Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

Poll ended at 04 Mar 2016, 17:23

Joshua KO/RSF - Round 1
6
9%
Joshua KO/RSF - Round 2
16
25%
Joshua KO/RSF - Round 3
21
33%
Joshua Points
1
2%
Fury KO/RSF - Any Round
3
5%
Fury Points
17
27%
 
Total votes: 64

Andy Paints Brian
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Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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In Homicide (I wish Bartley Gorman Was My Dad) Henry's world physical strength and punch power have NO place in boxing:
HomicideHenry wrote:This is boxing. This isn't a toughman contest. This isn't about who can lift the most weights. This isn't about who hits harder. This is about SKILLS, TIMING, SPEED, PRECISION
On this basis he feels Fury can beat Anthony Joshua :neutral:

What do you think?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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Fury points with aj gassing out late on :bag:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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watsupdoc87 wrote:Fury points with aj gassing out late on :bag:
Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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I think it'll never happen because they would never let Fury anywhere near Joshua , but hopefully i'm wrong cos i'd love to see it .
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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You are more than making this personal. Which is sad and pathetic, by the way. Then again, what would I expect from an Englishman? Nothing less than rudeness and spite. :clap: YOUR POINT was that Hughie was too small to fight Joshua. YOUR POINT was that Hughie was too immature to fight Joshua. YOUR POINT was that Joshua is such a powerhouse that Hughie has no chance in hell to win and would get blown away inside of three rounds.

All I pointed out is that BOXING, THE SWEET SCIENCE is not about power alone, size alone or even experience alone. Hughie is virtually the same size as Joshua. He's just as fast, if not faster. His style is all defense than offense. He's fast, he's experienced in the gym as Tyson's chief sparring partner and has put in hundreds and hundreds of rounds with a good mix of guys (Chambers, Cunningham, Johnson, etc).

Yes, I do believe Hughie can beat the man. But it's NOT because of my fascination with gyspies or bareknuckle boxing. It's because your man Joshua fights in a straight line, and has a limited arsenal of punches. He's wide open for counters, and the Dillian Whyte fight shown more errors and flaws in the man's style and constitution than it did success. Hughie has been taught, instructed and bred to be all about elusiveness and timing. I think a Joshua would have a hard time hitting the intended target.

Joshua is a repeat of David Price all over again. And that is just my feeling on the matter. We can agree to disagree all you want, but don't make it personal and say such contrived nonsense as to say I wish Gorman was my father and the like. That is petty, that is beneath common decency. Just because you are a man who wants to focus on paper (records) rather than what records don't show, and have to real vision to see outside the box, doesn't give you the right to insult me in such a manner.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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I feel Hughie would win on points.
Its a fight I would love to see...
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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I should also add that Henry will send $100 to every member of the forum if Hughie fails to win a major title :TU:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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Andy Paints Brian wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:Fury points with aj gassing out late on :bag:
Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
i thought that went 7 not 12 rounds. and i dont think whytes any use tbh. i tink fury outboxes 2 of them. i dont think either aj or whyte will amount to much when they really step up in class. but i think your a funny fuker, i enjoy reading your posts :TU: even if i dnt agree :bag:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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Andy Paints Brian wrote:I should also add that Henry will send $100 to every member of the forum if Hughie fails to win a major title :TU:
The challenge was made directly to YOU, sir. :TU: If I am correct, all I said was you didn't owe me $100, just an apology.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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not seen Hughie in with enough quality to gauge him . dont know why aj is given so much credit after the whyte fight. thought it showed aj can be hurt , he didn't bang an out shape looking whyte who has not fought any one . think it showed aj has a heart and will take a punch and wont bottle it. still think chisoria would be a tough fight for both of these an experienced whyte type of fighter
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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Andy Paints Brian wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:Fury points with aj gassing out late on :bag:
Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
It really makes me laugh about how people have really lowered Joshua's stock since the Whyte fight . Watch the fight again , he had a dodgy few moments ,but was never in any serious trouble . Look how it turned out for Tyson Fury after his shockingly awful showing against Mcdermott in their first fight that most thought he lost , just after that fight you would never have dreamed he would be world champion one day . Joshua won by a stunning ko, not enough for some people .
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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rd350lc wrote:
Andy Paints Brian wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:Fury points with aj gassing out late on :bag:
Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
It really makes me laugh about how people have really lowered Joshua's stock since the Whyte fight . Watch the fight again , he had a dodgy few moments ,but was never in any serious trouble . Look how it turned out for Tyson Fury after his shockingly awful showing against Mcdermott in their first fight that most thought he lost , just after that fight you would never have dreamed he would be world champion one day . Joshua won by a stunning ko, not enough for some people .
i wasnt basing my opinion on the whyte fight at all, its an overall opinion ive had for some time :bag:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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HomicideHenry wrote:You are more than making this personal. Which is sad and pathetic, by the way. Then again, what would I expect from an Englishman? Nothing less than rudeness and spite. :clap: YOUR POINT was that Hughie was too small to fight Joshua. YOUR POINT was that Hughie was too immature to fight Joshua. YOUR POINT was that Joshua is such a powerhouse that Hughie has no chance in hell to win and would get blown away inside of three rounds.

All I pointed out is that BOXING, THE SWEET SCIENCE is not about power alone, size alone or even experience alone. Hughie is virtually the same size as Joshua. He's just as fast, if not faster. His style is all defense than offense. He's fast, he's experienced in the gym as Tyson's chief sparring partner and has put in hundreds and hundreds of rounds with a good mix of guys (Chambers, Cunningham, Johnson, etc).

Yes, I do believe Hughie can beat the man. But it's NOT because of my fascination with gyspies or bareknuckle boxing. It's because your man Joshua fights in a straight line, and has a limited arsenal of punches. He's wide open for counters, and the Dillian Whyte fight shown more errors and flaws in the man's style and constitution than it did success. Hughie has been taught, instructed and bred to be all about elusiveness and timing. I think a Joshua would have a hard time hitting the intended target.

Joshua is a repeat of David Price all over again. And that is just my feeling on the matter. We can agree to disagree all you want, but don't make it personal and say such contrived nonsense as to say I wish Gorman was my father and the like. That is petty, that is beneath common decency. Just because you are a man who wants to focus on paper (records) rather than what records don't show, and have to real vision to see outside the box, doesn't give you the right to insult me in such a manner.
1. I'm not English (don't make assumptions)

2. Once again, I can name numerous boxers with skills VASTLY superior to Hughies who have been beaten by blokes who were simply stronger and hit harder.

3. Sparring, fighting TWO very different things (honest) EG: Hughie purportedly handles the likes of Cunningham, Johnson and Chambers with EASE in sparring but looks like sh*t against Danny Hughes in a 'real' fight.

4. Nothing to do with 'paper records' Joshua is will overpower Hughie with relative ease.

5. I have 'every right to insult you' and I will continue to do so if you keep spouting drivel.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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watsupdoc87 wrote:i thought that went 7 not 12 rounds. and i dont think whytes any use tbh. i tink fury outboxes 2 of them. i dont think either aj or whyte will amount to much when they really step up in class. but i think your a funny fuker, i enjoy reading your posts :TU: even if i dnt agree :bag:
I am aware of that thanks but going seven at a decent pace (after being badly hurt in the second) and still having the power to spark a bloke hardly indicates a 'gas' problem.

But thanks for the kind words anyway :TU:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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rd350lc wrote:
Andy Paints Brian wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:Fury points with aj gassing out late on :bag:
Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
It really makes me laugh about how people have really lowered Joshua's stock since the Whyte fight . Watch the fight again , he had a dodgy few moments ,but was never in any serious trouble . Look how it turned out for Tyson Fury after his shockingly awful showing against Mcdermott in their first fight that most thought he lost , just after that fight you would never have dreamed he would be world champion one day . Joshua won by a stunning ko, not enough for some people .
not lowering his stock .i just dont know why we are making him out to be king kong after beating whyte who didnt have a rep. like i said i think it show aj will take a punch so he has a heart. but it also showed aj can be hurt would you not agree
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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rd350lc wrote:It really makes me laugh about how people have really lowered Joshua's stock since the Whyte fight . Watch the fight again , he had a dodgy few moments ,but was never in any serious trouble . Look how it turned out for Tyson Fury after his shockingly awful showing against Mcdermott in their first fight that most thought he lost , just after that fight you would never have dreamed he would be world champion one day . Joshua won by a stunning ko, not enough for some people .
That is quality post :TU:
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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watsupdoc87 wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
Andy Paints Brian wrote:Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
It really makes me laugh about how people have really lowered Joshua's stock since the Whyte fight . Watch the fight again , he had a dodgy few moments ,but was never in any serious trouble . Look how it turned out for Tyson Fury after his shockingly awful showing against Mcdermott in their first fight that most thought he lost , just after that fight you would never have dreamed he would be world champion one day . Joshua won by a stunning ko, not enough for some people .
i wasnt basing my opinion on the whyte fight at all, its an overall opinion ive had for some time :bag:
OK fair enough , what fights of his previous have had you concerns about his potential to go the top level ?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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brilo33 wrote:i just dont know why we are making him out to be king kong
I'm not making him out to be anything, but I do think he would walk through Hughie.
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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brilo33 wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
Andy Paints Brian wrote:Like he 'gassed out' against Whyte?
It really makes me laugh about how people have really lowered Joshua's stock since the Whyte fight . Watch the fight again , he had a dodgy few moments ,but was never in any serious trouble . Look how it turned out for Tyson Fury after his shockingly awful showing against Mcdermott in their first fight that most thought he lost , just after that fight you would never have dreamed he would be world champion one day . Joshua won by a stunning ko, not enough for some people .
not lowering his stock .i just dont know why we are making him out to be king kong after beating whyte who didnt have a rep. like i said i think it show aj will take a punch so he has a heart. but it also showed aj can be hurt would you not agree
totally agree that any boxer can and will be hurt .
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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Andy Paints Brian wrote:
brilo33 wrote:i just dont know why we are making him out to be king kong
I'm not making him out to be anything, but I do think he would walk through Hughie.
to be honest i think most of us think that is what will happen
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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brilo33 wrote:to be honest i think most of us think that is what will happen
HomicideHenryGorman wrote:Hughie has been taught, instructed and bred to be all about elusiveness and timing. I think a Joshua would have a hard time hitting the intended target
:neutral:
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HomicideHenry wrote:You are more than making this personal. Which is sad and pathetic, by the way. Then again, what would I expect from an Englishman? Nothing less than rudeness and spite. :clap: YOUR POINT was that Hughie was too small to fight Joshua. YOUR POINT was that Hughie was too immature to fight Joshua. YOUR POINT was that Joshua is such a powerhouse that Hughie has no chance in hell to win and would get blown away inside of three rounds.

All I pointed out is that BOXING, THE SWEET SCIENCE is not about power alone, size alone or even experience alone. Hughie is virtually the same size as Joshua. He's just as fast, if not faster. His style is all defense than offense. He's fast, he's experienced in the gym as Tyson's chief sparring partner and has put in hundreds and hundreds of rounds with a good mix of guys (Chambers, Cunningham, Johnson, etc).

Yes, I do believe Hughie can beat the man. But it's NOT because of my fascination with gyspies or bareknuckle boxing. It's because your man Joshua fights in a straight line, and has a limited arsenal of punches. He's wide open for counters, and the Dillian Whyte fight shown more errors and flaws in the man's style and constitution than it did success. Hughie has been taught, instructed and bred to be all about elusiveness and timing. I think a Joshua would have a hard time hitting the intended target.

Joshua is a repeat of David Price all over again. And that is just my feeling on the matter. We can agree to disagree all you want, but don't make it personal and say such contrived nonsense as to say I wish Gorman was my father and the like. That is petty, that is beneath common decency. Just because you are a man who wants to focus on paper (records) rather than what records don't show, and have to real vision to see outside the box, doesn't give you the right to insult me in such a manner.
Ay?
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Re: Anthony Joshua vs Hughie Fury

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lefty wrote:Ay?
'Rudeness and spite' :shame:
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