Biggest duck ever? Wilder will likely vacate title, unwilling to fight his mandatory Povetkin

[Boxerbeetle]

You are for the most part a very good poster but this post is terrible. You are letting your hate for a fighter overrule common sense. In essence you have turned into Brute in this thread.

I just hate boring fights, not Povetkin specifically. I think that some of these Ukranian fighters are just riding the coattails of GGG, Kovalev and Loma to land big fights. There's NO WAY Povetkin deserves 2 World Title Shots in 2.5 years. I'd love to see you justify that matter for me.

coupla points for you to remember:

(1) Povetkin is Russian not Ukrainian
(2) GGG and Kovalev, also Russian
(3) russia and Ukraine are different countries.
(4) how a Russian heavweight might right the coattails of a Ukrainian featherweight, who is under different management/etc, is beyond me. but then its probably beyond you, too.

GGG is Khazak, isn't he?

[watsupdoc87]

GGG is kazakhstani neither russian or ukranian

[greg]

GGG is Khazak, isn't he?

...according to GGG: " My Dad - Russian, Mum - Korean and I'm Kazakh..."

[caldo2025]

You are for the most part a very good poster but this post is terrible. You are letting your hate for a fighter overrule common sense. In essence you have turned into Brute in this thread.

I just hate boring fights, not Povetkin specifically. I think that some of these Ukranian fighters are just riding the coattails of GGG, Kovalev and Loma to land big fights. There's NO WAY Povetkin deserves 2 World Title Shots in 2.5 years. I'd love to see you justify that matter for me.

coupla points for you to remember:

(1) Povetkin is Russian not Ukrainian
(2) GGG and Kovalev, also Russian
(3) russia and Ukraine are different countries.
(4) how a Russian heavweight might right the coattails of a Ukrainian featherweight, who is under different management/etc, is beyond me. but then its probably beyond you, too.

Should have said Eastern Europe, I guess. Never claimed to be smart but congrats I guess.

[Counter-puncher]

yeah, Ukraine/Russia, whats the difference? discuss it with one of your fellow-Mexicans or fellow-Canadians some time.

[asdfjkl]

Povetkin is synonymous with boring. I've watched several of his fights and his style is so bland and almost unwatchable. To me, anyone in the top 10 would be a better fight to watch. Heck, I'd much rather see Arreola against Wilder because at least it would be fun for a round or two.

I just don't get the attraction with him at all.

I'm sorry, but his entrance alone is already more interesting to watch as any Wilder fight ever. I really can't believe you've actually watched any of his fights. Even if he fights a lower ranked guy, the magnitude around him is so impressive, you can't compare it to any other boxer.

I have seen him fight a few times but you know, I could definitely be wrong about this guy. I've read your stuff before and know that you do know your stuff along with some other reasonable posters above saying the same thing. So when I see that happening, the odds are either i'm wrong or too uninformed to make the stance. So, i'll dig in and see if i can see what you guys see. Was there any particular fight that you would recommend me watch to get a good feel for this guy?

Just watch his wikipedia page, that's supposed to be enough I think.

[Badhusker]

http://www.BS.com/povetkins-pr ... in--100804

Ryabinsky, Povetkin's promoter claims that Wilder will be voluntarily vacating his WBC heavyweight title because he doesn't want to fight Alexander Povetkin, his mandatory challenger.

***This is quite possibly the most ridiculous, pathetic, and sad attempt at heavyweight championship boxing I've ever seen***. Wilder is a fraud. His team are a fraud. It's hard for anyone to defend him after this. As far as I know, he is the first heavyweight titlist in the history of boxing to ever voluntarily vacate a title. Muhammad Ali vacated a title but that was different, he did so for political reasons. Wilder is vacating because his management team is simply unwilling (afraid) to fulfill their mandatory obligation of fighting Alexander Povetkin.

This is sad on so many levels. Shame on Wilder. Shame on Wilder's team. This is the biggest duck I've ever seen in pro boxing. This is 100% dork move.

I actually made a poll on this site, on boxrec.com, about 8 months ago asking in a poll if Wilder would vacate rather than fight Povetkin, and in that thread I pedicted that Wilder would vacate and be unwilling to fight Povetkin. So I'm not surprised

Wilder and his team might as well come out and say: "I can't beat Povetkin, so I'm not willing to take the risk and fight him, so instead I am giving up my belt so that I don't have to fight him and get knocked out."

I think this is the biggest duck in the history of boxing!

Povetkin and his team went to the WBC both last September and last month saying they didn't want the fight at those dates. Wilder was ready to fight. He wanted to stay busy and took two other fights on those dates.
Now, when you post something as stupid as you did above, I hope you can at least be man enough to admit you were wrong. I won't hold my breath though, since your reading comprehension is obviously very low.

http://www.BS.com/deontay-wild ... es--101289

[sucracristo]

stupid ring magazine is in on the elaborate conspiracy, also.
povetkin's camp acknowledge they weren't ready to fight until may.
wbc confirmed povetkin would not be ready until may.
wilder's camp has repeatedly said they want povetkin next.
wbc orders purse bid feb 26 if camps can't come to agreement.
it's all one big conspiracy, i tell you. they are all trying to keep
the great povetkin from his most wonderful moment. we all
know the truth. povetkin scares averyone. everyone is scared
of povetkin. no way is wilder going to get in a ring may 21 with
with his eminence, the great povetkin (and knock povetkin tfo).
povetkin laying unconscious on the canvas may 21, at the
hands of a "coward american", with povetkin's boxrec bumkissers
sobbing and excuse-making, is an impossibility. all hail povetkin!!
the night of may 21 we should revisit these "wilder is a ducker"
threads to congratulate the povetkin bumkissers on their victory.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4111 ... ight-in-ny
"Deontay Wilder and mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin are in talks for a May 21st title fight at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, promoter Lou DiBella told RingTV.com on Thursday.

DiBella said he spoke with Russian promoter Andrey Ryabinski about the framework of a deal for the WBC heavyweight title fight and is waiting to hear back.

Wilder, the WBC champion, has repeatedly said he won’t vacate the title and welcomes the challenge of facing Povetkin.

“I got Alexander Povetkin lined up,” Wilder told RingTV.com earlier this month. “That’s what I know of right now. I want to get Povetkin out of the way.”

Povetkin (30-1, 22 knockouts) is the No. 2-rated heavyweight in THE RING’s ratings while Wilder (36-0, 35 KOs) sits at No. 3. Povetkin’s lone loss came against Wladimir Klitschko via a decision in 2013.

Povetkin was ringside at Barclays Center last month when Wilder crushed Artur Szpilka with a right hand to end their bout in the ninth round. WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman has said that if a deal cannot be brokered in the voluntary negotiation phase between the Wilder and Povetkin camps, a purse bid will take place on Feb. 26."

[Tanzio]

No, Wilder is not even close to the biggest duck artist ever.

[asdfjkl]

stupid ring magazine is in on the elaborate conspiracy, also.
povetkin's camp acknowledge they weren't ready to fight until may.
wbc confirmed povetkin would not be ready until may.
wilder's camp has repeatedly said they want povetkin next.
wbc orders purse bid feb 26 if camps can't come to agreement.
it's all one big conspiracy, i tell you. they are all trying to keep
the great povetkin from his most wonderful moment. we all
know the truth. povetkin scares averyone. everyone is scared
of povetkin. no way is wilder going to get in a ring may 21 with
with his eminence, the great povetkin (and knock povetkin tfo).
povetkin laying unconscious on the canvas may 21, at the
hands of a "coward american", with povetkin's boxrec bumkissers
sobbing and excuse-making, is an impossibility. all hail povetkin!!
the night of may 21 we should revisit these "wilder is a ducker"
threads to congratulate the povetkin bumkissers on their victory.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/4111 ... ight-in-ny
"Deontay Wilder and mandatory challenger Alexander Povetkin are in talks for a May 21st title fight at Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York, promoter Lou DiBella told RingTV.com on Thursday.

DiBella said he spoke with Russian promoter Andrey Ryabinski about the framework of a deal for the WBC heavyweight title fight and is waiting to hear back.

Wilder, the WBC champion, has repeatedly said he won’t vacate the title and welcomes the challenge of facing Povetkin.

“I got Alexander Povetkin lined up,” Wilder told RingTV.com earlier this month. “That’s what I know of right now. I want to get Povetkin out of the way.”

Povetkin (30-1, 22 knockouts) is the No. 2-rated heavyweight in THE RING’s ratings while Wilder (36-0, 35 KOs) sits at No. 3. Povetkin’s lone loss came against Wladimir Klitschko via a decision in 2013.

Povetkin was ringside at Barclays Center last month when Wilder crushed Artur Szpilka with a right hand to end their bout in the ninth round. WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman has said that if a deal cannot be brokered in the voluntary negotiation phase between the Wilder and Povetkin camps, a purse bid will take place on Feb. 26."

Povetkin and his team were ready right after the Mike Perez fight and Povetkin stated at the time he wanted to fight as soon as possible against Wilder. Somehow Wilder wasn't ready and because of that fought someone who was just below his own level, like Hughie Fury, Andrzej Wawrzyk and eventually Duhaupas. When that became clear, the team of Povetkin decided to fight Wach because otherwise Povetkin would only have fought half a round in over a year. Povetkin even warned that he was going to fight around may or june this year if Wilder declined to fight him first.
Wilder indeed fought Duhaupas, Povetkin fought Wach and suddenly Wilder said he wanted to fight anyway. Povetkin kept his word and refused to change all of a sudden because of Wilder his lies and that's why he didn't fight in januari.
Povetkin was ready all the time, he just isn't a lier, like Wilder is. At this moment Wilder has no choice left but fighting Povetkin, and now he's suddenly acting like cool and acting like he wishes to fight Povetkin next and acting like it was the 36 year old Povetkin who wasn't ready for Wilder yet and all that kind of bullshit.

He does exactly the same with Anthony Joshua, first he said he thought it was odd that AJ was ranked that high, then AJ said he didn't feel ready for the top of the world already and didn't want to fight them yet because once he does he doesn't want to go back fighting bums like Duhaupas or Szpilka's or Molina or whatever, like Wilder does. After that Wilder suddenly challenged AJ saying that once AJ wanted to step up, Wilder was ready for him.


If you really don't see what games Wilder is playing you must really be blindfolded, despite he got quite a bunch of media behind him.


For me counts: If you haven't fought your mandatory, the belt doesn't really belong to you yet, you just carry it.

[sucracristo]

For me counts: If you haven't fought your mandatory, the belt doesn't really belong to you yet, you just carry it.

but you don't count. it doesn't matter what you count and you don't count for anybody but you.
NOBODY thinks povetkin is champ. you seem to think contenders can just dictate to the guy
who actually won a title when they will fight. it is the titlist and the abc's who determine that.
wilder won the title a year ago and gave povetkin his chance to challenge for it but POVETKIN
said he wasn't ready. the WBC confirmed that. i just posted ANOTHER link from ring showing
wilder's side is AGAIN trying to set a date with povetkin and where is povetkin AGAIN?
nobody CARES when some dude who claims to want to challenge said he wanted the date to be.
just shut up and fight when you are offered the opportunity, premadonna. WBC is ordering purse
bids in 12 days if povetkin refuses to sign, but somehow you will make THAT out to be the WBC
ducking the great indestructible fearsome CAT 5 hurricane that is povetkin. when will the gayness end?

[Badhusker]

asdfjk is a moron. His (or her) posts prove it. Anyone can read articles and put forth their own opinion based on that, but asdfjk seems to look at articles, read between the lines, and put out her opinions. That's fine I guess, a lot of folks do it.

Keep it real, and stay with the facts, please. Who knows, Povetkin may KO Wilder and a lot of folks will be happy. In the meantime, quit the Wilder is afraid to fight Povetkin BS. Its not true.

[asdfjkl]

For me counts: If you haven't fought your mandatory, the belt doesn't really belong to you yet, you just carry it.

but you don't count. it doesn't matter what you count and you don't count for anybody but you.
NOBODY thinks povetkin is champ. you seem to think contenders can just dictate to the guy
who actually won a title when they will fight. it is the titlist and the abc's who determine that.
wilder won the title a year ago and gave povetkin his chance to challenge for it but POVETKIN
said he wasn't ready. the WBC confirmed that. i just posted ANOTHER link from ring showing
wilder's side is AGAIN trying to set a date with povetkin and where is povetkin AGAIN?
nobody CARES when some dude who claims to want to challenge said he wanted the date to be.
just shut up and fight when you are offered the opportunity, premadonna. WBC is ordering purse
bids in 12 days if povetkin refuses to sign, but somehow you will make THAT out to be the WBC
ducking the great indestructible fearsome CAT 5 hurricane that is povetkin. when will the gayness end?

Lol, even during the Wach fight people wrongly said he was the champ instead of Wilder.
Povetkin can actually pretty much say whenever he wants to fight at this moment, or else there will come a pursebid and he can easely win that if he likes, unless Wilder gives the belt away, which is clearly possible indeed.
Also, Povetkin wanted the fight straight away as fast as possible and made that clear, but it was Wilder and his team who wanted another few bums before Povetkin. That's why Wilder approached Andrzej Wawrzyk (who got KOed by Povetkin in 3 rounds when he was at his peak), that's why Wilder approached Hughie Fury while the Fury family was busy with Klitschko, Hughie Fury actually accepted the challenge on 8 weeks notice, but that was too risky for Wilder, so Wilder refused that anyway, then Wilder found some guy called Duhaupas who lost against most of the names known by wikipedia he had fought at the time, that eventually became the match. When Povetkin and his team realised Wilder wanted to fight someone else because he was scared for Povetkin, something fully understandeble, Povetkin and his team offered to fight straight away or around summer 2016. Wilder fought someone else, that became the moment everybody in the boxing world knew the fight would happen in the summer of 2016:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oahKlOBTvh8 He for example didn't guess the summer 2016 moment, he knew it, just like verybody else.
Povetkin eventually fought Wach in November and once Wilder and his team knew that they suddenly started acting like they wanted to fight Povetkin right after Christmas on a few weeks notice.

Povetkin kept his word and planned to fight in the summer anyway. Acting like it was Povetkin who wasn't ready is about the dumbest thing you can do since Povetkin is 36 years old and clearly in the second half of his carreer, it had nothing to do with beïng ready, it had more to do with the deal they made. Somehow Wilder continually lies and acts and behaves like an immature men, Povetkin one the other side continually acts mature and patient till Wilder is finally ready and stops with his lies.

Wilder is an actor, Povetkin and his team already said before the Duhaupas fight that the fight would most likely happen in America, and now suddenly Wilder and his team and some media idiots are acting like Povetkin only wants to fight in Russia.

If Wilder got skills he actually got a lot of advantages above Povetkin, somehow he's clearly in fear, or especially used to be last summer.