deserving of the shot if we are being fair.

Was it his woeful draw against Fred Kassi or his woeful "win" against Travis Kauffman that ranks him above Povetkin?

Care to compare Povetkins 4 nobodies against Arreolas 3?

[Rob3_142]

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I have to say those are some pretty stupid comments. You'd rather Wilder gets in the ring for two rounds with Arreola rather than with someone who tops the WBC rankings with one defeat (UD against one of the greatest in the divison, ever).

This is, whether you like it or not, a sport, and is about results. Povetkin has earned his right to fight for the WBC championship. If you're after entertainment, I believe the Rocky films are pretty good. As a spectacle, this will be a very intriguing contest between a very technically astute fighter in Povetkin, and the raw, loose but powerful style of Wilder.

I for one can't wait!

I'd much rather see 2 rounds of right hands and action than 12 rounds of clinches and low punch output that goes to the cards. What the heck makes Povetkin so worth this title shot. Since losing to Wlad in that yawn fest, Povetkin's beaten 4 nobodies. Don't give me the Mike Perez crap either. There's a guy that didn't even want to fight and who knows if he'll ever fight again.

Arreola is more deserving of the shot if we are being fair.

Wow, seriously? What makes Arreola remotely deserved of a world title shot against Wilder? Would it be his bore draw against Fred Kassi? Or the bouts against Kauffman and Harper which he couldn't finish inside the distance? Arreola was comfortably beaten twice by Stiverne who was comfortably beaten by Wilder. There's one thing for sure, that would not be a competitive match up and a complete waste of Wilder's time.

I guess you think Klitchko is a rubbish boxer because he has a less than flashy style?

[Baby Face Finster]

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I have to say those are some pretty stupid comments. You'd rather Wilder gets in the ring for two rounds with Arreola rather than with someone who tops the WBC rankings with one defeat (UD against one of the greatest in the divison, ever).

This is, whether you like it or not, a sport, and is about results. Povetkin has earned his right to fight for the WBC championship. If you're after entertainment, I believe the Rocky films are pretty good. As a spectacle, this will be a very intriguing contest between a very technically astute fighter in Povetkin, and the raw, loose but powerful style of Wilder.

I for one can't wait!

I'd much rather see 2 rounds of right hands and action than 12 rounds of clinches and low punch output that goes to the cards. What the heck makes Povetkin so worth this title shot. Since losing to Wlad in that yawn fest, Povetkin's beaten 4 nobodies. Don't give me the Mike Perez crap either. There's a guy that didn't even want to fight and who knows if he'll ever fight again.

Arreola is more deserving of the shot if we are being fair.

You are for the most part a very good poster but this post is terrible. You are letting your hate for a fighter overrule common sense. In essence you have turned into Brute in this thread.

[Horse]

You are for the most part a very good poster

He's really not.

[man]

It would absolutely not surprise me, but let's just wait & see what happens before starting up a lynch mob.

true. i hope wilder doesn't do it. this could be
a no mas moment for his career. an american
heavy weight champion ducking a russian? ain't
goin' well with the media and in this day and
age ...

[Freedom2013]

He'll likely duck Povetkin again, but the WBC will not strip him.

Wilder will likely fight Martin next

[crusader]

That fight would be coming too early for Martin--the guy has had about 2.5 rounds against top 40 opposition.

[Rob3_142]

That fight would be coming too early for Martin--the guy has had about 2.5 rounds against top 40 opposition.

I think when you reach world level, there's no time to find your feet. He is a world champion, every fight will be a big fish now, a lot bigger than Glazkov too. He's a marked man with that belt.

That's why they won't rush Joshua into world level now because there's a lot of work to do. He's in an eliminator spot for the IBF and rank 1 in WBC, but don't expect him to see him in a world level fight for maybe 12 months.

[crusader]

There are plenty of lesser challengers he could fight before taking on Wilder---look at the IBF rankings.

[asdfjkl]

There are plenty of lesser challengers he could fight before taking on Wilder---look at the IBF rankings.

For me the whole thing was a setup, Martin and Glazkov were just picked by IBF for Wilder, Wilder and Martin got the same owner and even Glazkov was a close friend of Wilder. I'm not surprised at all Wilder gave some nice presents to some people from WBC recently.
There are piles of guys that could have been chosen for this trick, it's just sad to see.

I'm not sure why this is happening, everybody knows the Americans aren't the best boxers out there, TBH I don't even think Wilder is the best American boxer, I still think Jennings is.
And who knows what hidden guys like LaRon Mitchell could have done, or Cassius Chaney.

[caldo2025]

You are for the most part a very good poster

He's really not.

Who the heck are you? I've never read a word from you that I can remember so my guess, is you stink at this. Move along.

[caldo2025]

I have to say those are some pretty stupid comments. You'd rather Wilder gets in the ring for two rounds with Arreola rather than with someone who tops the WBC rankings with one defeat (UD against one of the greatest in the divison, ever).

This is, whether you like it or not, a sport, and is about results. Povetkin has earned his right to fight for the WBC championship. If you're after entertainment, I believe the Rocky films are pretty good. As a spectacle, this will be a very intriguing contest between a very technically astute fighter in Povetkin, and the raw, loose but powerful style of Wilder.

I for one can't wait!

I'd much rather see 2 rounds of right hands and action than 12 rounds of clinches and low punch output that goes to the cards. What the heck makes Povetkin so worth this title shot. Since losing to Wlad in that yawn fest, Povetkin's beaten 4 nobodies. Don't give me the Mike Perez crap either. There's a guy that didn't even want to fight and who knows if he'll ever fight again.

Arreola is more deserving of the shot if we are being fair.

You are for the most part a very good poster but this post is terrible. You are letting your hate for a fighter overrule common sense. In essence you have turned into Brute in this thread.

I just hate boring fights, not Povetkin specifically. I think that some of these Ukranian fighters are just riding the coattails of GGG, Kovalev and Loma to land big fights. There's NO WAY Povetkin deserves 2 World Title Shots in 2.5 years. I'd love to see you justify that matter for me.

[asdfjkl]

Povetkin just doesn't impress me at all. I don't even see why he's in the conversation for a title shot anyway. To me, it seems like this guys is nothing but clutter in the way of making better fights within the division.

Plus, Wilder's belt around his waist makes him more money in every fight he gets in the ring with it. World Champions, on average, make 20-40% more money in Boxing. Wilder's name isn't strong enough to carry him yet. He's on his way though.

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I'm sorry, but his entrance alone is already more interesting to watch as any Wilder fight ever. I really can't believe you've actually watched any of his fights. Even if he fights a lower ranked guy, the magnitude around him is so impressive, you can't compare it to any other boxer.

[caldo2025]

He's in the conversation because he's a former champion with only one loss against the best. As far as WBC rankings go, who exactly is a better name for Wilder?

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I'm sorry, but his entrance alone is already more interesting to watch as any Wilder fight ever. I really can't believe you've actually watched any of his fights. Even if he fights a lower ranked guy, the magnitude around him is so impressive, you can't compare it to any other boxer.

I have seen him fight a few times but you know, I could definitely be wrong about this guy. I've read your stuff before and know that you do know your stuff along with some other reasonable posters above saying the same thing. So when I see that happening, the odds are either i'm wrong or too uninformed to make the stance. So, i'll dig in and see if i can see what you guys see. Was there any particular fight that you would recommend me watch to get a good feel for this guy?

[Counter-puncher]

I'd much rather see 2 rounds of right hands and action than 12 rounds of clinches and low punch output that goes to the cards. What the heck makes Povetkin so worth this title shot. Since losing to Wlad in that yawn fest, Povetkin's beaten 4 nobodies. Don't give me the Mike Perez crap either. There's a guy that didn't even want to fight and who knows if he'll ever fight again.

Arreola is more deserving of the shot if we are being fair.

You are for the most part a very good poster but this post is terrible. You are letting your hate for a fighter overrule common sense. In essence you have turned into Brute in this thread.

I just hate boring fights, not Povetkin specifically. I think that some of these Ukranian fighters are just riding the coattails of GGG, Kovalev and Loma to land big fights. There's NO WAY Povetkin deserves 2 World Title Shots in 2.5 years. I'd love to see you justify that matter for me.

coupla points for you to remember:

(1) Povetkin is Russian not Ukrainian
(2) GGG and Kovalev, also Russian
(3) russia and Ukraine are different countries.
(4) how a Russian heavweight might right the coattails of a Ukrainian featherweight, who is under different management/etc, is beyond me. but then its probably beyond you, too.