Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

Frampton vs. Quigg Winner and How?

Poll ended at 17 Nov 2015, 17:17

Carl Frampton Stoppage
75
22%
Carl Frampton Decision
114
34%
Draw
10
3%
Scott Quigg Decision
27
8%
Scott Quigg Stoppage
110
33%
 
Total votes: 336

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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

Post by Pugilist-specialist »

G0mez wrote:

Why does 1 guy need all those people ? there are as many cyclone employees as matchroom employees it would seem.

But one stable has 30-40 world, Euro and British level televised fighters... and the other has basically one.

It's like running a jumbo jet with one passenger. All that staff for one guy. Whereas Matchroom has the same amount of staff but an endless list of fighters - so the annual staff bill is evenly distributed across numerous events, rather than just one or two fighter's purses.

Most fighters pay their trainer, their spars and any associated meals/flights and that's it. Some have a separate manager/ agent on top. But I fear Frampton's income is running a whole company - because I dont see any other cyclone fighter tipping in large amounts of money.

Maybe I dont have all the facts, maybe they have business on the side and it's a part-time thing with Carl? who knows.
Although Frampton is getting the bigger purse, Hearn claimed that after paying their trainers etc, Quigg would walk away with far more money. Blaine McGuigan claimed that this was slanderous.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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reggaereggae wrote:
3. Fast, gay and Camp Eddie Hearns (sic) looks like an oversized, aged, teenage groupie, waving his hands, clapping and acting unprofessionally.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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palooka wrote:
Would be be able to travel to the USA with a criminal record?
People tend to come unstuck when they don't declare their record.
Richard Towers was in Vegas for an Andy Lee fight.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Pugilist-specialist wrote:
G0mez wrote:

Why does 1 guy need all those people ? there are as many cyclone employees as matchroom employees it would seem.

But one stable has 30-40 world, Euro and British level televised fighters... and the other has basically one.

It's like running a jumbo jet with one passenger. All that staff for one guy. Whereas Matchroom has the same amount of staff but an endless list of fighters - so the annual staff bill is evenly distributed across numerous events, rather than just one or two fighter's purses.

Most fighters pay their trainer, their spars and any associated meals/flights and that's it. Some have a separate manager/ agent on top. But I fear Frampton's income is running a whole company - because I dont see any other cyclone fighter tipping in large amounts of money.

Maybe I dont have all the facts, maybe they have business on the side and it's a part-time thing with Carl? who knows.
Although Frampton is getting the bigger purse, Hearn claimed that after paying their trainers etc, Quigg would walk away with far more money.

Blaine McGuigan claimed that this was slanderous.
Did anyone ask Blaine mcguigan what the fvck he has to do with the price of fish and what, exactly, is his place on the Frampton gravy train?
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Counter-puncher wrote:
Pugilist-specialist wrote:
G0mez wrote:

Why does 1 guy need all those people ? there are as many cyclone employees as matchroom employees it would seem.

But one stable has 30-40 world, Euro and British level televised fighters... and the other has basically one.

It's like running a jumbo jet with one passenger. All that staff for one guy. Whereas Matchroom has the same amount of staff but an endless list of fighters - so the annual staff bill is evenly distributed across numerous events, rather than just one or two fighter's purses.

Most fighters pay their trainer, their spars and any associated meals/flights and that's it. Some have a separate manager/ agent on top. But I fear Frampton's income is running a whole company - because I dont see any other cyclone fighter tipping in large amounts of money.

Maybe I dont have all the facts, maybe they have business on the side and it's a part-time thing with Carl? who knows.
Although Frampton is getting the bigger purse, Hearn claimed that after paying their trainers etc, Quigg would walk away with far more money.

Blaine McGuigan claimed that this was slanderous.
Did anyone ask Blaine mcguigan what the fvck he has to do with the price of fish and what, exactly, is his place on the Frampton gravy train?
He tried to talk at the presser on Thurs and Quigg butted in and said something along they lines...
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Fvcking entourage fodder, fvck Blaine mcguigan
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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He's Barrys son does'nt that make him speciel ... Honestly the more you watch the Mcguiggans , the more distateful they become ,, In Barrys endevour to become a world renowned , no nonsence manager , he really is just making himself Irelands version of Chris Eubanks .

All this , the dressing rooms was just tactics nonsence , Just shows he's trying so hard to play the crafty manager , he's just looking like a pillock .. and Shane with his , setting Joe up for a push shove match , well thats bollocks , the whole world knows its not going anywhere, with security there , he's (Barry ) Arguing with security , Jeez is there ANYONE that familly has not argued or upset in the build up , they think there being clever , there just looking like PRATTS.

Whats the new one , if they have a certain commentator there pulling out ,, problem with idle threats is like swearing , if you do it to much it loses its meaning .
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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I didn't think there were many diva's in boxing , but the whole Frampton camp are playing the role well.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Im a big fan of Frampton he's one of my favs,i like his boxing style,rate his ability and like how he comes across outside the ring but i think the way him and his team have acted since the fight was made has been pretty poor,nothing OTT but just a bit tiresome,Carl seems obsessed about being the A side and ticket seller,popular fighter,proper champ etc and he's just been constantly belittling Quigg who i think has carried himself very well throughout,in slating Eddie and Joe's arrogance,what team Frampton have done is do the same thing their accusing the other team of,coming across as a bit precious

I remember seeing an interview with Frampton years ago where he says he very chilled and even his wife says he's too laid back and before a fight Carl says he has to tell Shane to tell Barry to leave the dressing room because he's too excitable and all Carl wants to do is relax with a bit of Sam Cooke before a fight but Barry gets too animated and he's been at his worst for this fight

I would probably still like to see Frampton win but i'd be happy for Quigg if he won,he's worked hard for it and seems to have sacrificed his life for the sport

I cant wait to get there,im leaving 1st thing in the morning,ive been to a few pro shows before but never a big one like this,i usually like to be in the comfort of my own home for the boxing but i'll make an exception for this,ive told my mates i'll no be fvcking about in boozers im watching every fight and have even nipped to the bookies for pens and slips to score the fights :box: ........ :oops:
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Have a great night Stone ,it should be fantastic ,I'm hoping Quigg can pull it off , he seems like a decent lad .
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Have a great night stoney :TU: :bag:
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Thanks lad i will do :TU:
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Very interesting that 313 votes in we have Quigg as slight favourite for a stoppage win.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Goz wrote:Very interesting that 313 votes in we have Quigg as slight favourite for a stoppage win.
That's the SKY hype effect.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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chad wrote:
Goz wrote:Very interesting that 313 votes in we have Quigg as slight favourite for a stoppage win.
That's the SKY hype effect.
exactly, i really hope everyone who says quigg wins really lumps on big money on him and makes framptons odds stretch. will be a lovely sight watching my ladbrookes account going up for once! :bag:
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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handsofstone wrote:Im a big fan of Frampton he's one of my favs,i like his boxing style,rate his ability and like how he comes across outside the ring but i think the way him and his team have acted since the fight was made has been pretty poor,nothing OTT but just a bit tiresome,Carl seems obsessed about being the A side and ticket seller,popular fighter,proper champ etc and he's just been constantly belittling Quigg who i think has carried himself very well throughout,in slating Eddie and Joe's arrogance,what team Frampton have done is do the same thing their accusing the other team of,coming across as a bit precious

I remember seeing an interview with Frampton years ago where he says he very chilled and even his wife says he's too laid back and before a fight Carl says he has to tell Shane to tell Barry to leave the dressing room because he's too excitable and all Carl wants to do is relax with a bit of Sam Cooke before a fight but Barry gets too animated and he's been at his worst for this fight

I would probably still like to see Frampton win but i'd be happy for Quigg if he won,he's worked hard for it and seems to have sacrificed his life for the sport

I cant wait to get there,im leaving 1st thing in the morning,ive been to a few pro shows before but never a big one like this,i usually like to be in the comfort of my own home for the boxing but i'll make an exception for this,ive told my mates i'll no be fvcking about in boozers im watching every fight and have even nipped to the bookies for pens and slips to score the fights :box: ........ :oops:
Pretty much sums up how I'm feeling. I was a Frampton fan but I haven't liked their attitude in the build up to this at all, and I've felt Quigg has held himself well. I think Frampton is the favourite going in but I wouldn't mind Quigg taking this, he seems a decent lad.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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I dont doubt that there may be a few too many people making money from Frampton but one has to admire the effort McGuigan has put into Framptons career from the early stages. He took some chances of his own along the journey and has had a big part to play in where Carl finds himself now. Are there questions to be asked about some of the people earning from the team, yes possibly but as far as Barry and Shane are concerned they both seem to be meeting the requirements of their job descriptions. Barrys popularity and fame undoubtedly made Frampton a household name much earlier than he otherwise would have been, his management led him to titles and now this huge fight.

Im not saying that Barry McGuigan is perfect but its easy to criticise the part he and his family are currently playing in Framptons career. However before you do that, lets remember how he got to this stage. He would have known the benefits to having the McGuigans on board when he signed up with them and I doubt very much he has ever regretted it.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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I really like both fighters but since its been made I think quigg will do it. I think he has the better engine. I keep thinking the fight will go the way of crolla v murray.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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D-Day, on way to airport, c'mon the Jackal :bag:
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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It's finally here.

After the weight in I am going for Frampton on points.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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watsupdoc87 wrote:
chad wrote:
Goz wrote:Very interesting that 313 votes in we have Quigg as slight favourite for a stoppage win.
That's the SKY hype effect.
exactly, i really hope everyone who says quigg wins really lumps on big money on him and makes framptons odds stretch. will be a lovely sight watching my ladbrookes account going up for once! :bag:
I disagree that it's purely down to Sky hype. I just think a lot of people changed their view of this fight after the last performances from both boxers - Frampton looked fragile & clearly had problems with the weight, whereas Quigg blew away Kiko in 2.
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Boxerbeetle wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:
chad wrote:
That's the SKY hype effect.
exactly, i really hope everyone who says quigg wins really lumps on big money on him and makes framptons odds stretch. will be a lovely sight watching my ladbrookes account going up for once! :bag:
I disagree that it's purely down to Sky hype. I just think a lot of people changed their view of this fight after the last performances from both boxers - Frampton looked fragile & clearly had problems with the weight, whereas Quigg blew away Kiko in 2.

Quigg didn't look too good either at the weigh in?
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Just ordered the fight, I'm buzzing already. Spectacular day of sport ahead :yay:
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Re: Carl Frampton (IBF) vs. Scott Quigg (WBA) - February 27th 2016

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Rexob wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
watsupdoc87 wrote:
exactly, i really hope everyone who says quigg wins really lumps on big money on him and makes framptons odds stretch. will be a lovely sight watching my ladbrookes account going up for once! :bag:
I disagree that it's purely down to Sky hype. I just think a lot of people changed their view of this fight after the last performances from both boxers - Frampton looked fragile & clearly had problems with the weight, whereas Quigg blew away Kiko in 2.

Quigg didn't look too good either at the weigh in?
Yeah but most people probably voted before the weigh in happened :geek:
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