Who is boxing's worst referee?

Who is boxing's worst referee?

Poll ended at 07 Jun 2017, 14:56

Laurence Cole
25
23%
Jack Reiss
14
13%
Steve Smoger
6
6%
Ian John-Lewis
31
28%
Russell Mora
5
5%
Frank Santore Jr
1
1%
Robert Gonzalez
1
1%
Marlon Wright
4
4%
Terry O'Connor
11
10%
Howard Foster
11
10%
 
Total votes: 109

Ilya Muromets
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Ilya Muromets »

I agree with (the now retired) Joe Cortez - who refereed 885 fights! He was on the take as are so many of them. There are so many bad ones it is hard to keep up with them. The judges are, of course, even much worse. Randy Neumann was my own personal nominee as the worst ref, but I think - hope - he's retired too - now working full time at his money laundering business in NJ. There are good refs too, but I'm not good at remembering names.

Randy Neumann Wealth Management

http://www.randyneumann.com/
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

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Bayliss AKA floyds bodyguard
Boxerbeetle
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Boxerbeetle »

Freedom2013 wrote:There are three exceptionally bad ones:

Lawrence Cole
Jack Reiss
Ian John-Lewis


All three always side with either one fighter or the other.

Some of the others mentioned in this thread are bad as well, but these three referees sink lower than any of the rest.
Agreed, these three are by far the worst.
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Post by tigermoth87 »

Terry O'Connor is wank.

Some of his stoppages are baffling. Then there was the time he helped a barely conscious Cleverly back to his corner and let him fight another round.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Cent0089 »

referee onSalido - Lomachenko fight was one of the worst ive ever seen
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Undefeated49-0 »

You left out Joe Cortez, he is the worst referee.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by crusader »

IJL is the worst I recall seeing for stoppages; Cole probably the worst overall of those on the list.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by hurricanemitch14 »

Best imo is Harvey Dock.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by gilgamesh »

crusader wrote:IJL is the worst I recall seeing for stoppages; Cole probably the worst overall of those on the list.
Yep. Terry O' Connor is bad too.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by gilgamesh »

Who are the people that voted for Steve Smoger? Smoger is the best referee in the sport, and has been for a long time.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Lancenix »

Cent0089 wrote:referee onSalido - Lomachenko fight was one of the worst ive ever seen
Man you are not lying. That was criminal and sickening to boxing.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Lancenix »

gilgamesh wrote:Who are the people that voted for Steve Smoger? Smoger is the best referee in the sport, and has been for a long time.
Smoger sure lets the guys fight. I think some people feel that he allows too much holding and does not take away points when he needs to. Smoger did have that Lou Saverese knockdown moment which was such bias on his part and so puzzling that I believe he was sanctioned for it.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Ricky_ »

Undefeated49-0 wrote:You left out Joe Cortez, he is the worst referee.

Cortez is retired.

The worst ref is without doubt, Ian John-Lewis;



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I heard he's also the worst poster Boxrec has ever had...
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by caldo2025 »

Cole & Baylis stink but there's only one Ref that makes me jump off my recliner yelling at the top of my lungs and that's Jack Reiss. This guy thinks everyone has come to see him. He'll step in the middle of great action with one of his tongue lashings just to get it on TV and be the show. He loves to do this whenever the action gets hot too and totally kills these fights. He did this in the last 30 seconds of a fight recently and completely squashed the toe to toe action to end the fight. Can't remember who but i've had it with that dink.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Loki »

I have a winner - Alfredo Garcia Perez. Watch the Danny Williams v Airich fight. End of discussion.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Tomasino »

Ricky_ wrote:
Undefeated49-0 wrote:You left out Joe Cortez, he is the worst referee.

Cortez is retired.

The worst ref is without doubt, Ian John-Lewis;



Image


I heard he's also the worst poster Boxrec has ever had...

He's a handsome bastard though :lol:
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by cletomex »

Cole is the worst for me.

And Steve Willis is fornicating awesome
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by cletomex »

Any mention of Joe Cortez?







lol
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Undefeated49-0 »

cletomex wrote:Any mention of Joe Cortez?







lol
I did mention him but they gave him a pass because he's retired but I remember how Cortez was so afraid of Don King that he refused to wave off the BHop vs Trinidad KO fight until he looked over at Don King to make sure it was ok for him to do so despite PaPa Trinidad already being in the ring and waving the towel holding his son up.

Go to the 1: 16 mark or so and watch how he looks over at Don before finally waving it off. This is one of the reasons why I say he was the worse Ref in the business.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAdJ2XzP4Ns
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Lancenix »

caldo2025 wrote:Cole & Baylis stink but there's only one Ref that makes me jump off my recliner yelling at the top of my lungs and that's Jack Reiss. This guy thinks everyone has come to see him. He'll step in the middle of great action with one of his tongue lashings just to get it on TV and be the show. He loves to do this whenever the action gets hot too and totally kills these fights. He did this in the last 30 seconds of a fight recently and completely squashed the toe to toe action to end the fight. Can't remember who but i've had it with that dink.
Right on man. Jack Reiss is a weirdo. I cringe when I see him reffing a fight.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Lancenix »

Loki wrote:I have a winner - Alfredo Garcia Perez. Watch the Danny Williams v Airich fight. End of discussion.
That was crazy!! Is that the fight where the ref took like 7 points from Williams and then Williams knocked the dude out?
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Lancenix »

I will also say that Eddie Cotton's refereeing of the Tyson Lewis fight was very dubious. He kept warning Lewis for basically beating the shit out of Tyson.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by crusader »

Another two (un)worthy candidates are Manfred Kuechler (ludicrously DQing Cisse Salif against Petkovic and Mathis against Hammer to save the house fighters from stoppage defeats) and whoever that guy is who tried to DQ Bakhtov in the Kretschmann rematch.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Lancenix »

Joe Cortez also robbed Melrick Taylor against JC Chavez. That was a robbery and a straight cheating.
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Re: Who is boxing's worst referee?

Post by Undefeated49-0 »

Lancenix wrote:Joe Cortez also robbed Melrick Taylor against JC Chavez. That was a robbery and a straight cheating.
That wasn't Cortez that referred that one, it was Richard Steele.
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